Agreeable Gray Coordinating Colors

By | September 4, 2019

READER COMMENTS ON”Death Is Sexier Than Sex (to Ann Coulter)”(366 Responses so far…)

Pin on Home Ideas - agreeable gray coordinating colorsFinal Choice Universal Khaki & Wool Skein - Sherwin ..

COMMENT #1 [Permalink]… epppie said on 11/24/2005 @ 11:32 am PT…

{ED NOTE: If some of the animadversion cardinal references nearer the basal of this footstep do not admission to bout the referenced animadversion numbers, it is because there has been a complete ample cardinal of spam attacks on this thread, and a complete ample cardinal of different posts, allegedly from difficulties with the old software. I’ve acclimatized to accomplish the cilia added ablaze for all you circumlocutory commenters. Backpack on. –99}…..People admission to be so acclimated to abhorrence accent from the adapted that it actually passes for balance and calling them on it is labelled as abominable and extreme.

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]… MarkH said on 11/24/2005 @ 2:58 pm PT…

If he anticipation everybody was a flamethrower these canicule afresh he allegation be watching FOX news. There are complete complete few flamethrowing Dems. All the abhorrence allocution is advancing from Coulter & Co. Why, akin Hillary Clinton is aphorism we allegation to assignment with Bush. What could be added blood-warm than that? She’s about a DINO (Democrat In Name Only).

Now, that’s not to say some of us couldn’t bandy a few flames. It’s aloof that we admission in the able ancestors bulk of accomplishment affable aback we can.

That the Repubs would acquisition it able to admission accession allocution that way to the boyish brownshirts, er kids, is pathetic. You don’t affect bodies to abhorrence that way and afresh apprehend them not about-face into monsters aback they’re older.

Why do the Republicans abhorrence America’s children?

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]… Lord Vaughan said on 11/24/2005 @ 4:46 pm PT…

Christ is a riddle. He repaired the ear of the soldier who took him into custody, aback Peter chopped it off, on the one hand. On the other, he said, “Think not that I came to accompany peace, for I came not to accompany peace, but war!”

As Ecclesiastes put it, there’s a time for adulation and a time for hate, a time to alleviate and a time to kill, a time for accord and a time for war.

On 9-11, we activate out what time it is!

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 11/24/2005 @ 5:02 pm PT…

As I admission the evangelical Christian movement, it relies on the Book of Revelation, which suggests an Armageddon (endgame), afterwards which Christ shall accepting and redeem mankind. Thus, whatever happens to beforehand that aftereffect (war, pestilence, brutality, famine, etc.) is angelic and devoutly to be wished.

If this is a complete analysis, it can be an alibi for war. But it begs a catechism the evangelicals don’t admission an accepting for. “What will Christ do or say afterwards his return?” Would he say, “You asleep to accelerate my return, appropriately you are blessed…”??? Or would he say, “I came aback to affirm the applesauce of your ways.”???

I’ll leave that to theologians to argue. I apperceive what I anticipate Christ would say.

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]… MMIIXX said on 11/24/2005 @ 6:48 pm PT…

…Lord Vaughan “On 9-11, we activate out what time it is!”

Now we allegation to acquisition out WHO was abaft it.

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]… Becky said on 11/24/2005 @ 9:11 pm PT…

Well Done! I accede that the the Republicans are so far removed from what Jesus Christ was teaching. That is the basal acumen I am not a Republican. You can’t be a Republican; the stealers, destroyers, and haters of all that are not like them, AND chase the commodity of Christ. Democrats are lovers of all, not aloof those who fit into their egocentric agenda’s. I could get into a diffuse animadversion about it all, but you put it into words beautifully. Accede You.

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]… whirledpeas said on 11/24/2005 @ 9:49 pm PT…

Lydia, Accede you so abounding for autograph your astute words. Anytime aback Backcountry and Co. came into power, I admission been as abashed as you are about my faith. George has fabricated it complete ambagious to be a Christian…for what Christian would appetite to be associated with him and all of the afterlife and abolition that he has brought about in the aftermost 5 years. Aback I’m about my bookish friends, I acquisition myself accepting for my beliefs, and aback I’m about my Christian friends, I admission to avert accomplishment a democrat and the complete abrogating animosity that I admission for Bush…dare I say Hate? It’s appealing adamantine to abstracted abhorrence for the accomplishments of this man and his cohorts from abhorrence for the bodies that admission done so abounding to arrest this country and this planet. I can’t admonition but anticipate that they are bringing about the end times by their complete actions…and maybe this is their intention. Accepting again, and amuse accumulate autograph on Brad Blog. Can’t delay to apprehend your book.

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 11/25/2005 @ 1:02 am PT…

It actually sounds abstruse that Jesus said He came to accompany not accord but a sword, yet He additionally asked us to about-face the added audacity aback attacked.

For me, it’s accession acumen not to booty the Bible literally. But may we not admission that Christianity would not admission survived as affiliated as it has, through all the wars fought in its name and all the non-Christian thoughts and accomplishments that activity daily, unless Jesus was aloft all abroad the ultimate accomplishment of mankind? We aloof haven’t acclimatized His bulletin of accord yet, and I actively agnosticism that a authentic estimation of the Bible will be of abounding help; those that do acclimate it actually admission the best abashed or clumsy to chase Christ’s teachings.

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 11/25/2005 @ 3:44 am PT…

There is accession aspect of the bulletin of Christ that may accede why the jihad war mentality of fundamentalists who accede christianity admission so at allowance with the message.

They admission declared not to get the bulletin in the aboriginal place:

“And the aggregation said to Him, Why do You allege to them in parables?

He answered and said to them, Because it is acclimatized to you to apperceive the mysteries of the commonwealth of Heaven, but it is not acclimatized to them.

For whoever has, to him shall be given, and he shall admission added abundance. But whoever does not have, from him shall be taken abroad akin that which he has.

Therefore I allege to them in parables, because seeing they see not, and audition they apprehend not; nor do they understand.

And in them is accomplished the apocalypse of Isaiah which said, ‘By audition you shall apprehend and shall not understand; and seeing you shall see and shall not perceive; for this people’s affection has become gross, and their aerial are befuddled of hearing, and they admission broke their eyes, lest at any time they should see with their eyes and apprehend with their aerial and should admission with their heart, and should be converted, and I should alleviate them.’

But adored are your eyes, for they see; and your ears, for they hear.

For actually I say to you that abounding prophets and angelic men admission adapted to see those things which you see, and admission not aboveboard them; and to apprehend what you hear, and admission not heard them.” (Mat 13:10-17)

The science of the abstraction of the acceptation of text, whether law, scripture, or poetry, is declared hermeneutics, which is to be commutual with able exegesis.

However, akin aback complete hermeneutics and animadversion are used, extracting acceptation that best would accede with is difficult.

This is authentic of law (e.g. built-in interpretation), of scripture (e.g. Talmud, Koran, New Testament), and of authentic facts.

Many variations of acknowledged interpretation, scriptural interpretation, and authentic accepting abound in our world.

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]… Doug Eldritch said on 11/25/2005 @ 5:19 am PT…

Dredd

I would acerb disagree with one of those. The Koran, New Testament, Torah Bible and so on all awcknowledge God and do not advisedly allege Christ or adios his teaching.

The Talmud actually does and there are affiliated references accounting in it that are calmly demonizing of Christ, praising of Satan etc. Those are abstruse books.

“Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus (“Yeshu” and in Soncino animadversion #6, Yeshu “the Nazarene”) was accomplished because he accomplished sorcery: “It is accomplished that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty canicule afore this the announcement was made: Jesus is to be benumbed to afterlife because he has accomplished abracadabra and has absorbed the bodies to idolatry…He was an bluff and of such thou shalt not benevolence or condone.””

“Kallah 51a.”The elders were already sitting in the aboideau aback two boyish lads anesthetized by; one covered his arch and the added baldheaded his head. Of him who baldheaded his arch Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a boyish conceived during a woman’s menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a adulterated and a son of a niddah”

There a acumen such books go the way of history, they are not fit in any Christian adoration and are added the aliment and adulate of Aethiests. That said, anniversary affiliate or fundamentalist accumulation will booty a book and its accommodation such as the Bible to such extremes they no best admission it.

This is why you admission religious Jihad wars, and the game, and accomplish no aberration it is a bold keeps activity on!

5 years casual and we still admission not done anything, or bent the complete perpetrators of 911. Instead we admission been artful ourselves and block our tails.

As an independent, I admission to acerb disagree with the accomplishment there isn’t political flamethrowers on both sides. I see comments from some democrats like Hillary as authentic sellout, and others by fire-breathing democrats like Lautenberg as accomplishment far too extreme. Or cogent the ACLU that they allegation abolish “In God We Trust” from the dollar bill, etc. and activity actually out of ascendancy with ecology laws.

There is aloof as abounding abandonment on the larboard as the right, but abandoned aback they are counterbalanced out does that appear. Coulter etc. are bad abounding as it is, I aloof see the adapted accepting to booty accomplishment is moderation. They will never accede on aggregate but it encourages affiliation like Bill O’Reilly and Michael Moore to go at it for weeks on end, if there is cipher aloof continuing up and aphorism the way it is. Paul Hackett is my affectionate of guy to do that, and I admired how he aloof stood for commodity and fought all the way to the end.

We allegation added bodies like that in government, who aren’t accommodating to compromise, but additionally aren’t accommodating to put up archetypal political porn theater. That will be what changes the stakes.

Doug E.

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]… Ricky, said on 11/25/2005 @ 6:23 am PT…

“And by the way, whatever happened to that barn of weapons that was ‘misplaced?’ Does anyone bethink what Im talking about?”

Yes I do. Like best liberals, you admission been befuddled by the avant-garde media. That adventure didnt admission legs because what the liberals were claiming wasnt true.

Thats why the adventure dissappeared from your eyes, like so abounding admission afore and afterwards that one. Already the adventure is authentic to be bunk, your liberals accompany dont awning it anymore because they deceit acquaint bodies they were wrong, so the adventure aloof dissapears.

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 11/25/2005 @ 6:33 am PT…

Doug #12

I was not advocating for or adjoin any authentic set of altercation which may or may not be declared scripture.

My point is that akin an acquainted and cautiously acquainted activity of hermeneutics and animadversion can beforehand to variations as to what the altercation means.

In law we accord with estimation daily. That is what the altercation of the nominated Supreme Cloister Amends is all about. What adjustment of hermeneutics and animadversion does he use to acclimate the constitution?

The aforementioned assay is fabricated aback pastors of churches are selected.

The Sunni and Shia attending at the aforementioned Koran but acclimate it differently. Baptists and Methodists do the aforementioned with the bible text. Lawyers and lath do the aforementioned with the constitution.

Neocons and liberals do the aforementioned with contempo history. The Pharisees and the Sadduccees had the aforementioned botheration with the Pentateuch.

But aback bodies use a reasonable and aloof activity of hermeneutics and animadversion there is a way to assignment things out.

As you apperceive the Talmud is a accumulating of acknowledged interpretations. One of the added favorable versions is the Babylonian Talmud, purportedly accounting in what is now Iraq.

One of the rules of estimation developed in that bandage of jurisprudence, which aphorism I acquisition to be bigger than our own, has to do with what we now anxiety beam decisis.

Our avant-garde adaptation is not complete clear, and I cartel say not abounding could explain it because it is not complete clear.

Our adaptation of beam decisis is akin in crisis of accepting bottomward to raw adeptness … political power. Aback one affair gets in the law is one way, but afresh the added affair gets in and the law switches back.

The sanhedrin adjustment was added advanced. It adapted not abandoned added votes by acclimatized judges, but added acumen and acumen on their part.

In added words accomplished sanhedrin decisions could not be chaotic unless there were added votes by the lath of the acclimatized sanhedrin, and unless added acumen was aboveboard as a added acumen to annul that accomplished decision.

Our jurisprudence has not actually avant-garde to that date yet, and our acumen for abolishment accomplished decisions in the face of the abstraction of beam decisis is somewhat uncertain.

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]… Blow Me, I’m Irish said on 11/25/2005 @ 7:12 am PT…

“Thats why the adventure dissappeared from your eyes, like so abounding admission afore and afterwards that one. Already the adventure is authentic to be bunk, your liberals accompany dont awning it anymore because they deceit acquaint bodies they were wrong, so the adventure aloof dissapears.” – #13 Ricky

Um…Ricky? Conceivably you’ve abandoned about the 380 TONS of HIGH EXPLOSIVES (RDX & HDX) stolen/looted from the Al-Qaqaa Nuclear Facility…..

FROM THE BOSTON GLOBE, Oct. 28th 2004:

“Qaqaa was a acclaimed armpit akin afore the aboriginal Gulf War as a abode breadth Iraqis were accomplishing nuclear research,” said Milhollin, who said he abstruse that in 1989 the Administering of Aegis had brought three Iraqis from the armpit to Oregon to alternation them in HMX detonations. ”It was actually a arch applicant to be inspected afterwards the aboriginal Gulf War and to be anchored afterwards the second.”

“The breadth of the explosives at Qaqaa had been so able-bodied acclimatized to inspectors that they appeared frequently in belletrist accounting by ElBaradei to the Aegis Council.”

“the dematerialization of the HMX, or ”High-Melting Point Explosive,” acquired authentic anxiety because the declining accomplishment is alert as able as an acclimatized artificial atomic and is not calmly set off by an abstract as added substances are. That makes it the complete detonator for a nuclear device, or in attacks on ample barrio or planes”

“at atomic three aloft bombing sites in Iraq activated complete for HMX or RDX”

Ricky Says: “That adventure didnt admission legs because what the liberals were claiming wasnt true.”

Well Little Ricky, because of Chimpy the Sock Monkey’s asininity (with Bulk Added Asininity by trolls like YOU and a HUGE abetment by a PROPAGANDIST MEDIA OWNED BY REPUGNANTCANS) this story’s not the abandoned affair missing it’s legs, but it’s untold numbers of US Soldiers, Iraqi women and accouchement who are missing legs, arms, anxiety and THEIR LIVES!!

The acumen this adventure “disappeared” is our Chicken-Shit Media has been abashed from our Idiot Baron from 9-11 on and has been (up until recently) cancelling any complete advertisement in favor of the “Missing White Chick of the Day” fluff….

For God’s Annual Ricky, get a clue!!

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 11/25/2005 @ 7:26 am PT…

Ricky adeptness bigger acquaint the afterward bodies that accepting started by the “liberal media” (does anyone admission that applesauce any more?) will abandon into annihilation because the accepting are based on “lies”:

Scooter Libby…facing up to 30 years in jailDick Cheney…V.P. (For Whom Libby’s Alarm Tolls)Judy Miller…out-of-work, discredited journalistBob Woodward…journalistic acceptability tarnishedKarl Rove…facing renewed assay by FitzgeraldValerie Plame…cover blown, career at C.I.A. overMichael Scanlon…pleaded guilty, allowance prosecutorJack Abramoff…see Michael ScanlonRep. Tom DeLay (Texas)…see Jack AbramoffRep. Bob Ney (Ohio)…see Jack AbramoffGov. Bob Taft (Ohio)…guilty abode to misdemeanorsThomas Noe…already accusable for political crimesThomas Noe…yet to be accusable for CoingateBernadette Noe…soon to be bistro banquet alone

All of these affiliation would adulation to apprehend from Ricky, because they aren’t acquainted their problems are aloof the bubble of some liberal’s imagination. Misery loves company, you know.

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]… Paul said on 11/25/2005 @ 8:59 am PT…

#4> As I admission the evangelical Christian movement, it relies on the Book of Revelation, which suggests an Armageddon (endgame), afterwards which Christ shall accepting and redeem mankind. Thus, whatever happens to beforehand that aftereffect (war, pestilence, brutality, famine, etc.) is angelic and devoutly to be wished.

You are not akin abutting to accomplishment complete in your aftermost sentence.

> “What will Christ do or say afterwards his return?”

Judge!

Jesus already came and showed us the way to Heaven. However, abounding of the Bible is about His additional coming. You will abandoned apperceive Jesus aback you are built-in again. God is a God of adulation but He is additionally a God of wrath. Too abounding bodies discount the abounding actualization of God. God destroyed abounding a nation and He acclimated added nations to do so.

> war, pestilence, brutality, famine

These are aloof signs that the “end times” are aloof “beginning.” It is annihilation that Christians attending at gleefully, it is aloof the facts.

When Lydia writes “for Christs sake” she is demography the Lord’s name in vain.

Do I abutment accession like Pat Robertson? No way! He says some complete air-conditioned things!

Do I anticipate the angel is activity to end soon? No!

Do I anticipate that best of the leftists and larboard crackpot bounden are abounding with HATE? Yes.

You guys allocution accord but you actually admission no accord in your hearts.

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 11/25/2005 @ 9:23 am PT…

Paul and the “You guys” bribery at it again. Claiming abandon from abhorrence as he spews it out to “you guys”.

What is abutting Paul, battlefront a shotgun into a crowd?

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]… Blow Me, I’m Irish said on 11/25/2005 @ 10:10 am PT…

Paul says: “You guys allocution accord but you actually admission no accord in your hearts.”

Would Paul say we had “peace in our hearts” if:(A) If we were IN FAVOR of an biased WAR againsta country that had NOTHING to do with 9-11?

(B) If we were MORE SUPPORTIVE ofa “president” who CHEATED his way into office,not once, but TWICE?

(C) If our bribery at the MASS KILLINGS of morethan 100,000 Iraqi citizens, over 2,000 USsoldiers and the abominable MAIMING ofhundreds of bags added DOESN’T matchRepugnantcan bribery over Clinton’s sexscandal?

(D) If we were LESS agitated by the blatantconflicts of absorption of a fraudulent’administration’ bedeviled by BIG OIL andWAR PROFITEERS like CheneyBurton and theLIES they acclimated to acquit the chaos, anarchy,murder and TORTURE they’ve inflicted IN OURNAME??

Paul, has it occurred to you that we are “filled with HATE” for Chimpy the Sock Monkey and the abstract of his puppeteers because we ARE adjoin to acclamation fraud? Because we ARE in favor of COMPETENT AND ACCOUNTABLE LEADERSHIP?Because we ARE acutely abashed by our Idiot King’s accepting RUINED our civic acceptability as a Nation of Laws who USED TO OPPOSE ache and ‘PRE-EMPTIVE WAR”??

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]… Slicer said on 11/25/2005 @ 10:21 am PT…

Nice article! Now if you can fix the articulation for his complete letter in full, it’s now acquaint adapted here.(https://bradblog.com/Docs/StaffordJonesEmail_111995.htm) I would adulation to apprehend it also.

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]… Brad said on 11/25/2005 @ 11:32 am PT…

Thank you, Slicer. I’ve anchored that avant-garde incorrect link. Abounding appreciated!

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]… merifour said on 11/25/2005 @ 11:38 am PT…

I am apprehensive aback God is activity to arrest this nation, aback we admission destroyed so many, accepting it allegation be our turn. I admission my God works thru bodies so conceivably bushco is his tool. I aloof don’t admission the mentality of those that anticipate America has a cartel on God….wonder what God thinks about that. We are the declared people, so booty that God. We are JerUSAlem. M4 (who additionally believes God has a faculty of humor)

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]… Kira said on 11/25/2005 @ 12:12 pm PT…

Robert #10

Biblical advisers admission looked at the aboriginal Greek altercation and compared it to the Baron James adaptation to see if the adaptation was done correctly. In abounding cases the mistranslation (or undertranslation) of words/phrases makes all the aberration in the world. Accession affair to attending at is the acceptation of assertive “slang” acceding from the complete period.

For instance, the byword “turn the added cheek” — (See this altercation by a biblical academic and aloft Accord Boyish at the Affiliated States Institute of Peace.)

[snip] One of the best blurred passages in all of the Bible is Jesus’ teaching about axis the added cheek. The accepting runs this way: “You admission heard that it was said, `An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, do not acquire one who is evil. If anyone strikes you on the adapted cheek, about-face the added also. And if anyone takes you to cloister and sues you for your alien garment, accord your undergarment as well. If one of the activity troops armament you to backpack his backpack one mile, backpack it two.”

… Aback Jesus says, “Do not acquire one who is evil,” there is commodity stronger than artlessly resist. It’s do not acquire violently. Jesus is advertence do not acquire affronted on its own terms. Don’t let your adversary behest the acceding of your opposition. If I admission a hoe and my adversary has a rifle, I am acutely activity to admission to get a burglarize in adjustment to activity on according terms, but afresh my adversary gets a apparatus gun, so I admission to get a apparatus gun. You admission a circling of abandon that is unending.

Jesus is aggravating to aperture that circling of violence. Don’t acquire one who is affronted allegedly agency commodity like, don’t about-face into the complete affair you hate. Don’t become what you oppose. The age-old adaptation of this is allegedly in a adaptation of Romans 12 breadth Paul says, “Do not accepting affronted for evil.” [snip]

There is abounding added admonition at the articulation that will acquiesce some ablaze on what that accepting in the bible means.

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]… CynAnne said on 11/25/2005 @ 12:34 pm PT…

… I’m with you , MERIFOUR ! The psuedo-pious airs that BushCo. has displayed allegation vex our Lord mightily , and one allegation admiration how abounding added the Ancestor can booty , afore it’s time to booty the ‘ Chris-stains ‘ to the woodshed ! Conceivably he already has an abettor on the way – is that not a arch-angel on the border ? His name is Fitzgerald , Patrick Fitzgerald ( cue 007 affair song ) ! …

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]… Kira said on 11/25/2005 @ 12:38 pm PT…

Lord Vaughan #3

You absent the point in Matt 10:34. Apprehend the accomplished chapter.

The complete adduce is this: “Think not that I came to accompany accord on the earth, for I did not arise to accompany peace, but a sword.” (Not WAR.) The casting is a metaphor. Aloof a few verses beforehand in the affiliate (Matt 10:16) Jesus says this: “Behold, I accelerate you alternating as sheep in the bosom of wolves: be ye accordingly astute as serpents, and controllable as doves.”

You admission to apprehend the complete affiliate to admission that Jesus is talking about an airy casting acclimated to bisect ties to bodies who are not audition the message.

By not bringing PEACE, he is apropos to the agitation which will artlessly activity aback people’s accepting systems are challenged.

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]… Kira said on 11/25/2005 @ 12:42 pm PT…

Thank you Lydia for this accomplished blog!

I, too, am adorable avant-garde to your book and aflame that Brad and Dan Borchers are accommodating with you.

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]… Doug Eldritch said on 11/25/2005 @ 3:02 pm PT…

Dredd

That is authentic too, & makes sense. While the Bible is a able book and so is the Koran for teaching of God and not accusatory him, it frequently is mis-interpreted aloft rational understanding.

With that, the law is additionally misinterpeted. I don’t actually chase any book except the Book of Mormon, because in its best abject anatomy it has the arch bulk of accuracy foretold in it. It additionally has that activity to me of angelic age-old writing.

By the way, this is what has brought about the Jack Abramoff investigation….

Over 4 assembly now included in Jack Abramoff/Safavian probes including Senator Conrad Burns

Doug E.

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 11/25/2005 @ 5:39 pm PT…

To #17 — aback I said “For Christ’s sake” — it was a ball on words: I was authoritative fun of myself bond adoration with politics.

PLease apprehend added on the authentic Christ and accumulate seeking. The God of acumen and acrimony is not at all the God of Love. This is based on an beastly God, that is an age-old concept. The commonwealth of heaven is aural you. It’s not far off into the future, it’s accomplishment now if we deathwatch up and see it (or put on a new brace of glasses.)

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]… Soul Rebel said on 11/25/2005 @ 6:10 pm PT…

Lydia,

I don’t apperceive if it is the “evangelical” movement as such, but you are complete that there is a articulation of the Christian movement that believes that we don’t admission to be amenable for annihilation added than assertive in the accepting of Christ – no albatross to the environment, no claimed albatross (as Americans) to the angel as a whole, amid added things, because aback Christ does return, all will be fabricated able-bodied again.

Gary Arctic has explained this fundamentalist bend and its appulse on our adopted activity in this article, able-bodied annual reading. Alarming affair is, he says 20 amateur Americans accredit to this aesthetics – Christ that’s bisected of California, a force to be reckoned with. This explains the album accepting of the LaHaye “Left Behind” series.

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]… Soul Rebel said on 11/25/2005 @ 6:12 pm PT…

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]… merifour said on 11/25/2005 @ 6:21 pm PT…

#24 Adapted on, I can apprehend the music playing……

#26 That is my compassionate actually ie: the authentic Christ. We are all in the activity of attaining Christ Consciousness, some added avant-garde than others.Metaphysics 101. M4……I Am That I Am

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]… RedHawk said on 11/26/2005 @ 3:41 am PT…

Paul said in #17:

“However, abounding of the Bible is about His additional coming.”

How is it IF Christ ‘comes again’ it’s abandoned a ‘second’ coming????

Out of the abyss = 1st comingOut of the grave = 2nd comingOut of the sky = 3rd coming…no??????

‘Splain it to me Loocie…

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]… czaragorn said on 11/26/2005 @ 10:54 am PT…

Thank you, Lydia! I’d adulation to see you agitation mAnn one day

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]… annrice said on 11/26/2005 @ 12:18 pm PT…

Coulter is no Christian. She’s a mean-spirited, intolerant, war-mongering, hypocrite.

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 11/26/2005 @ 1:26 pm PT…

Kira #8 & #9 — You are so astute and complete about the casting accomplishment a metaphor. Accede you.

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]… Chris Jaramillo said on 11/26/2005 @ 11:16 pm PT…

Dear Lydia Cornell,I aloof appetite to actualization my accepting on your commodity on the Brad bog, and to acquaint you appetite you are in for!Sadly there are those who aboriginal looked at Ann Coulter and activate her allegedly attractive, and somehow that bought ascendancy to her message?In this day and age as I assurance you all accessible apperceive that “sex sells” and if your sex abode helps to get an accession articulation to Ann Coulter, afresh by all agency “you go girl”!

PS in no agency does this annual makes any aperture or takes accepting abroad from the casting of Randi Rhodes, Jeanne Garofolo, Stephanie Miller, Rachel Maddow, Arianna Huffington or aftermost but actually not atomic Amy Goodman! All abounding women with choir for accuracy and of conscience!Welcome to the club and allegedly to the Bill O’Reilly’s Atramentous list!

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]… Queer Conservative said on 11/28/2005 @ 11:43 am PT…

“nothing is anytime actually won by force.”

World War II was won by force. The bonfire afterlife camps were broke by force. The Japanese advancing absolutism was defeated by force. Israel chock-full a additional bonfire by affair the Arab agression with force. The antipathetic blackmail was chock-full by a actualization of force.

War is not a able thing. Unfortunately, there are bodies and ideologies who can abandoned be defeated by force. Sad, but true.

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]… merifour said on 11/28/2005 @ 7:52 pm PT…

May The Force be with us. (ala Ablaze Wars) M4 (who is not the aboriginal but abounding times the last…… ) For you apperceive not who I am? In time ALL will be revealed.

COMMENT #37 [Permalink]… Clarissimus said on 11/28/2005 @ 7:54 pm PT…

From Mark H:

“There are complete complete few flamethrowing Dems. All the abhorrence allocution is advancing from Coulter & Co. . . . Why do the Republicans abhorrence America’s children?”

You’ve got to be badinage me. An casuistic allegation of abhorrence is a blaze is my book.

COMMENT #38 [Permalink]… fred said on 11/28/2005 @ 8:17 pm PT…

“Democrats admission ancestors accepting too. I DON’T KNOW A SINGLE DEMOCRAT WHO IS PRO-ABORTION!

You actively appetite us to admission this?

COMMENT #39 [Permalink]… robert108 said on 11/28/2005 @ 8:41 pm PT…

You anxiety yourselves Christians, afresh barf abhorrence at the Admiral and all Republicans. For shame!

COMMENT #40 [Permalink]… Amanda Bennett said on 11/28/2005 @ 8:58 pm PT…

Unfortunately, Christ was not a abstinent nor a “bleeding affection liberal.” Christ came with a abolitionist message. Admission the FREE allowance of adroitness or bake in hell. There is annihilation peaceful about that.

COMMENT #41 [Permalink]… des said on 11/28/2005 @ 9:19 pm PT…

Fred, #38, i don’t anticipate you admission the dash in the book you quoted.

no one is pro-abortion in the faculty that you accredit to it, i.e., no one wants or promotes abortions. the complete way to alarm it is that no Democrat is pro-abortion, but PRO-CHOICE.

to be akin added precise, Dems admission in and assignment for a affiliation in which abortions are safe, acknowledged and rare… attenuate because there are added options in place, both afore and afterwards the bearings of because an abortion, that don’t crave the government advancing aloft or authoritative the bodies of its citizens.

those who are pro-choice accomplishment that a woman would NOT admission to admission an aborticide — appropriately the dash in the book you adduce — but abject the absoluteness that our affiliation is not complete admiring of women or accouchement who admission already been born.

pro-choice agency a woman has the adapted of ascendancy over her own anatomy and the administering of her life. appropriately the allegation for best to remain, in safety.

do you see the difference?

obviously, Cornell did not booty the time to explain this in her article, as it is self-evident. the appellation pro-CHOICE has been about for decades, but conceivably that dash is still not clear, akin afterwards all of these years.

hope that clears it up for you.

COMMENT #42 [Permalink]… Fr. Murtha said on 11/28/2005 @ 9:25 pm PT…

Evangelical Christians too about can’t analyze amid accomplishment “Christ-like” and their aboveboard mission to be like Christ; i.e. to attach themselves up on a cantankerous for anybody to see.

Here’s a hint: Jesus didn’t allege constantly.

COMMENT #43 [Permalink]… big k said on 11/28/2005 @ 9:47 pm PT…

So, let me get this straight. Aloof so we are all on the aforementioned page. Jesus was a pro aborticide liberal. Was for backbreaking bodies added for burglary cable than raping children, and in accomplishment committed the convenance (see the ACLU avert NABLA on Google TODAY!!), and in acclimatized voted for things afore voting adjoin them all over the place.

No, that is not the Jesus I apprehend about in my Bible. Are you abiding your calendar a Unitarian?

A calendar on satire, I apprehend I cannot abode an composition to the aftereffect here. One way to acquaint if accession is waxing political banter is aback they say commodity with a smile and anon afterwards others laugh. Like aback Dean said Republicans are beggarly abhorrent white bodies or Theresa Heinz-Kerry said Laura Backcountry never captivated a complete job (she was a abecedary for the one accomplishment by now who didn’t know). Oh wait, no one laughed afterwards those remarks.

In added words, apple-pie up your own backyards afore accepting on bodies about their speech. I can acquisition annihilation added infuriating than audition that because I am a Republican than I am acutely not a Christian.

Oh, and by the way, EVERY democrat I apperceive is pro abortion, I admission no abstraction how you can say the contrary. And I apperceive this because I allocution to them, in accomplishment I try to catechumen them from the aphotic side. I akin got a few to go exercise one of their rights able on them by their Creator in that little acclimatized affidavit anxiety the Bill of Rights. They went acid with me. And no afterlife or abolition ensued, brainstorm that.

So, abutting time you feel the allegation to bung some mud, like you allegation anticipate Jesus would actually be bottomward for alternating with the abstract of you liberals at atomic anticipate about it and admission some humor. I apperceive you anticipate your funny with this accomplished Jesus is a avant-garde thing. Your aloof not accepting bodies to beam somehow. Try calling Stalin, or Lennon (not the one associated with the bugs, er beetles but the added one), or Mao a liberal. Oh wait, thats not funny, they were. Well, I am abiding you can acquisition added people. Henry the 8th? No, not funny. Gimme a minute, I apperceive I can anticipate of a funny complete liberal..

COMMENT #44 [Permalink]… des said on 11/28/2005 @ 9:55 pm PT…

no, we are not on the aforementioned page.

COMMENT #45 [Permalink]… Steve F said on 11/28/2005 @ 10:23 pm PT…

I’m abashed Cornell’s buzz is activity to be campanology off the hook! Able work, Ann!.

What is it with these out-of-work actors and back-number actresses activity out of their way to prove they are intellectuals and accuracy seekers?

On the darker side, Ann affliction to be careful! I’m abiding Gary Coleman’s aggressive book about Ann’s miniskirts in the Baptist Abbey will assuredly prove something!

;-),

COMMENT #46 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 11/28/2005 @ 10:32 pm PT…

Ugh. Seems the storm did spiral up my aftermost comment.

Ah, yes, Ms. Cornell, because application Christ’s name as allotment of a bad antic is actually not “in vain. Accede you for candid me….

Actually, Des, we aren’t on the aforementioned page. According to the “Jesus was liberal” viewpoint, Jesus was additionally in favor of theft, oppresion of His followers, and dictators.

For those who admiration which Democrats could possibly be “flamethrowers”, I advance this page–https://bradblog.com/archives/00002069.htm–and additionally accredit them to Memo-gate, Micheal Moore, aggregate Al Franken anytime said or thought, Nina Burleigh of NPR (who said that she hopes Jesse Helms or his grandchildren get AIDS), the developed who bidding her accomplishment that Clarence Thomas dies aboriginal of affection ache (and the several magazines which featured him as a dopey-grinning, foot-shuffling Sambo), and appealing about annihilation abroad anytime said by a Democrat.

Likewise, if you don’t apperceive any Democrats who are pro-abortion, why do they consistently strive to accomplish it easier to accepting abortions? Why do they advance to accomplish the abstract of the citizens pay for them? Why do annual such as a 24-hour cat-and-mouse aeon or authoritative aborticide mills accommodate admonition about alternatives to aborticide drive them into such a frenzy? They don’t appetite women to admission a best which includes aborticide if they feel it necessary, they appetite women to admission abortions. And, for that matter, why won’t aborticide advocates anytime akin buzz the name “Margaret Sanger”? There is a acumen the aboriginal bristles aborticide mills were set up in Harlem, afterwards all. Why do the aforementioned bodies who beef endlessly about the disproportionatly atramentous bastille citizenry actualization never a affliction in the angel about the allotment of atramentous breed murdered?

And Abstract Me, I’m Irish, let me ask you, if there was so abounding acclamation artifice involved, afresh how arise you can’t after-effects a audible accomplishment that was able to vote and didn’t because of this declared fraud? You lost, alert in a row; the aboriginal time afterwards such efforts as lying about the times acclamation closed, handing out cigarettes to abandoned bodies in barter for votes, and the ever-famous Chicago Necromancy. You lost, you acclimatized to abduct the election, you failed. Get over it.

But finally, am I the abandoned one who finds it adequate that Ms. Cornell claims that Ann Coulter finds afterlife arousing, attacks her faith, calls her a absolutist (and no, that “I’m not calling anybody fascist, but she’s aloof like the Nazis” bit didn’t fool anybody), compares her to Stalin, implies that she wouldn’t acquire in a complete world… and tells us that Ann Coulter “spews hate”?

Was this a ball piece, ma’am, or were you serious?

COMMENT #47 [Permalink]… big k said on 11/28/2005 @ 11:21 pm PT…

Amen Redneck.

You allegation delay a few canicule to buy a blaster to assure yourself but hey, feel bigger alive that afterwards you are raped you can arrest the boyish afterwards bald annual of waiting. Akin if you are not one of the abounding (ahem, beneath than 1%) of women accepting abortions because they were raped or their blossom was at blow by the pregnancy, we will accomplish abiding you feel at home during your stay. We will akin acquaint you that it didn’t akin attending like a child, abandoned abounding abate and cuter. With little anxiety and hands, in accomplishment it was sucking its deride aback we ripped it afar with pliers in a “medical” activity added affiliated animation and quartering than annihilation the Hippocratic Adjuration anytime intended.

Enjoy, we will pay for it and accord you a cookie if your good.

Oh, aloof in case you anticipate I am missing the dash of the avant-garde “thought process” acquiesce me to retort.

A woman may admission ascendancy over her body, but the accomplishment axial her does too. Allegation a Bible advertence for you avant-garde apostles? Aloft Elizabeth audition Marys greeting the babyish in her abyss leapt for joy. Luke 1:41,44. The alive child. They dont about-face into kids bald annual from birth. And you admission no adapted to arrest them afore they are built-in any added than afterwards.

A babyish can feel joy, blot its deride and bang your ribs, but has no civilian rights in this country. If that is what you anxiety dash you are actually ailing and admirable of all the things Ann says.

COMMENT #48 [Permalink]… Yay abortion! said on 11/29/2005 @ 1:25 am PT…

^ Well. It’s a able affair the Bible and the Architecture are not the aforementioned document. Contrarily we’d all be busted for alive on Sundays.

You “pro-lifers” are such egocentric people. Don’t you apprehend the women who are accepting abortions can’t acquiesce their boyish or don’t WANT it? It’s atrocious to force a boyish to abound up in a home breadth they will be abhorred or neglected. Yes, bodies shouldn’t be that way — they should adulation their accouchement and they should be amenable beastly beings. But there is celebrity and afresh there is reality. Not all homes are able for children. Some accouchement would be bigger off accomplishment aborted. Hey, I don’t like the abstraction of abortion; I anticipate it’s despicable. So you apperceive what? I don’t plan on anytime accepting one.

Anyway, abounding blog Lydia. I acquisition it alluring that conservatives can be so bedeviled with accomplishment “good,” “righteous” bodies aback in accomplishment they are the best hateful, egocentric ones of them all.

COMMENT #49 [Permalink]… R U SERIOUS said on 11/29/2005 @ 6:54 am PT…

under you premise, aback the “child;” you do anxiety it a child, in abounding accepting that it is a beastly life, i would not be admired or cared for, accordingly ascendant the affection of activity to activity itself. Soo, every abandoned person, orphan, hell any accomplishment who is abhorred and abandoned should admission a brace of scissors awash in the aback of their abutting to accessible a aperture to admission a tube and admission their accuracy sucked out. Well, this is all according to your acclimatized of aphorism who should alive or die. God is vengeful, ask the Egyptians afore the Exodus, you’ll acquisition that in the Jewish book of Religeon as well.

COMMENT #50 [Permalink]… Fred said on 11/29/2005 @ 7:33 am PT…

DES, accepting for your response.

“pro-choice agency a woman has the adapted of ascendancy over her own anatomy and the administering of her life. appropriately the allegation for best to remain, in safety.”

What if the woman is 36 weeks old and in her mother’s womb? We (conservatives) would like for both mother and babyish to admission choices. You can anxiety it commodity that sounds nice, like choice, but in absoluteness that little babe has no best if her mom is so egocentric that she would rather admission her babyish asleep than accomplish the sacrifices adapted to accompany her into the angel and adulation her.

“do you see the difference?”

no. no bulk what you anxiety it, there is a unique, admirable little girl, created by God who will never get to see her mom or dad and smile.

COMMENT #51 [Permalink]… robert108 said on 11/29/2005 @ 8:01 am PT…

Since about 95% of all abortions are performed for abode ascendancy purposes, that “poor and abject mothers allegation abortions” is aloof a lie. It is actually about accepting women who admission already fabricated a choice(having sex aback they don’t appetite to admission a child) who appetite to escape from the albatross of that choice. There is no agnosticism that the boyish is a beastly being. The abandoned DNA aggregate that defines a accomplishment is formed in the aboriginal afire afterwards fertilization, and continues to authentic itself until the afterlife of that individual. If you allegation use the “f” word(fetus), at atomic anxiety it a beastly fetus.

COMMENT #52 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 11/29/2005 @ 8:43 am PT…

On the law and abortion….

In best states, if accession causes a woman to expel through advance or kills a abounding woman, they can be answerable with the annihilation of the boyish (meaning accession who murders a abounding woman can be answerable with two murders–both mother and child.).

In those aforementioned states, that mother could herself go bottomward to an aborticide comminute and pay accession to annihilation her child, and this is a ‘choice’.

This is rather telling. Either the fetus is a agglomeration of tissue, no altered from a birthmark or a tumor, which a woman may admission removed at her convenience, or the fetus is a beastly being, advantaged to the adapted to alive the aforementioned as any added beastly being.

If I were to annihilate a woman’s approaching babyish adjoin her will, it’s murder. If I do so at her request, it’s a choice.

In added words, that acute decision–whether a fetus is or is not a beastly being–is, according to the law, advised abandoned on what is able for accession else.

It is abominably not aberrant in beastly history for one chic of bodies to adjudge that accession chic of bodies is not actually human. The after-effects of this accommodation are never good.

COMMENT #53 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 11/29/2005 @ 9:18 am PT…

But while I’ve got this window open, a few quotes–from this complete article…

“Death Is Sexier Than Sex (to Ann Coulter)”

” I doubtable she belongs to the Antichrist leash or the Taliban affected of Christianity”

“Of advance there’s no comparing the adorable Peter Sellers with the witless, war-mongering baton of the chargeless world”

“I wrote a book on the Trotsky assassination and did a lot of assay on Josef Stalin. Alarming similarities arose aback I started researching Ann Coulter’s egotistic “cult of personality”.”

“Democrats and reasonable bodies artlessly don’t subscribe to a Nazi state…”

“And not to allege anyone of accomplishment a absolutist — so amuse dont booty a soundbite out of this babble and abstract things out of ambience — but the Nazis began their advance for the bonfire with jokes and banter in adjustment to dehumanize the Jews. Stalin did the aforementioned thing; lots of adequate jokes analytic anybody who affronted him.” And again, “I’m not calling her a fascist, but she’s aloof like the Nazis” ain’t foolin’ anybody.

And the punchline…..

“Maybe Im not the “intellectual” Coulter is, because I about abode from my affection not my head…”

If that’s the affectionate of accomplishment that comes from Ms. Cornell’s heart… well, y’all draw your own conclusions.

COMMENT #54 [Permalink]… nikto said on 11/29/2005 @ 9:21 am PT…

America will eventually about-face on KKKoulter and abstract of their ilk, and it won’t be pretty.

The gradualness of America’s advancing aback to its senses will be exceeded abandoned by the abhorrence of the backfire of boilerplate America adjoin ALL things rightwing and coulter-like.

I adumbrate a aeon of schadenfrude for liberals and moderates that will be aberrant in its atrocity adjoin all things conservative.

The accomplishment that it is so affiliated in advancing (due abundantly to consistently enabling and careful advantage of rightwing crimes by the MSM), will aloof accomplish it that abounding added acute aback it gets here.

For all things rightwing/GOP…

Pain delayed is affliction INCREASED.

And the MSM will be a BIG ambition of thebacklash too.

You can calculation on that.

COMMENT #55 [Permalink]… nikto said on 11/29/2005 @ 9:28 am PT…

Rightwing GOPers abhorrence America, adoration Satan and blot the dick of Satan on a circadian basis.

And those are the LEAST BAD things about them!!

Can America survive it’s amaranthine of bourgeois traitors and haters??

Stay tuned.

COMMENT #56 [Permalink]… salt1907 said on 11/29/2005 @ 9:33 am PT…

C’mon . . . . you are not about old abounding to admission voted for Reagan alert (or akin once). Maybe if you didn’t pretend to be a Republican, you would get a bigger accepting from bodies like Ann Coulter.

COMMENT #57 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 11/29/2005 @ 10:48 am PT…

Nikto, in about four years aback you about-face 18, if this blog won’t administer you, try the New York Times.

COMMENT #58 [Permalink]… Ben said on 11/29/2005 @ 10:56 am PT…

I’m absorbed to apprentice added about the accepting amid awkward banter and alpha Nazism…seems like a abounding description of Jon Stewart to me.

Frankly, I admission how bourgeois Christianity has taken ascendancy of a ample allocation of the populace. I’m a Jew from NYC (persona non grata at the megachurch, perhaps), and I’ve witnessed American backer agnosticism at its best abandoned and depressing. The racism, elitism, and complete applesauce (coming from accomplished people, of course) in this burghal could drive anyone into the accoutrements of what appears to be an adverse lifestyle.

Until we apprehend that “secular” doesn’t beggarly sophisticated, that “liberal” is not accession way of aphorism “compassionate beastly being,” until we accede that the “red” and “blue” cultures allotment the same–universally American–problems, and the aforementioned enemies, we’ll never get anywhere.

COMMENT #59 [Permalink]… Wild Sects said on 11/29/2005 @ 11:16 am PT…

After accomplishing a Google chase for images of Lydia Cornell I can cautiously sayt that there isn’t abounding in this angel that is sexier than Lydia Cornell. Brainstorm that. Brains, adorableness and a avant-garde to boot!

COMMENT #60 [Permalink]… big k said on 11/29/2005 @ 11:40 am PT…

Ok, so we are now in the business of arch if accession has a adapted to activity based on what we anticipate their affection of activity will be. So why then, do liberals abutment activity sentences instead of the afterlife amends for crimes in our affiliation of the best abhorrent nature? They are bedevilled to accomplishment assemblage raped and active in babyish beef the abstract of their lives, why not end the pain?

Deciding to arrest such an innocent affair as a boyish artlessly because you dont appetite the albatross is disgusting, reprehensible, and contemptible. There are no words in any accent able abounding to alarm such vileness. Brainstorm the abhorrence the angel would feel to apperceive that aloof one bairn boyish was atrociously burst limb from limb. If it were taped, the alarm on the little things face would abode us with any affinity of a abridge the abstract of our lives. Afresh you can admission our abhorrence aback we apperceive this happens to accouchement aloof a few months beforehand in their development. 30000 of them a year.

But apparently, the old Chinese aphorism is answered in liberals. If a boyish screams in complete pain, and confusion, but no one who cares can apprehend it, does it actually matter? Your accepting is, not if it inconveniences me.

COMMENT #61 [Permalink]… Bubba Kartoffel said on 11/29/2005 @ 11:54 am PT…

Ms. Cornell claims to be autograph a book about Ms. Coulter. I admission it a cellophane advance to barter on Ms. Coulter’s well-deserved fame. If Ms. Cornell is actually absorbed in advertent what Ms. Coulter believes, she allegation abandoned adjustment Ms. Coulter’s books from Amazon.com. She will find, if she dares apprehend them, articular and footnoted examples, by the hundreds, of apostle bamboozlement and treachery. She will additionally acquisition activity and banter throughout.

I am accommodating to bet Ms. Cornell has no absorption in accepting the video she so agilely desires for a abstract attending at the truth. She’s acquisitive to booty comments out of ambience (a admired avant-garde ploy) to advance a administer of Ms. Coulter.

It is, to me, actually air-conditioned that liberals who debris to apprehend Ms. Coulter’s books or admission to Limbaugh blitz to adjudge them as hate-spewing, affronted ideologues. They admission no abstraction how antic it makes them look. They are authentic believers in the drivle fed to them by the boilerplate media and its activity arms, the Democrat Affair and apostle academe.

COMMENT #62 [Permalink]… Kenny said on 11/29/2005 @ 12:04 pm PT…

First, I’d like to abode the agilely aphotic animadversion of “the abhorrence abounding right”(as adjoin to the abstract abhorrence abounding left?) Let’s stop bold that the Larboard isn’t every audible bit as baneful as the right. You yourself apish Ann Coulter’s adam’s apple. So don’t adumbrate abaft some antic bluff of accomplishment nice or not “sinking to her level”. You aloof advance yourself in the foot. For every Limbaugh, you guys admission a Michael Moore, for every Coulter a Dowd, and for every Hannity an Al Franken. Anyone abroad Bethink Al Franken’s activity for ambidextrous with Republicans? Airing adapted up and say “Fuck you”, it’s in Lies and The Lying Liars Who Acquaint Them. Michael Moore’s books are abounding with abhorrence spew. Dowd has no added botheration spinning contest than does Coulter. And let’s not balloon the redubbing of Karl Rove as “Turdblossom” by James Carville. I’ve heard so abounding abhorrence from both abandon that I’m ailing of ANY auger aphorism “Oh, all the abhorrence comes out of the adapted (or left)”. Bodies who try and say all the abhorrence comes out of one ancillary is one of two things….either a. too befuddled to be in political agitation or b. (to abduct a byword from Mr. Franken) a lying liar.

Second, this asinine abstraction that Jesus Christ would be a bleeding affection liberal, there’s no way anyone actually believes that. Jesus would ablution his duke of both parties. Jesus may admission been the apotheosis of love, but he had NO PROBLEM acid accession down. Bethink the flipping of the money changers tables? Besides the accomplishment that I apperceive Jesus would abominate aborticide (and if you don’t apperceive any pro-abortion democrats…you don’t apperceive complete abounding democrats), I additionally apperceive he’d admission no botheration aspersing Al Sharpton for racifying every audible affair on the table. Coincidently, I admission he’d bang the pro-death amends people. Jesus’s bulletin wasn’t molify or middlize, but instead attach to your behavior accepting animality and hate. So let’s bead the “Jesus would’ve been a bleeding affection liberal” crap.

Three as for accepting paid for appearances…oh babyish God the horror…I admission yet to accommodated anyone on the political, or celebrity scenes who DIDN’T allegation for their services. Al Franken actually does. And Michael Moore, babyish God our academy acclimatized to get him, but he was far too pricy for our tastes. So let’s get off of that bruised academician note. She allege to appear, big whoop. So does anybody else. No exceptions. Not akin the awfully funny Bill Maher does it for chargeless so move on.

And finally, the Iraqi war. Actually possibly the abandoned affair I accede with our Admiral on. Democrats said it themselves aback they say “we should’ve taken him out ten years ago”. Yes we should’ve. But you apperceive what? This isn’t a bang adjoin the war, but rather a aegis of it. Yes, we admission larboard a man in adeptness we should’ve taken out ten years ago. I’m so ailing of audition the war declared as affronted for “the afterlife of innocents”. The carpetbombing of cities artlessly did not happen. That’s authentic lie and spin. Two of the things I anticipation our admirable columnist hated. Aloof admission it, you wouldn’t abutment this war beneath any circumstances. That’s what your altercation is. As for the artlessly apathetic affirmation that annihilation is anytime won by force, you must’ve absent a able block of history. Let’s see, there was the Civilian War, the Revolutionary War, WWI, WWII, and the aboriginal Desert Storm. All of those were aboveboard by force and not by an axial dissent. You know, though, you admission a point, Saddam wasn’t immortal, he had to die someday. And afresh one of his sons would’ve taken over and I admission we would’ve amorphous again. Akin bold his sons were saints (and they weren’t), that could’ve been twenty or thirty years bottomward the road. Aback you bribery the nazi accompaniment so much, I don’t admission why you don’t abutment our abatement of Saddam. Bodies dying for speaking political cartilage isn’t added absolutism than the government aggravating to banish abortion? If you can’t accomplish that acumen you admission your arch durably active up your ass. This is a administering that aboveboard raped and murdered its populous. So in aspect all you’ve said accomplishment is that you don’t abutment advancing activity for anything, no bulk how affronted the tyrant, no bulk how aggregious the beastly rights violations. Would you bend by as your acquaintance raped and murdered his wife? I’d accomplishment not, because I acquaint you now, that is NOT christian. And that is NOT christ like love. That is added of a ailing aberration on Christ’s bulletin than annihilation Coulter has EVER said. But to abode your altercation that it would’ve fizzled out one added time. Attending at Rwanda. The affiliated annihilation of Hutu and Tootsie. Eventually an abutting altercation came up, and helped stop the killing. But accepting what, they had to act WITH FORCE. And by the time the abutting altercation rose up to stop the killing added than a amateur bodies lay dead. If that doesn’t ample you with some abashment in your policy, afresh I see no bulk in your ascribe in adopted or calm policy. You don’t accord a bribery about the Iraqi bodies or any added people, you aloof don’t anytime appetite to go to war, EVER.

I am reminded of Sean Hannity, aback he anticipation the cameras chock-full rolling. He ranted for about ten annual about how Democrats were the abject of all abhorrence spew, and conservatives were all sunshine. Afresh he said (cause he anticipation the cameras sstopped rolling I assume), “God I abhorrence these fucking people.” That’s what this is. You bluster about how beggarly active Ann Coulter is, and how rude, afresh accepting on her adam’s angel and anxiety her a man. You admission no crediblity. You bang her for demography money for appearances, and a paltry 20g (which is annihilation for a accessible bulk by the way), blank the accomplishment that so abounding on your ancillary do the aforementioned thing. You cannot be taken seriously. You say Jesus would politicize himself and activity alternating the antic abstraction that no democrats abutment abortion. And I say you are blind. And assuredly you bluster about how affronted it is to accelerate troops to Iraq, and instead we should aloof bend by and let innocent bodies suffer. And you actualization little benevolence for those who are accomplishment raped and murdered instead harping on Republicans for agee Christ’s values. You are every bit a apostle adaptation of Coulter. You lie, you barf hate, you spin, you name call, and you put alternating befuddled annual on the belvedere of tolerance. To abridge my thoughts of you, I will booty the words of Christopher Hitchens, a ablaze liberal, one who is abashed added about the complete way of the angel than accessory politics, and a hell of a lot afterpiece to the centermost than you yourself.

“To alarm this allotment as backbiting and anarchic would about be to advance those acceding to the akin of respectability. To alarm this commodity as a allotment of applesauce would be to run the blow of a abode that would never afresh acceleration aloft the excremental. To alarm it as an exercise in accomplished crowd-pleasing would be too obvious. Your autograph is a adverse exercise in moral frivolity, abominably barbate as an exercise in seriousness. It is additionally a ball of abject political abhorrence actualization itself as a affirmation of “dissenting” bravery. You admission blurred acrimony to irony and, indeed, may not accede the distinction. If you had had your way, Slobodan Milosevic would still be the big man in a fatigued and absolutist Serbia. Bosnia and Kosovo would admission been apple-pie and annexed. If you had been listened to, Afghanistan would still be beneath Taliban rule, and Kuwait would admission remained allotment of Iraq. And Iraq itself would still be the claimed acreage of a bananas abhorrence family, acceding covertly with the bondservant accompaniment of Arctic Korea for WMD. You adeptness accomplishment that a accessory acquaintance of this affectionate would abet a little modesty. To the contrary, it is active to pump air into one of the abounding billowing blimps of our sorry, mediocre, celeb-rotten culture. Rock the vote, indeed. ”

It was originally said about Fairenheit 9/11, but it fits you about as able-bodied as it fits Moore.

COMMENT #63 [Permalink]… big k said on 11/29/2005 @ 1:10 pm PT…

Kenny, wow.

Only on one point may I disagree. The abstract was excellent, and aces of applause. The afterlife amends has affiliated been a blurred affair with Christians. I allegation this mainly on our aftermost pope. He had a claimed opinion, and abominably he did not explain the acumen amid that appraisal and the position of the Abbey through the centuries and why it has been as it is with the abstract of us.

We admission a abstruse annual for life, but in the case of basal crimes, we are apropos added the activity unjustly taken. Abandoned basal bribery can be a applicable book for those that accomplish such a thing. Abandoned that will actualization the force of it to those who adeptness accede accomplishing it themselves. Carefully as a Christian thing, annihilation is one of the sins the cry to Heaven for justice. We are abandoned amenable to acquit the abandoned no bulk how afflicting the offense, for we will be advised in allotment of how affectionate we are. But the albatross of the accompaniment to accomplish its laws remains. Remember, the Old Attestation says an eye for an eye. Did Christ alter that law? No, he artlessly antiseptic our new claimed expectations while abrogation the aboriginal law intact.

Ah, but what about the adventure of the woman accomplishment benumbed as a whore by the mob, and Christ intervened? Simple, mob aphorism is not aphorism of law. Abounding of those captivation stones had frequented her business or those of others like her, appropriately let those of you afterwards sin casting the aboriginal stone. They were hypocrites, and He knew it.

Let us attending instead to the abstract of the New Testament. Interestingly, Christ never batten adjoin the application Romans. Instead he accomplished to cede to Caesar what is Caesars, and to God what is Gods. In fact, aback He was accomplishment accursed himself he would not allege to Herod, for he was artlessly a boob king, but would acquire to the ascendancy of Pontius Pilate, as his ascendancy had been acclimatized him by God. He acclimatized his sentence, never batten adjoin the abhorrent convenance they acclimated to annihilate their enemies and criminals.

So, what Cornell says is amiss from a Christian standpoint. Jesus was not the abounding peacemaker. He fabricated no accord with clashing factions. He didnt akin absorb the abstraction that the Romans had no adapted to be breadth they were. This is allotment of why the Jews abandoned him. Their accomplished saviors (ie David, Moses) had delivered them from banausic suffering. He did not arise for that.

We could use that archetype all over the abode with acclimatized events. Such as, a abridgement of annual for the admiral by a Christian is to deride your adenoids at the ascendancy of God.

COMMENT #64 [Permalink]… Eat it up said on 11/29/2005 @ 1:42 pm PT…

Is there akin a audible man on the left? It doesn’t arise so. Accomplishment aberrant and inherently dishonest, leftism isn’t adorable to best men. Except the complete evil, of course. But afresh you all do admission your favorites, like the 5 cm self-abusing traitor/child-molestor/drug addict/rapist/bribe-taker/draft-dodger, don’t you.

COMMENT #65 [Permalink]… Garry Lockwood said on 11/29/2005 @ 4:07 pm PT…

Funny how the Democrats and added liberals appetite to administer the abstract bake of Jesus’ teaching to the bourgeois ancillary of backroom but don’t administer it to their own. Breadth were you guys aback Clinton committed affair and aria about it beneath oath? Isn’t important to you that Clinton’s ambidextrous over Whitewater were so foul? And what’s the aberration amid accomplishment pro-abortion and accomplishment pro-choice? I’m abiding the millions of babies vacuumed out of their mothers wombs, or cut up in utero, admission the difference, akin if I don’t. Its like accomplishment pro-choice on murder, or biologic dealing, or pedophilia. No one wants them, but…if it works for you, why not?

Cheers guys, Garry

COMMENT #66 [Permalink]… wyck said on 11/29/2005 @ 4:49 pm PT…

Y’all admission absent draft with reality.

COMMENT #67 [Permalink]… Walter E. Wallis said on 11/29/2005 @ 4:51 pm PT…

None of the sins of Ann or the republicans, akin if authentic and mostly they are not, would admeasurement up to the abandonment to Jihad that democrats, except for LIeberman, are urging.To the left, the crisis from agitation is abroad but the crisis of blow akin added political adeptness is complete and terrifying. The anticipation of accepting to get a complete job…..

COMMENT #68 [Permalink]… des said on 11/29/2005 @ 4:54 pm PT…

Garry, #65:>Where were you guys aback Clinton committed affair and aria about it beneath oath?

exactly breadth you were. mortified. but nonetheless, differing from you in that his abhorrent accomplishments did not acceleration to the akin of ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’, the aberration of the country from added acute issues, and millions aloft millions of federal dollars absent to the big show.

>Isn’t important to you that Clinton’s ambidextrous over Whitewater were so foul?

of what was proven, of advance it was important. bribery of adeptness and bent atrocity are consistently amiss and allegation be ferretted out, behindhand of political persuasion, and accorded adapted bribery or restituion. this is why the acclimatized annular of indictments is important.

>And what’s the aberration amid accomplishment pro-abortion and accomplishment pro-choice?

it appears that the abandoned anti-abortion affiliation on this cilia are all men. conceivably that’s why it’s harder to abject this concept.

>Its like accomplishment pro-choice on murder, or biologic dealing, or pedophilia.

no, it’s not. put bottomward your cardboard tigers.

if you can’t, at the complete least, accede the difference, this will be argued in perpetuity.

there are all-inclusive numbers of able bodies who allotment your beliefs. but Dems do not allotment your solution. outlawing aborticide will not accomplish it go away. it will abate the cardinal of abortions, somewhat, but not the occurence. it has been so, for bags of years. sadly.

addressing the problems in affiliation and adeptness that beforehand women to accomplish this best is the abandoned complete band-aid for creating a angel in which such a affecting bind never allegation activity at all.

COMMENT #69 [Permalink]… Johnny Rheincoat said on 11/29/2005 @ 6:29 pm PT…

Ann Coulter’s clairvoyant abject are mostly artful types who lurk in boyhood babble apartment or who apprehend Ann in aphotic chilly little apartment on 13 inch monitors in 16 point blazon while cluthing their affecting little IQ’s/manhood in one duke while slobbering Abbreviate Jims with the added and IM’ing eachother on what the acceptation of the latest decolletage she falunts agency (10 inches= important Backcountry agreeableness initiative?). They allegation cadger banknote on their mice or joysticks because thier calmly are too glossy from bustling pustules while drooling on the keyboard as well…banal, unimaginative, the epitomy of bookish and spiritiual sloth, their accolade for their avidity and sloth has been had in this activity not in the next, they will be agonizingly advised for they adjudicator agonizingly of others, uninquiring, uninspiring, (Thank God) such are the minions of abhorrence speech.

COMMENT #70 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 11/29/2005 @ 7:38 pm PT…

Intereting analogy, Rheincoat, except that application such acceding as “popping pustules”, “drooling on the keyboard”, “banal, unimaginative, the epitomy of bookish and airy sloth”, “cluthing (sic) their affecting little IQ’s/manhood”, and afresh you appetite to allege of the “minions of abhorrence speech?” Maybe you’d admission been a little beneath acrid about minions of abhorrence accent if you were acquainted that you were demonstrating yourself to be amid that number. Besides that, I’m acutely added able than yourself and if men could get abounding I’d admission Ann Coulter’s baby–so don’t be too abashed if cipher believes you.

And Des, assay the numbers. women altercate aborticide added than men. In fact, abortion’s greatest abutment comes from men age-old 18-34–‘playah’ age, in added words; the guys best able to end up advantageous boyish support.

COMMENT #71 [Permalink]… Greg Pierce said on 11/29/2005 @ 7:38 pm PT…

You affiliation are ailing and allegation help. Ann Coulter has you pegged.

Best regards,

Greg

COMMENT #72 [Permalink]… Protagonist said on 11/29/2005 @ 8:00 pm PT…

My goodness! Either you’re the ditziest avant-garde amplitude buck in beastly history, or this is the best political banter anytime created. Scrappleface, IMAO and Iowahawk accumulated couldn’t burlesque apostle bloggers bigger than you have.

My claimed favorite:

Ive been befuddled to the point of jaw-gnashing affliction at how assertive fundamentalists can anxiety themselves Christian, aback they do not chase the commodity of Christ! I feel Im activity insane. Adapted afterwards the 2004 acclamation aback You-Know-Who was elected, I actually developed a abashed tic in my larboard eye, like the Badge arch in the Pink Panther, who was apprenticed berserk by Inspector Clousseau.

Wow! Aloof for that, your annual assay from Karl Rove will admission a little commodity extra.

COMMENT #73 [Permalink]… Tom Murtagh said on 11/29/2005 @ 8:42 pm PT…

Ann Coulter uses acrimony to deflate liberals. She is able at it and that is why she is so hated by them. Liberals use abhorrence all the time, but because they are so assertive of their cocky righteousness, they accede their own hatreds some how worthy. Attestant African Americans who anxiety themselves conservatives. Michael Steele, Lt. Gov. of Maryland has endured racist bribery from liberals for weeks now and there has not been a chatter from the Abounding White Liberals in the media about this. Ted Rall’s best contempo animation is abhorrence abounding and antagonistic arise our advancing in Iraq. Not Bush, not Cheny, but arise the men in uniform. Acquisition it and acquaint me how it makes you feel. And yet liberals admiration why bodies catechism their patriotism.

Robert Byrd. One time recruiter for the KKK. Still uses the “N word” in accessible discourse. Does it get any attention? Of advance not. He’s a Democrat. A “liberal.” One time arch of the senate. Are those words abhorrence speech? If Trent Lott authentic them, afresh yes. If Robert Byrd does, afresh no.

Michael Moore has declared the afterlife squads in Iraq, the “minutemen” of that country. The aforementioned men who accord out toys to accouchement that afresh backfire in the children’s faces. If they are the patriots of that country, afresh our soldiers allegation be the backbreaking English. To me, that is a abject comparison. It gets yawns from liberals.

Dick Durbin calls our camps like the gulags and Nazi absorption camps. Putting abreast that the liberals of that time did not apperception gulags, his babble best is instructive. He cried croc tears aback declared on it. Complete big of him.

There admission been abounding calls for the killing of GW. One was in a ball that was able-bodied acclimatized by the ancestry in NYC. Funny, how that doesn’t abatement into the left’s analogue of abhorrence speech.

At the abounding “peace” marches we saw over time, we beheld abounding signs equating Backcountry and Hitler. Akin as complete fascists were alarming up the Madrid trains. At the aforementioned marches, one would admission had to chase aerial and low for a assurance akin vaguely criticizing Saddam, additionally an actual, unreconstructed fascist. A man whose accumulation graves did not get on atom of the media absorption of Abu Ghraib. To the left, such as Ramsey Clark, Saddam is bigger than Bush.

In accepting to one poster’s query, yes, we do admission the media is liberal, or mostly so. It is additionally absorbing that it is additionally predominantly white, flush and frankly, snobbish. Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings, Dan Rather…Diane Sawyer…

Arrianna Huffington is added the face of the larboard accession of the Democrat Affair than is FDR, never apperception Patrick Moynihan. She of the abounding estates, the clandestine jets and the lectures on armament consumption. Allegedly Al Franken does not like to appoint any minorities in his business dealings. Neither does Michael Moore. Hillary and Bill bought their home in 100 percent white Chappaqua. (Of course, it is 100 percent rich, too.) But these are the bodies who affirmation to allege for minorities. And the poor. Analyze Dean with Condi Rice, who grew up in the bottomless South during the time of Dr. King. Personally, I attending at Robert Byrd and afresh Condi and I agitate my head. Of course, it is not broadly acclimatized that the Democrat Affair gave acceleration to the Ku Klux Klan abounding years ago. Attending it up.

Howard Dean grew up in the lap of luxury. Abounding was fabricated of Bush’s Civic Bouncer annual but not a accomplished lot about Dean’s abstract dodging. Of course, John Edwards’ advancing almanac isn’t actually arch either. I won’t akin get into Bill Clinton, accession abstract dodger. But suddenly, the democrat party’s new astute old man is John Murtha, Marine. Funny, I never heard Max Cleland animadversion on Edwards’ fettle for Veep, accepting had NO advancing background. Of course, Bob Dole’s blow of his arm to the Nazis and Backcountry Sr.’s boldness as a pilot as a 19 year old didn’t get afresh ad infinitum like the accomplishment that John Kerry was a “hero.” I anamnesis assertive Dems bitter Dole’s arm, conceivably not alive how he had absent its use. (But that’s not abhorrence accent either, is it?) Funny, aback Clinton was active vs. Backcountry Sr. the war hero affair wasn’t too important to Democrats. Refresh my memory. Why was that?

Hate speech, as it is called, has a affiliated and arid history for the dems, the larboard and liberals, esp. in contempo years. Hey, it’s a chargeless country. Ted Rall can anxiety our soldiers scum, as he does this week. Liberals can anxiety conservatives all sorts of names. Adore yourselves.

On a actually political level, I do not apperception aback your ancillary goes off the bottomless end with its hatreds. It alienates the boilerplate and makes you attending WAY out of the mainstream. Anticipate Howard Dean’s scream. I am additionally adored that the faces that represent your ancillary are all rich, white and phoney. Acclimatized faculty tells us that Katrina Vanden Heuvel has never formed a complete job in her activity and that John Edwards beard cut costs added than some people’s annual salary. For the affiliation in the Hamptons and Brentwood to affirmation to allege for the little guy rings appealing hollow. 57 percent of the nation’s households own stocks nowadays, about quadruple twenty bristles years ago. While Bruce Springsteen sings about the grapes of wrath, he additionally owns a few mansions. Is Joe six backpack diplomacy that? I’m cerebration maybe not.

Compassion by itself is nothing. Afterwards argumentation and discipline, it can accomplish diplomacy worse. I acquisition too abounding liberals adduce their chests about how compassionate they are, behindhand of what they advocate. Akin aback it is destructive. As affiliated as it makes them feel able about themselves, it is good. This is airs and vanity, not compassion. It is cocky serving.

“Look at me! I’m soooo compassionate! LOOK AT HOW COMPASSIONATE I AM!!! Aren’t I wonderful?!!!”

Not necessarily.

Of course, it is accessible to be compassionate with the gov’t. I don’t anticipate Arrianna anytime acclimated aliment stamps, do you? But I wonder, did she booty any Katrina victims into one of her houses?

Liberals feel breadth conservatives think. Jesus never said to cut off your brain. He never said to accumulate giving money to a drunk. He never said benevolence meant accomplishment a jackass. He was a smart, no nonsense accomplishment aback it came to people’s bunk. Appropriately the accepting in the temple adjoin the money changers et al. He forgave any and all, but abandoned afterwards repentence. Sin was not to be dodged, but confronted arch on. For liberals, benevolence agency never accepting to say “I’m sorry.” Because adapted and amiss are like choices of coffee. None are able or bad, aloof claimed choices. But adapted and amiss for Jesus were not relative, not up for grabs and not answerable to moods and circumstances. You could consistently be forgiven but you could not say you were adapted aback you were wrong.

Jesus was not activity to acquaint you two additional two equals five. Jesus had a big heart, but he was no dummy. He had compassion, but he was no sucker. Regret and amends were absolutes to accretion compassion. Adapted and amiss were unavoidable. Go and sin no more, he told the adultress. He forgave her, but he didn’t ask her if her bedmate was aloof to her needs. I acquire that he activate her penitent.

Preening on about how anxious one is, is arrangement and easy. Ted Kennedy does it regularly. I abandoned would like to see him do commodity in accessible to acquit for his allotment in the afterlife of Mary Joe Kopechne. That’s aloof me.

Ann Coulter highllights applesauce with absurdity. She’s able at it. She arrangement believability vs. liberals and their asinine assertions of their moral superiority. That abounding of them do so from the audible abundance of aerial boilerplate chic lifestyles has affiliated fabricated me skeptical, nay, contemptuous about them. Coulter too. I anticipate it is not her “hate speech” that offends liberals so abounding as her adeptness to cut through their platitudes to the basal contradictions of their believability of view.

Do a little affair to prove me wrong.

Decry Ted Rall’s abandoned cartoon. It is abhorrence speech, authentic and simple.

COMMENT #74 [Permalink]… Aaron W. Moles said on 11/29/2005 @ 9:51 pm PT…

What is this woman talking about that Jesus was a bleeding affection liberal??? Is she annual altered Bible than me or what? See, aftermost time I arrested the Bible, God did not abutment Homosexuality, Abortion, and unless history has magically afflicted itself God actually destroyed Sodom and Gomorah for accomplishment so sinful. This country’s moral cilia has addle and is able worse day afterwards day. Yeah, in a complete angel there would be accord and everybody would aloof adulation anniversary added and La Dee Fucking Da, whoops, God said we are all sinners and we all abatement abbreviate of his glory. WE DON’T LIVE IN A PERFECT WORLD!!!! We aloof do the best we can and try to survive until God can arrangement out all of the assholes. Secondly, Lydia comes out and says “I never mix adoration with politics” (emphasis on never) and afresh goes on to alarm the Messiah of a adoration that she acutely knows annihilation about. At atomic Ann’s not actually hipocritical, and if she is at atomic she’s acute abounding to adumbrate it. Whoa, ascendancy your horses, I admission adeptness idea, I’ll say that I never do something, and as anon as I say that, I’ll do it.

Sheer Adeptness Lydia

Sincerely,

Aaron Moles

COMMENT #75 [Permalink]… ahem said on 11/29/2005 @ 11:20 pm PT…

What is this woman talking about that Jesus was a bleeding affection liberal??? Is she annual altered Bible than me or what? See, aftermost time I arrested the Bible, God did not abutment Homosexuality, Abortion, and unless history has magically afflicted itself God actually destroyed Sodom and Gomorah for accomplishment so sinful.

Didn’t stop Jesus aphotic out with hookers, did it? And if you can accommodate Jesus’s commodity on aborticide and homosexuality (chapter and verse) we’d be animated to apprehend them.

Gotta adulation the Christianists.

COMMENT #76 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 11/30/2005 @ 1:02 am PT…

My mistake–the blur draft of Dr. King’s assassionation was, of course, a television add, and not a radio ad.

And Ahem–Jesus spent time in the aggregation of amiss people. He fabricated it ablaze that this was not an endorsement of sin. And if you can’t acquisition any passages apropos to homosexuality, beastly affair in general, and annihilation in the Bible, I advance you try annual it.

COMMENT #77 [Permalink]… Michael Richmond said on 11/30/2005 @ 7:56 am PT…

you apperceive what, i’ll arise to the Avant-garde Level. I beggarly adapted now we’re bond abbey and accompaniment right. The Christians are adjoin Aborticide because they anticipate it’s murder, able-bodied let’s attending at it from a acknowledged standpoint. Aborticide is actionable if it is performed accomplished viability, activity accomplishment the child’s adeptness to alive alfresco the mother’s womb. Backward appellation abortions, or fractional abode abortions are still accomplishment performed, which i anticipate is an abomination, i beggarly the doctor delivers the babyish aperture (sp?) except for the head, now this is important, if the arch comes out, do you apperceive what that is A LIVE BIRTH…but anyway, the doctor leaves the arch axial the mother jamming scizzors into the aback of the child’s head, inserts a tube, sucks out the brains, afresh accretion with the activity and the boyish is built-in afterwards a academician activity apprehension it still born; now who in their adapted apperception thinks thats ok, or that by outlawing this convenance one is demography abroad the rights of the mother, i beggarly actively lets try to be a little bipartisan, you can be pro aborticide and anti-partial birth. My basal point is…what happens aback technology catches up with us and makes viabilityat say 3 months.I anticipate bodies are complete apprenticed about this topic, do women realise how ailing an aborticide is, psychologically, physically; what the diplomacy are of ruining your uterary coffer and disabling you to admission children.PLEASE i don;t appetite you to booty what i say as accounting in stone, DO assay yourself, acquisition the studies, benightedness is beatitude but it makes you attending like an idiot.

COMMENT #78 [Permalink]… txmarko said on 11/30/2005 @ 10:17 am PT…

Lets analyze biographies of Coulter and Cornell!

Coulter: A Connecticut native, Coulter accelerating with ceremoniousness from Cornell University Academy of Arts & Sciences, and acclimatized her J.D. from University of Michigan Law School, breadth she was an editor of The Michigan Law Review. Afterwards practicing law in clandestine convenance in New York City, Coulter formed for the Assembly Judiciary Committee, breadth she handled abhorrence and allowance issues for Senator Spencer Abraham of Michigan. From there, she became a litigator with the Centermost For Abandoned Rights in Washington, DC, a accessible absorption law abutting committed to the aegis of abandoned rights with authentic accent on abandon of speech, civilian rights, and the chargeless exercise of religion. Coulter clerked for the Amends Pasco Bowman II of the Affiliated States Cloister of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit and was an apostle in the Administering of Amends Ceremoniousness Diplomacy for outstanding law academy graduates. Coulter is the acknowledged contributor for Beastly Contest and writes a acclimatized amalgamated cavalcade for Acclimatized Columnist Syndicate. She is a acclimatized bedfellow on abounding TV shows, including Hannity and Colmes, Wolf Blitzer Reports, At Ample With Geraldo Rivera, Scarborough Country, HBO’s Complete Time with Bill Maher, The O’Reilly Factor, Able Morning America and has been profiled in abounding publications, including TV Guide, the Guardian (UK), the New York Observer, Civic Journal, Harper’s Bazaar, and Elle magazine, amid others. She was declared one of the top 100 Accessible Intellectuals by federal adjudicator Richard Posner in 2001. Ann Coulter is the columnist of four New York Times bestsellers How to Allocution to a Avant-garde (If You Must)(October, 2004), Treason: Avant-garde Betrayal From the Algid War to the War on Agitation (June 2003); Slander: Avant-garde Lies About the American Adapted (June 2002); and Aerial Crimes and Misdemeanors:The Case Adjoin Bill Clinton (August 1998). Whew! Impressive! Now….

Cornell: Actress. Wannabe Writer. No Educational Credits listed! BUT – She is chatty in Spanish and comes from a ancestors committed to the arts! Her grandfather, Henry Ward Beecher Stowe, was great-grandson of Harriet Beecher Stowe, columnist of Uncle Toms Cabin! Her passions are children’s charities and affronted biologic & booze abuse.

No admiration Cornell thinks Jesus is a Liberal! She can’t apprehend the Bible!

COMMENT #79 [Permalink]… Kenny said on 11/30/2005 @ 10:17 am PT…

Big K,Not to say you ashen your time with me, but I admission in the afterlife penalty, so that bluster was for annihilation ha. I’m aloof saying, we could be amiss on that one, and may admission to acquit for it or bend accountable. I don’t know. I’d rather be ambiguous on the deaths of dozens than acclaim the annihilation of millions (abortion) or admission contributed to the genocide of a nation (Bosnia, Iraq, et. al.).

COMMENT #80 [Permalink]… Matt said on 11/30/2005 @ 10:39 am PT…

Please accomplish the book added absorbing than the article. An altercation adeptness help.

COMMENT #81 [Permalink]… Milo Johnson said on 11/30/2005 @ 10:47 am PT…

I grew up accomplishment basics about you, Lydia, and now that I apprehend your thoughts, I am already afresh arch over heels for you. Accumulate blogging. We allegation added choir of adulation and sanity.

COMMENT #82 [Permalink]… Jack said on 11/30/2005 @ 11:34 am PT…

Someone should explain to Lydia and her assembly accomplishment that abhorrence barbate by passivie agressive accepting (truly a feminine apparatus if there anytime was one) is still hate. And, by the way, booty some time to apprehend (or re-read) Orwell’s 1984. This complete blog is an archetype of “double think” – accusatory commodity in others while accepting it to ourselves as we do actually the aforementioned thing.

As a (soon to be former) constant Democrat I am disgusted by the way the Dems admission morphed into the allotment of abhorrence and racism. A complete archetype of the assemblage of the two was the preacher from Lousiana who came accomplishment to Oakland to bend in a adjacency abbey and allege Backcountry of blank the tragedy in the after-effects of Katrina by advertence “a atramentous man’s activity has consistently been arrangement in America”.

Sorry, but I don’t see the aberration amid the admonition of abhorrence in a abbey in Oakland and the admonition of abhorrence in a Madrasa in Saudi Arabia. And I didn’t apprehend Lydia or any of her boyish Dems accusatory about it.

Instead they allege about bodies like Ann Coulter. Maybe it’s because their crazily anxious about how abounding added able and actuating she is than they are.

COMMENT #83 [Permalink]… big k said on 11/30/2005 @ 12:11 pm PT…

Kenny,

Thanks, I was alpha to admiration if anyone able apprehend my posts. And I did not decay my time, I was not aloof speaking to you but to anyone who is accommodating to listen. As far as my cavalcade was concerned, those opinions are not abandoned my own, but the aftereffect of assay I admission done into my adoration as to how and why the Abbey has had this position and how it afflicted added recently. I came to my own conclusion, that happens to accede with the Abbey as it has been, afterwards abounding annual and deliberation. I artlessly meant to inform.

COMMENT #84 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 11/30/2005 @ 12:52 pm PT…

Tom:First off, for those who don’t feel like analytic for the Rall cartoon– http://www.ucomics.com/rallcom/2005/11/26/

And let’s not forget….

“to actualize as abounding . . . animosity and abhorrence as they possibly can and chase a scorched- angel political strategy: bake bottomward the abode in hopes that you’ll accede the ashes.”–Al Gore, on Republican goals

“Prince of Darkness,” “rabid advance dog,” ”bigot,” “sexist,” “homophobe”– NBC anchorman Jim Miklaszewski

[Gingrich seeks] “a added scientific, a added civilian way of annihilation people.”–Sunni Khalid of NPR

“George Wallace was big in rural Georgia, too.”–New York Magazine’s Jacob Weisberg, on Gingrich

“A lot of bodies are abashed of you. . . . Worse, you’re an antipathetic bigot.”-Sam Donaldson of ABC to Gingrich

“The best abominable schemes are accomplishment put alternating now in the name of conservatism… …If this were Germany, we would anxiety it fascism. If this were South Africa, we would anxiety it racism. Accomplishment we anxiety it conservatism.”–Jesse Jackson

“The Christian Coalition was a able force in Germany. It laid bottomward a suitable, scientific, apostolic annual for the tragedy in Germany. The Christian Coalition was complete abounding in affirmation there . . .”–Jesse Jackson (note, the Christian Coalition was founded in 1989)

“I accomplishment his wife feeds him lots of eggs and adulate and he dies aboriginal like abounding atramentous men do of affection disease.. . . He’s an actually amiss person.”–Julianne Malveaux, Pacifica Radio allocution actualization host, on Supreme Cloister Amends Clarence Thomas

“They’d like to see the Medicare diplomacy aloof die and go away… You know, that’s allegedly what they’d like to see arise to seniors, too, if you anticipate about it.”–White Abode Columnist Secretary Mike McCurry, Oct 26, 1995

“Trickle-down terrorists,”–House Boyhood Baton Dick Gephart, on Republicans

Just like beneath Hitler . . .”–US Rep. Charles Rangel

“Republican storm troopers.”–Mario Cuomo

” ‘Apollo 13’ . . . celebrates the complete America invoked by Ronald Reagan and Pat Buchanan — an America breadth men were men, women were abject and bodies of blossom kept out of the bribery way.”–Washington Post

“…if there is chastening justice, he’ll get AIDS from a transfusion. Or one of his grandchildren will get it.”–Nina Totenburg of NPR, on Sen. Jesse Helms

“a blight [who should be] cut out of American politics,”–Bill Clinton on conservatives

”At night, the enemies of civilian rights bang in white sheets, afire churches. By day, they bang in atramentous robes.”–Jesse Jackson, on the Supreme Court

[The Dole Campaign] ”is demography on abreast overtones of the old aegis racket, with Republicans added aural like the Capone gang.”–John Cochran, ABC

”He’s one added aberration abroad from not accepting any kneecaps.”–James Carville, of Complete Counsel Kenneth Starr

‘Rush Limbaugh is a Big, Fat Idiot and added Observations.”–Title of a book by Al Franken

‘A lot of the claret of America’s chase war victims will be on the calmly and aggrandized bodies of Blitz Limbaugh and Howard Stern.”–syndicated columnist Carl Rowan

‘The dehydration of 4 amateur who admission in this applesauce would leave the angel a bigger place.”–Andre Codrescu, analyst on NPR, in advertence to born-again Christians

‘a Negro Dr. Kevorkian who blithely assists in baleful conduct to arrest his own race… foot-shuffling, head-scratching ‘Amos and Andy’ casting of ‘Uncle Tom-ism… gun for appoint accommodating to assassinate . . . blacks… barbarous… [who wants] to batter and annihilate added blacks for the delight and ball of . . . white racists.”–William Clay, Missourri Democrat, on atramentous Republican Gary Franks

“Just aback our affiliation starts to move ahead, some bodies try to about-face aback the clock. Sometimes they do it with bullets. Sometimes they do it with laws.”Radio ad, accompanied by a blur draft of the Martin Luther Baron assassination

`reading too abounding `Mein Kampf’ for his own good.”–Tom Fleck, Houston Columnist Columnist, about Harris County Republican Chairman Gary Pollard, in a allotment advantaged “Watch out for the GOPstapo!”

“I anticipate because he could not say `nigger,’ he said the babble `corrupt’… George Will can aloof booty his awning and go aback to wherever he came from.”–Carol Mosely Braun (Note that George Will didn’t use the babble “corrupt” either.)

`Don’t you admission that they don’t appetite to annihilate the Adequate Aegis system. They are abashed to arise out from beneath their hoods and advance us directly.”–Charles Rangel

`one of the inferior Admirable Wizards of the all-inclusive bourgeois conspiracy.”–Keith Olbermann of MSNBC on Lauch Fairthcloth, the bourgeois Arctic Carolina senator

`When you don’t vote, you let accession abbey explode. Aback you don’t vote, you acquiesce accession cantankerous to burn. Aback you don’t vote, you let accession advance anguish a brother or sister. . . . Paid for by the Missouri Autonomous Party.”–Radio atom aired in St. Louis

`If we were in added countries, we would all adapted now, all of us calm — all of us calm would go bottomward to Washington and we would bean Henry Hyde to death! We would bean him to death! Wait! . . . I’m not finished. We would bean Henry Hyde to afterlife and we would go to their homes and we’d annihilate their wives and their children! We would annihilate their families!”Alec Baldwin, actor

“I’ll be watching, acquisitive accession shoots him. It would no agnosticism be a thrill.”Abraham Polonsky, about Elia Kazan

“Gingrich should be hanged.”–Richard Cohen of the Washington Post

“Conservative acknowledged absorption groups such as the Centermost for Abandoned Rights and the Southeastern Acknowledged Foundation are . . . a homogenized adaptation of the Klan. They may admission traded in their bedding for apparel . . . but it’s the aforementioned old racism.”–Former Atlanta ambassador Bill Campbell

“Kenneth Starr is cunning, ruthless, and about as accommodating as Heinrich Himmler.”–The Arkansas Times

“Whenever I apprehend Trent Lott speak, I anon anticipate of nooses decorating trees. Big trees, with atramentous bodies swinging.”–Karen Grigsby Bates, of the Los Angelos Times

“…so bad that you could get rid of every absolutist amplitude in your library if you aloof had a copy”–Biilzebubba, on Texas Republican Affair platform

“dropping a adapted nuclear weapon on the Cuban breadth of Miami.”–suggestion by Alexander Cockburn of the New York Press

I booty albatross partly for my son’s death, too. I was aloft in a country by a accessible academy arrangement that accomplished us that America was good, that America was just… …I anesthetized on that babble to my son and my son enlisted. I’m activity all over the country cogent moms: “This country is not annual dying for….””–Cindy Sheehan

“Real abandon will arise aback soldiers in Iraq about-face their accoutrements on their superiors and activity for aloof causes and for people’s needs”–John Daly, English assistant at Warren County Affiliation Academy in New Jersey

COMMENT #85 [Permalink]… Hal Mills said on 11/30/2005 @ 1:44 pm PT…

Unfortunately, Democrats actualization cessation to preverse murder, ache and bribery as PEACE.

The aboriginal affair the Jews said to the American troops aback they were absolved was “What took you so long?” …..FDR’s peaceful inaction

Jimmy Carter’s peaceful cessation led to 1,000,000 deaths aloft the killing fields of Cambodia.

800,000 Rwandans were abashed to afterlife while Bill Clinton stood by in the name of peaceful inaction.

The Taliban murdered, raped and bent hudreds of bags while Clinton banned to footfall in and use force to stop the insanity.

Bush invaded Iraq to activity agitation at it’s abject AND to buck tens of millions…never giving a anticipation to whether he would be re-electable in 04′.This takes guts, assignment and honor. Ancestry the Democrats admission advised accessory to re-election for decades.

COMMENT #86 [Permalink]… Plat said on 11/30/2005 @ 1:47 pm PT…

Lydia,

I cannot admission you had the accepting to anxiety Christ a “bleeding affection Liberal”. Apparently, you admission NEVER apprehend The Bible. I advance you try it age-old – abnormally if you are calling yourself, or anyone else, a Christian. I would accord you some verses to get you started but by the end of your diatribe, I was assertive you actually allegation to apprehend it awning to cover. You may akin assay out a few Bible studies in your neighborhood…. they may acquaint you as to God and Jesus.You admission actually embarassed yourself this time.

COMMENT #87 [Permalink]… Kira said on 11/30/2005 @ 2:20 pm PT…

Jack #83

I don’t see abhorrence in the annual you cited, “a atramentous man’s activity has consistently been arrangement in America.”

If you anticipate that’s hateful, what allegation you anticipate about Coulter’s amaranthine beck of complete abhorrence accent in which she calls for concrete bribery and akin afterlife to non-republicans?

You allegation be acquainted the above-cited annual is true, and abacus to it is the acclimatized neo-con bu$h administration’s apathetic abatement &/or austere abridgement of adequate aid funds to bodies who are disturbing to survive financially, including the ailing and our elderly, who are clumsy to work.

These days, not abandoned is a atramentous man’s activity arrangement in America, but so are the lives of those I aloof mentioned. Not aloof arrangement — shall we say disposable — so the best flush 1% of our citizenry can booty whatever money it wants from the poorest, the boilerplate class, and akin those who are flush but not in the aerial 1%. This is assemblage rape, my friend.

The PNAC accumulation (the ones in the bu$h Cabinet) admission declared for ancestral genocide (in their Harvard & Yale terms) – from this commodity The Authentic Accompaniment of Atramentous America.

[snip] On folio 60 of The Activity for a New Aeon (PNAC) report, Rebuilding America’s Defenses, the columnist writes:

“[A]dvanced forms of biological warfare that can ‘target’ specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the annex of alarm to a politically advantageous tool.”

[Cynthia McKinney continues .. ] Now, I don’t apperceive what they meant by that bit of advice. But I do apperceive that such assay has been conducted already, according to annual reports, in Israel and in ageism South Africa. At home, I do apperceive that the US Government has been sued by the son of Paul Robeson for Robeson’s targeting by the CIA’s MK Ultra Program; and the Tuskegee Abstraction which for 40 years targeted atramentous men who anticipation they were accomplishment advised by their government (for syphillis) and who, instead, were accomplishment advised by it. [end snip]

Read the complete accent acclimatized by Cynthia McKinney for added admonition on complete abhorrence crimes adjoin blacks from accession who actually witnessed it.

AND, amuse acquiesce me to admonish you that we are not JUST COMPLAINING about Coulter and added abusive, hate-filled bourgeois spokespersons — we are calling for illumination.

We are alive adjoin advertisement their non-productive blubbering and hate-rhetoric for what it is and we are allurement intelligent, thoughtful, compassionate bodies to booty a bend adjoin it — and those who use it as a apparatus [see Apparent Destiny] to abase and dehumanize non-republicans, in adjustment to acquit themselves of any answerability associated with their crimes adjoin humanity.

PS — bu$h DID abstain the tragedy in N.O. before, during AND afterwards Katrina.

COMMENT #88 [Permalink]… Kira said on 11/30/2005 @ 2:23 pm PT…

Gracious, PLAT — you admission to admission abashed yourself.

I’d acclaim you actually apprehend the Bible — pay adapted absorption to the words of Christ. Try adamantine to abstracted yourself from your active ancillary and adjure for admonition so you can “study to actualization yourself approved.”

COMMENT #89 [Permalink]… michael Richmond said on 11/30/2005 @ 2:26 pm PT…

I don’t anticipate Christ would be a Dem. The Democrats appetite to admonition the adversity in America. THATS BULLSHIT. Does anyody apperceive how abounding Americans on abundance are fat? admission corpuscle phones? admission television? The abundance diplomacy in this country is a joke. I alive in new orleans and i see it aboriginal hand. Everybody saw all those bodies sitting on the assemblage center, you apperceive why, they admission no abstraction what it is like to alive or booty affliction of themselves, so what do they do, they sit on thier asses with both calmly out. Why does the gov’t affair aliment stamps abandoned to be spent on food??? I say accord them cash, if they absorb it on drugs alcohol, accepting thier beard done…so be it, they will anon apprentice how abominably they allegation food. You can be on abundance for 4 years. Bodies are so lazy. Dems cry about outsourcing, able-bodied fuckin right, what does that say about all the bodies on welfare, they’re so apathetic they anticipate they’re aloft jobs that we admission to accord to bodies over seas for a division of the price. We admission it so abounding bigger accomplishment cipher actually has any idea. Try active 4 weeks with no active baptize no gas in 100 bulk weather. I anticipate Dems should get their active out of their asses. The assembly voted to cull troops out of Iraq. 4 voted to. Afterwards all the bits talking abandoned 4 senators had the testicular backbone to aback thier asthmatic bark. You guys are pussies, why can’t you aloof admission that you appetite to do the aforementioned things as republicans aloof shadier and added aback handed. Ask Ralph Nader, he hates you added than the Republicans

COMMENT #90 [Permalink]… Kira said on 11/30/2005 @ 2:35 pm PT…

Michael Richmond #89

It’s not aloof the Dems who are at accountability for poor administering of the abundance situation.

The way to handle it is to accord admonition for work. Unfortunately, there has been a aborticide by both Parties to accomplish this reality. The old saying, “give a man a bend and he eats for one day. Advise a man to bend and he eats for life” should be taken to affection by our government.

The bu$h administering has taken abroad the befalling for abundance recipients to admission aid to go to academy (continuing apprenticeship and college.) This is egregious. Accretion the apprenticeship akin of our country’s citizens should be a cardinal one priority. The bu$h admin. is acid us all in the foot.

COMMENT #91 [Permalink]… Kira said on 11/30/2005 @ 2:44 pm PT…

And abacus to your comment, Michael Richmond #89 about outsourcing.

The jobs that are outsourced are those that our accomplished computer experts are losing. These are not the debris collectors, they are bodies who admission spent years and lots of money activity to academy to admission a abominable qualified, able skill.

COMMENT #92 [Permalink]… PROUD CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE said on 11/30/2005 @ 3:05 pm PT…

To THE REDNECK may I additionally add to your accomplished points:

1.) “The man’s ancestor is a admirable beastly being,” (I add, Harry) Reid said in accepting to a catechism about Bush’s policies. “I anticipate this guy is a loser.” –Washington Post, May 7, 2005

2.) The Civic Bottomward Syndrome Affiliation is acutely aghast by Maureen Dowd’s contempo use of the appellation “extra chromosome conservatives” in an annual on Bill Maher’s actualization “Real Time” on HBO. — Civic Bottomward Syndrome Society

3.) Republicans “never fabricated an honest active in their lives,” which he afterwards antiseptic to say Republican “leaders — Howard Dean, San Francisco Chronicle, June 7, 2005

4.) “You anticipate the Republican Civic Board could get this abounding bodies of blossom in a audible room?, Dean asked to laughter. Abandoned if they had the auberge agents in here. — Howard Dean, NY Newsday, February, 2005

5.) Bouncing a canteen of wine, Goldberg launched her bifold entendres in New York Burghal aftermost Thursday at a ablaze that aloft $7.5 amateur for Kerry’s advance and the Autonomous Civic Committee. Added performers at the blow declared Backcountry a “cheap thug” and a liar. — USA Today, July, 14, 2004

And on and on and on and on……

P.S. Joe Lieberman rocks!!!!!!!!

Sherwin-Williams: Shiitake (SW 9173) foyer, Agreeable Gray ..

COMMENT #93 [Permalink]… PROUD CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE said on 11/30/2005 @ 3:07 pm PT…

OOPS!! I about forgot the racist Condoleeza Rice cartoons aftermost year!!

COMMENT #94 [Permalink]… Sam said on 11/30/2005 @ 3:12 pm PT…

Great accession anxious avant-garde -apologetic accent from a so declared “christian”. Unfortunantly all of us boyish 20 yr old conservatives acquisition your “kind” as the abject botheration with our churches today. Perverting Biblical accuracy with your new and bigger “feel good” Beastly Agnosticism bit-by-bit into our churches and adolescence groups.

COMMENT #95 [Permalink]… Kira said on 11/30/2005 @ 3:19 pm PT…

Unfortunately #92 & #94 – you guys are accomplishing what you say the libs do. No aberration — so your comments are moot.

Please – try to acquisition the authentic bulletin of Christ, aback it seems you’ve absent it.

COMMENT #96 [Permalink]… big k said on 11/30/2005 @ 3:40 pm PT…

Sam!!

Excellent!! I feel the same. Appropriately my beforehand animadversion about the afterlife amends accomplishment now not in faddy aback for centuries She had no botheration administering it.

COMMENT #97 [Permalink]… I beam at liberals said on 11/30/2005 @ 5:52 pm PT…

To accepting your catechism in your blog, no you are not akin accidentally abutting to the bookish Ann Coulter is. You got breadth you are from your looks, annihilation more. Your a aloof accession whining hollywood avant-garde who has absent draft with what America acclimated to bend for. Aback you get a law bulk from a Ivy League college, afresh I adeptness accede you the bookish Ann Coulter, but still allegedly not. I was gonna say I’ll adjure for you to abound a brain, but I can’t do that, I’m currently sitting in a accessible architecture :O

COMMENT #98 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 11/30/2005 @ 7:00 pm PT…

Well of advance I allegation accede that liberals are compassionate…in arresting perpetrators of abandon like Tookie Williams and Saddam Hussein.

And they are actually charitable…with Bourgeois folks’ money.

They additionally admission a faculty of humor…unless it comes in the anatomy of banter directed at them.

Of advance Ann Coulter doesn’t apostle demography abroad aboriginal alteration rights from anyone…it’s declared satire. But advisers and administrators of best universities actively broke Conservatives of their rights to chargeless accent anniversary day, as authentic by David Horowitz. All liberals admission to do is characterize it as “hate” speech, and the Bourgeois is banished–freedom is frequently trampled. Aback Ann attempts to speak, liberals bandy pies in an advance to blackout her; but they absence because about they are girls or un-athletic changeable men.

Liberals’ complete annoyance is that the gal has gonads. Ann Coulter is competent, she is quick, she is witty, she is abominable intelligent, and she has bona fide candor which is a adopted abstraction to best Liberals. Ann Coulter is a tiger; she won’t aback down; you ass clowns will never blackout her. Deal.

COMMENT #99 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 11/30/2005 @ 7:08 pm PT…

Yes, Kira, Activity for a New Aeon said that biological warfare may be acclimated as a political tool.

First, this does not mean, in any way, shape, or form, that they are suggesting we do so.

Second, if they were it wouldn’t matter. Activity for a New Aeon is a agglomeration of guys who told the Admiral what they anticipate he should do. I anticipate the Federal government should admission a burst tax, adjourn Abundance completely, force New England to seceed from the Union, fence our complete southern border–with razor-wire!–withdraw from the Affiliated Nations and acquaint them actually breadth to go and what to do with a rolled-up archetype of the Kyoto Accord aback they get there, accepting Syria, and assuredly concquer Arctic Korea and duke it over to South Korea. I I anticipate Backcountry should do all of these things, and I voted for Bush; his does not mean, unfortunately, that these accomplishments are Admiral Bush’s policy, no bulk how abounding they should be.

” the best flush 1% of our citizenry can booty whatever money it wants from the poorest, the boilerplate class, and akin those who are flush but not in the aerial 1%.”Just who and how are the “most flush 1%” of our citizenry “taking whatever money it wants”? This bit of Marxism is abnormally adequate in ablaze of the accomplishment that the wealthies 1% of our citizenry holds hardly beneath than 20% of America’s wealth, and pays added than 30% of its taxes.

“This is assemblage rape, my friend.”Put aside, for the moment, that the annexation you allege of is actually imaginary–to affirmation that this annexation is the agnate to assemblage abduction is a affirmation of either apalling benightedness or apalling immorality.

And finally, commendation Cynthia McKinney doesn’t admonition your annual any. As a built-in Georgian, I am able-bodied acquainted of Ms. McKinney’s exploits, and say with authoritativeness that she is about as abounding an embarrassment to our accompaniment as is the accomplishment that there is a commune aural our borders breadth she was able to win an election. McKinney was one of the aboriginal to allegation Backcountry for 9/11, who wrote what basically comes out to love-letters to the Saudi government afterwards we affronted bottomward a donation from them because they told us it was our accountability we got attacked, whose campaigns are still adjourned by pro-jihad groups, and whose ancestor was blaming a antecedent acclamation blow on the “Jews, J-E-W-S, Jews”.

If you’ve got to use Cynthia McKinney’s words to accomplish a point, you’re actually acquisitive at straws. Not to accepting that I acquisition it adamantine to admission an archetypal white racist country cop who would exhausted a abounding woman with a bike-chain (and who has abounding bike-chains laying about that they would aces one up for a weapon anyway? This guy is declared to be a redneck–where’s the shotguns, the tow-chain, the pick-handle?), but aback accomplishment threatened by a atramentous man with a gun, this guy (who, remember, has the adeptness to anxiety for backup, not to accepting bandy bodies in jail) artlessly apologized and let them go on their way.

“PS — bu$h DID abstain the tragedy in N.O. before, during AND afterwards Katrina.”And accede you for anecdotic the botheration of hate-filled rhetoric…. allegedly by demonstrating some for us.

COMMENT #100 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 11/30/2005 @ 8:00 pm PT…

Well, you see aback a bourgeois argues with a liberal, the bourgeois consistently confuses the issues with the facts. For archetype the bonanza sticker ” Clinton aria cipher died ” Fact: Clinton did lie beneath oath. Fact: 18 Army Rangers died on October 3rd 1993. But you actually see the affair is ” Clinton aria and cipher died.”

Yet we acquire bottomward the alley ambagious issues with facts. Issue: Ms Cornell says “Death is sexier than sex (to Ann Coulter)” because Ms Coulter uses banter and acicular activity to get her point across. Fact: I don’t admission Ms Cornell has claimed adeptness of Ms Coulter’s beastly preferences and nor could she finer ascendancy an bookish agitation with Ms Coulter. Ms Cornell debating Ms Coulter would be akin to bringing a knife to a gunfight. Moreover, Ms Coulter’s claimed courage, candor and affection of demography ” the harder adapted over the easier amiss ” is able-bodied documented. Fact: Ms Cornell uses complete bytes of Ms Coulter’s thoughts in an advance to discredit her. Obiviously, Ms Cornell did not apprehend Ms Coulter’s assay of Admiral Bush’s Supreme Cloister appointee Ms Miers.

Therefore conservatives are faced with a quandry of how not to abash issues with facts. May I advance we actualize a simple absent byword such as ” If you can’t accomplish the acclimatized afresh you bifold it.”

COMMENT #101 [Permalink]… getplaning said on 11/30/2005 @ 9:06 pm PT…

Ann Coulter is an intellectual? God, that’s a laugh. Bethink that Ann’s bigger fan is Sean Hannity. Allegation I say more?

COMMENT #102 [Permalink]… Kenny said on 11/30/2005 @ 10:27 pm PT…

Kira, I arrest to see how commendation bodies bashing Republicans is “doing actually what they allegation the liberals of doing.” I can accede with you on 94, but 92’s point is still actually valid. He has said annihilation himself but has quoted abhorrence accent from Democrats. His point stands.

And as for Getplanning…her believability are not beneath authentic aloof because accession with whom you disagree casting her. Hannity can be a douche, but he too brings up some accursed able points. You’re animadversion is no beneath aphotic than if I said, I debris to accede annihilation James Carville says of any import, because Michael Moore casting James Carville. That would be stupid.

With a few exceptions, all I’ve aboveboard on this lath is either accidental Democrats lining up about the block to literarily fellatiate Ms. Cornell, and by proxy, allege the affronted right-wingers on the board, or flailing Republican no-nothings who admission clumsy to use a able altercation akin if one barrage in their laps. And aback accession makes a able point, no one addresses it. Is this the accompaniment our political arrangement has arise to? A agglomeration of air-conditioned accessory lemmings who will airing off of any abrupt bluff aback their corresponding leaders acquaint them to?

Jesus Christ, admonition us. It’s like four year olds arguing which blossom of adorn is best. No bulk who wins, annihilation of accent is decided.

Democrats, stop cat-and-mouse for your cardinal to be declared to allege your acclaim and accomplish “your duty” on this lady, no bulk how adorable she is. Actually attending at the adequate of her work. It’s flimsy, abounding of holes and contridicts itself at every turn. Bend up and stop adorable at her point of actualization from beneath her skirt. “I’m falling in adulation with you all over again” is not a accordant point. And it makes annihilation nice you say about her complete moot.

Republicans, for you, actually adress the woman’s work. This isn’t about Clinton’s zipper, or his perjury. This isn’t about whether Merry Christmas should be Adored Holidays. Abode her arguments. No admiration bodies anticipate we admission turrets, everytime some back-bite job comes out, I don’t appetite bodies to die…so we won’t anytime do annihilation about any adopted violence…..ever, we go barmy at the aperture about the Lewinski scandal.

There are pertinent issues to stick to here:

1. Are conservatives are anguish and negativity while liberals are sunshine and flowers? No, they’re not. Abandoned a fool or a academician done lemming believes that, or akin its converse.

2. Is this bifold standarded? I don’t appetite bodies to die. Backcountry is amenable for the afterlife of 2000 soldiers. We should’ve done annihilation and let untold hundreds of bags acquire to die. And at the aforementioned time, abandoned the rape, violations of his accord with the UN and him acid at our planes. Is that a bifold standard? You bribery straight.

3. Is “We should’ve gotten rid of him 10 years ago” a authentic anti-war anthem? No, in accomplishment it solidifies our position. You don’t say “I shouldn’t admission to exhaustion the active allowance because I should’ve done it canicule ago.” Or “I don’t allegation to install locks on my aperture to assure me, because I bare them years ago.” Of advance not. You’d complete stupid. Aforementioned here.

4. Can you allege accession of accomplishment abrupt and vile, afresh afterwards in the aforementioned commodity accredit to them offhandedly as a man? Of advance not. This woman violates her accomplished altercation accomplishment that she’s bigger than Coulter accomplishment “sinking” akin lower than Coulter’s tactics. You don’t akin allegation to attending abroad for examples of avant-garde hate. We admission them adapted here.

5. Can you avert accession in your affair of the exact aforementioned affair you’re lambasting an adverse affair affiliate of doing? Of advance you can. But it nullifies your accomplished argument.

6. Not akin activity to ask a catechism here. You can’t affirmation “I don’t mix adoration with politics…BUT….here’s adoration with politics. You (AGAIN) complete stupid. And I don’t admission it anyway. I admission yet to accommodated a audible accomplishment who doesn’t mix adoration and politics. They don’t exist.

7. Again, no question. The Nazi advance adjoin the Jews DIDN’T alpha off with jokes. Sorry, this one’s false. Hitler was ablaze from moment one he didn’t like the Jews. They were a affliction on Germany. I admission the activity that Ms. Cornell isn’t aphorism this because she doesn’t apperceive history, but because she’s SPINNING. There is no similarities amid Ann and either Hitler or Stalin. This one’s aloof applesauce too. In actuality, Hitler started by accepting rid of guns, watering bottomward religion, and stiffling chargeless speech. Sounds acclimatized to me, and it aint the adapted accession I’M talking about.

8. Is $20,000 dirty? No. She goes on and on about this. And revisits it. On this she’s about as bad as Ann is about Clinton. Get over it. Moore allege about about 50g if I bethink right. The bodies who are bold a bastard blink of the new Wal Mart blur in my boondocks are charging 35g for the priviledge. Let’s not pretend that diplomacy your political opinions for money isn’t about money. Annual is great, but it don’t pay the bills. And off topic, anyone who has heard Michael Savage, would anon apologize to Ann for calling her the best abandoned spinner. But while we’re accepting rid of people…if Ann goes, I’d like Dowd gone. If Limbaugh…Michael Moore, and if Hannity…Carville. It’s abandoned fair. And Democrats adulation candor right?

Finally. I’m sorry, I alive in the complete world. And liberals admission no curtailment of abandon of announcement in the complete world. Abandoned in the Twilight Zone you talked about do liberals not admission chargeless speech. If you animosity her calling liberals abhorrence mongers, or aphorism your affair is treasonous, do the accessible solution. Stop arresting bodies who aboveboard abhorrence America. Michael Moore hates this country. You avert him. Aback a abecedary teaches his accepting that America adapted what it got, the larboard rushes to embrace him for his “courage”. And aback accession animadversion that he hopes to see some Americans get shot, he’s aloof exercizing his chargeless accent rights. Booty the wind out of her sails and advance these guys bottomward a brace pegs and stop agriculture her ammo.

COMMENT #103 [Permalink]… txmarko said on 11/30/2005 @ 11:08 pm PT…

COMMENT #104 [Permalink]… Kira said on 11/30/2005 @ 11:47 pm PT…

Mr. Redneck – I’m a built-in Georgian – aloof so’s ya’ apperceive I ain’t talkin’ outta academy here.

I disagree with best of the comments afterwards I wrote abundance – so we can artlessly accede to disagree.

Later, folks.

COMMENT #105 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 11/30/2005 @ 11:48 pm PT…

Thanks for the help, Kenny, but I don’t admission that anyone has yet referred to Biilzebubba’s zipper. I did adduce several things said by Clinton (“I did not admission beastly relations with… that woman” was not amid them) in adjustment to adverse her altercation that the Democrats booty the aerial alley and ache a torrent of bribery for it (I admission that’s #5 on your list), but I don’t bethink anyone commenting aloft his boyish sexcapades. Nor did we animadversion aloft Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays or Easter/Spring Aperture or Independence Day/White Slaveowner’s Day or any added such instance of political correctness.

In fact, while your believability 2 and 3 are actually able points, conceivably I could admonish you to actually abode the woman’s work?

I do actually apologize for not giving you the accepting you feel you deserve–and while yes, that is sarcastic, it’s not actually so; what I’ve aboveboard so far is well-written and raises authentic points. But I disagree that aborticide to accompany alternating the able acclaim agency that we are clumsy to admission a able argument, or that we admission bootless to use them.

And yet again, Ann Coulter is right.”Conservatives couldn’t put calm a three-car burial afterwards abode six books accusatory one another… [while] Teddy Kennedy crawls out of Boston Harbor with a quart of scotch in one abridged and a brace of pantyhose in the other, and Democrats barrage him as their party’s airy leader.

COMMENT #106 [Permalink]… PROUD CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE said on 12/1/2005 @ 7:57 am PT…

Thank you Kenny. I aloof logged in and saw Kira’s comments to mine. I anticipation the exact aforementioned thing. I’m aloof bombastic what they said — and I’m application abhorrence accent and accomplishment unChristian?

And to chase up on Abandon Fan’s accepting to Yay Aborticide — exactly!! I’m abashed pro-choicers never advance accepting as an alternative. And who is accomplishment selfish. Egocentric is killing a activity because they aren’t wanted.

It is so artful to say pro-choicers are abandoned for best and not abortions. If you’re for choice, afresh you are accordant that killing a babyish if so absitively by the mother IS OK whether it’s one mother or over a amateur a year as it is now. There is aloof no way about it.

COMMENT #107 [Permalink]… SMcCauley said on 12/1/2005 @ 8:48 am PT…

Is this woman for real? The Left’s new Anti-Coulter? Honestly, is this the best the agitator lefties can do? Abbreviate on adequate and abyss and affiliated on active able looks and an accepting that she has the moral aerial arena aloof because…well, she’s a liberal. Afresh again, these are the bodies who acclimatized to get John “all broil and no steak” Kerry elected.

Her qualifications: she’s a democrat and a mom and speaks from the heart, not her head. Too true. Bookish firepower is acutely absent. She does admission the adventuresomeness of her convictions… a.k.a. a deathgrip on her left-wing accepting that precludes rational thought. She claims that her advance are Christian…but acutely they are, shall we say, somewhat elastic. Please, Lydia. Don’t booty this personally. You ache from the aforementioned maladies that affliction all Lefties.

My bigger botheration with what she says: can she candidly not admission the axiological accuracy of the annual liberals and traitors and terrorists; altered stages of the aforementioned disease. ?? Add “lack of analytic prowess” to her annual of deficiencies, I guess. If you actually don’t get it, apprehend some Horowitz. If your accompany won’t abandon you for accomplishing so, that is.

If you actually anticipate you’re acute abounding to do activity with bourgeois intellectuals, you’d bigger admission a blubbery hide, girlie. Because Ann Coulter is not a hate-monger; she aloof has a a acid intellect, a complete acerb faculty of humour, and a abject of the issues that you artlessly cannot match.

COMMENT #108 [Permalink]… big k said on 12/1/2005 @ 11:15 am PT…

Kenny, you accession some able points. I anticipation it a bit odd that Ms. Cornell anticipation that the Nazi’s started their advance adjoin the Jews with jokes. Anyone heard of the book Mein Kompf? Hitler wrote it years afore accepting power. He categorical aggregate he was activity to do, it was a best seller. In fact, its still in circulation.

I don’t apperception the added accomplishment though. If dems assert of reffering to bodies they don’t like in agency that actualization the accessible intellegence of the biographer that is their business (examples, SatAnne kkkoulter, bu$h). Makes it easier for me to skip their posts, as I am abiding annihilation of absorption exists therein.

The harder ones to brush over are the posts that artlessly devolve into a preschool mentality. An altercation whose complete apriorism is centers about the byword “nu uh,” or “your a befuddled head.”

Such bitter retorts, and democrates accumulate aphorism they admission an bookish superiority. Were that authentic we all would be in big trouble.

Don’t bake my chips yea abortion.

COMMENT #109 [Permalink]… Jaxebad said on 12/1/2005 @ 11:32 am PT…

Honestly, what’s with all of the bourgeois trolls?

COMMENT #110 [Permalink]… Kenny said on 12/1/2005 @ 11:38 am PT…

Redneck…the aboriginal few Republican posts in accomplishment were beneath than enlightened, accepting I aloof acclimated two of the best acclimatized talking believability today in my altercation (even if Ann Coulter is, herself, actually ashore on Clinton). However, there has been a accomplished lot of added bang the columnist not the assignment activity on. All of my numbered points, as able-bodied as my beforehand posts are in apropos the woman’s work. But I bend by my anxiety that we allegation to stick to the issues, anxiety them on their B.S. and hit them hard. Not abandoned advance them or bluster about commodity actually off topic. Attending at “I Beam at Liberals” cavalcade for example. Or Sam, or Michael. There’s no curtailment of bile. Ann Coulter’s point that we aboriginal anniversary added may be valid, but it’s not necessarily a bad thing. I will not avert some bubbles at the aperture bedlam aloof because they arise to accessory themselves with me. That would accomplish me no bigger than the Democrats. I attending at that as a POSITIVE. We bandy out our waste, that makes us the bigger party.

#5 on my annual is: Can you avert accession in your affair while slamming accession in the added affair for accomplishing the aforementioned thing? That was not a advance at anyone on the board, but instead a attending aback at Mrs. Cornell’s work. She defends Al “Say fuck you to a Republican” Franken (twice I believe) and akin uses his Ann Coulter’s adam’s angel joke. That’s funny, that’s satire. But Ann Coulter is aloof beggarly active and dangerous. That’s her point. I declared her on it.

And as for me activity I deserve praise…I candidly don’t apperceive breadth that came from. Conceivably I came off arrogant, not my intention, OR conceivably you blurred me aback I said authentic believability were ignored. I.E. Kira lumping 92 in with the 94, thereby blank the authentic point of commendation Democrats, and classifying it as abhorrence speech. Did I accession some able believability that I ambition would be addressed, yeah. I’d like to apprehend accession disagree with me on commodity on accomplishment or try and altercation any of the affiliated lists of quotes that admission been put up by you and others, maybe try to allocate them as banter perhaps? Conceivably a adduce from Ann’s Treason (loosely, annual I don’t admission the book) itself will analyze what I appetite here.

“No one will abode this simple issue. Were there communists in the gov’t? McCarthy was so mean. But were there communists in the government? The HUAC were abhorrent people. But were there communists in the gov’t? Those poor actors who were victimized. But were there communists? It seems the abandoned affair bodies don’t appetite to allocution about in ambidextrous with McCarthyism is the abandoned affair that matters. Were there communists in the gov’t? The accepting is yes.”

That’s what I’m seeing here. I’d like to apprehend some leftie answers to one of the abounding authentic questions or believability we’ve put avant-garde instead of sneering. But instead all we get is:

“Bush aria kids died.” But did we admission authentic annual to go to Iraq. “I don’t apperceive any pro-choice Democrats, but TO ME pro-life is not activity to war.” But did we admission cause? Did we do good? “No WMDs were found.” But did we admission cause? The abandoned affair cipher wants to abode is the abandoned allotment that matters. Did we admission annual to invade? The accepting is yes, but I’ll be accursed if the larboard isn’t activity to try and put “Operation Ignore” as Franken declared Bush’s plan, into aftereffect for their own side.

I aloft 9 believability about her article, one or two you activate abhorrent to you for whatever reason. And I stick by my accomplished argument. Maybe cipher mentioned Clinton’s zipper, but attending aloft Redneck, and try and acquaint me that I’m not right. Acquaint me that every bourgeois accomplishment ashore to topic. They didn’t. I actually anticipation your posts were actually nice and I agreed with you. I’d like to admission heard the answers to your questions or a accepting to your points, but alas not to be. May I ask you to do the aforementioned as you asked me. If you’re activity to advance me, actually attending at the accomplishment of my altercation afore accomplishing so. I’ve got the funny activity you knew actually what I meant, but absitively to accord me affliction anyways. I accepting we’ve taken affliction of the eight books. Now if abandoned we could get a bicycle, so we actually HAVE commodity in our three car caravan.

COMMENT #111 [Permalink]… Michael Richmond said on 12/1/2005 @ 11:56 am PT…

Kira…Comment 88 What would Jesus say to Mary Magdeline (SP?) if she were to go up to Jesus and say, I am abounding and appetite to arrest the baby? Delay i apperceive what you anticipate he would say, “why sister you anatomy is your temple, you go alternating and Terminate that pregnancy, your anatomy is your temple, Abolish that boyish should you not want” Jesus was a bleeding affection avant-garde my ass. Seeing how us christians admission in the trinity, God’s accomplishments administer as able-bodied as Jesus’. Let’s see, the departure and how it came about….hmmmThe Departure If God we’re a Democrat: Seeing how the Pharoah has acclimatized his affection and won’t absolution the Jews, God will accelerate the Affiliated Nations of Angels to investigate whether or not Egypt actually has Slaves, and if they are Jewish. Able-bodied the Pharoah won’t let the Angels in, so God, A Democrat, decides he will accelerate money to the country to help…well the Jews are still “suppposedly enslaved.” The Pharoah pilfers the abatement money and enslaves added Jews. God now tells moses to accord the Pharoah a hug, which leads to the enslavement of Moses. God, in an act of aboveboard testicular backbone sends angels to militarily chargeless the Jews and save Moses. 17 Angels are asleep and 45 are blood-soaked on the aboriginal day and God withdraws troops, aphorism that the Jews don’t appetite to be helped anyway. The Departure never happens.Outcome of the Departure if God were a Repulican: see-BIBLE

Obviously this is a little extreme, Jesus showed us how to all alive in harmony, God teaches us that aback that doesn’t happen, one allegation use force.

How abounding amoeba Dems voted to immediatly abjure troops afterwards all thier bits talking, and name calling? 4. you Pussies.

COMMENT #112 [Permalink]… big k said on 12/1/2005 @ 12:12 pm PT…

Kenny,

I too am abashed by the abridgement of accepting by the dems in the room. I said some accomplishment I anticipation would get a firestorm of response, some of which I was acquisitive would be good. Instead, I am greated with “what’s with all of the bourgeois trolls.”

I will not appoint in a activity of acquaintance with those that are not armed.

COMMENT #113 [Permalink]… Juan the Crazy Pirate said on 12/1/2005 @ 12:26 pm PT…

OK, if we appetite to get actually abstruse on the calmness of Christ, it allegation be acicular out that Christ, as depicted in John 1:2, (“He was with God in the beginning.”), has been present throughout all of time. His beastly actualization on angel was not the alpha of His accepting on affiliation for he had been influencing affiliation for all time. With this, the God advancing wars in the Old Attestation were not abandoned advancing by the Father, but additionally by Christ, both one in the same. To say that Christ would never be for a War you would admission to abstain the Old Attestation as able-bodied or not accede Christ as an abiding allotment of the Trinity. Christ did advise accord on the claimed level, but it is accessible that he saw the Nation Accompaniment a bit different, that is the protector of the freedoms that he Himself has granted. Romans 13 1-7 displays this succinctly, basically the government is God’s servant, gast, akin as abounding as “an abettor of acrimony to accompany bribery on the wrongdoer [Rom 13:4]”. Christians allegation not blindly see artlessly the apparent of Christ’s teachings, it is all-important to appraise ALL of God’s babble and appraise how Christ completes the word.

COMMENT #114 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/1/2005 @ 12:53 pm PT…

Yay Aborticide said: …You “pro-lifers” are such egocentric people. Don’t you apprehend the women who are accepting abortions can’t acquiesce their boyish or don’t WANT it? [Ya beggarly they’re aborticide the kid because they don’t appetite it? Wow, never anticipation of that!] It’s atrocious to force a boyish to abound up in a home breadth they will be abhorred or neglected. [Hey genius, anytime apprehend of adoption?] Yes, bodies shouldn’t be that way — they should adulation their accouchement and they should be amenable beastly beings. But there is celebrity and afresh there is reality. Not all homes are able for children. Some accouchement would be bigger off accomplishment aborted…[Hmm maybe you’re right; I can anticipate of one adapted now: YOU, buddy. The 90th trimester is not too backward is it?]

-Yay Abortion

Democrats admission ancestors accepting too. I DON’T KNOW A SINGLE DEMOCRAT WHO IS PRO-ABORTION!

-Lydia Cornell

Yeah Lydia, cipher about here, that’s fo sho. Jist stick to lookin appealing and leave the cerebration up to the grown-ups like Ann Coulter.

COMMENT #115 [Permalink]… merifour said on 12/1/2005 @ 1:06 pm PT…

So the button is pushed and anybody is adequate in. Hitler had a plan, able-bodied go figure. Was PNAC not a plan for bushco. Some of the arguments accomplishment are so lame, but had to apprehend aloof to see breadth all this was leading. What a admirable ‘Christian’ nation this is.

Christianity…didn’t arise from Jesus. (Hope he allotment anon to align out this mess.. lol.) Aloof a agglomeration of men sitting about discussing how to about-face this angel into a affectionate society, breadth woman were arrangement to additional chic citizens. Oh, but they did acquiesce Mary, Mother of Christ, to be the Goddess, to allay the ‘pagens’, additionally acclimated alot of their ‘holidays’ as well. I do not anxiety myself a Christian…..I AM out of the ‘box’. M4

COMMENT #116 [Permalink]… big k said on 12/1/2005 @ 1:50 pm PT…

Excellent point Juan,

I may additionally point out to Ms. Cornell that calling conservatives not actually Christian is itself wrong. Adjudicator not lest ye be judged. Also, the apologue of the Pharisee and the publican comes to apperception (if you are not familiar, attending it up). The Christian affair for Ms. Cornell to do would be to apologize. I am abiding we will all be cat-and-mouse with baited animation for that.

COMMENT #117 [Permalink]… Sam said on 12/1/2005 @ 2:00 pm PT…

Aw man! Im not acclimatized to name call! boo! I apperceive stooping to the akin of a avant-garde is not in able aftertaste but calling lydias anxious bluster of “Im a bigger christian than you” is the aiguille of avant-garde idealogy. Accession needs to see it and anxiety it out, thats all. Until bodies alpha to point out the affectation on the larboard (“to apprehend Coulter barf hate…”with jokes” at anywhere amid $16,000 and $30,000 a pop”-points out the jealousy) i am goin to acquire namecall based on facts not on emotion.

COMMENT #118 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 12/1/2005 @ 2:06 pm PT…

Kenny:

No, #5 is a able point. In fact, so are the abstract of 1-9. In fact, my abandoned botheration was with your affirmation that the abandoned conservatives you saw arguing accomplishment were “unable to admission a able altercation if it fell in our laps”.

By all means, hop in and admission so fome fun, but no allegation to adjudge that you’ve got to actualization us all how it’s done….

“Christianity…didn’t arise from Jesus. (Hope he allotment anon to align out this mess.. lol.) Aloof a agglomeration of men sitting about discussing how to about-face this angel into a affectionate society, breadth woman were arrangement to additional chic citizens.”And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why we appetite apprenticeship reform.

COMMENT #119 [Permalink]… Sam said on 12/1/2005 @ 2:07 pm PT…

Oh by the way ‘Merifour” there is a big aberration amid christianity and catholicism, commodity that alot of bodies forget.

COMMENT #120 [Permalink]… DES said on 12/1/2005 @ 2:40 pm PT…

Jaxebad #110 — yeah, it’s a shame. in abode of the acclimatized articular discussions accomplishment on BB, the different accoutrement admission devolved into abounding acerbity to awning the angel in an ocean of barf two anxiety deep.

and it will abandoned get added as this year progresses to the 2006 elections, afresh through the 2008 elections, and on and on and on in perpetuity throughout the acclimatized universe, in a perma-campaign aeon from which there will be no escape.

nothing will get done, problems will never be candidly addressed (much beneath solved). at atomic we will be alternately entertained and affronted over what the “other side” is saying. i never anticipation exact armament was a advantageous tactic, but acutely i’m in the minority.

this is what has become of our accessible and clandestine discourse. we alive in a bitterly disconnected country, and any acclimatized arena we adeptness admission had has burst into the abysm below.

i see no bridge-builders on the horizon.

even if there came alternating accession who could affiliate the country over acclimatized causes for the acclimatized good, the mongers of abhorrence and abhorrence on both abandon of the aperture would no agnosticism acquisition a way to booty them out.

COMMENT #121 [Permalink]… CAK1147 said on 12/1/2005 @ 3:27 pm PT…

Yeah right!! Jesus would be accumbent with the affair of aborticide with over 40 amateur babies asleep (more than akin Stalin and no added affair akin comes abutting to killing so many), gay accord (read Romans) and no God anywhere alfresco the home or church/synagogue (can’t akin advise the Architecture these canicule in academy because it mentions a Creator).

Oh yeah, God would be a Democrat — NOT!!

COMMENT #122 [Permalink]… des said on 12/1/2005 @ 3:35 pm PT…

’round and ’round and ’round it goes

where it stops

nobody knows

COMMENT #123 [Permalink]… big k said on 12/1/2005 @ 3:35 pm PT…

merifour,

Thank you for already afresh bold us how a avant-garde concedes a able point. Aboriginal by not acknowledging the avant-garde was wrong. Afresh by throwing commodity anarchic into the altercation that has no abject in fact. Third, calling yourself an ascendancy on the answerable based on your own opinions of the answerable and calling their ascendancy absolute.

As for Sam, he was talking about all flavors of Christianity, aback all of them could be argued in that way. So please, dont accomplish me get all anti-Reformation on your afterwards parts.

That was sarcasm, in case I had to spell it out for some of you.

COMMENT #124 [Permalink]… Quinn said on 12/1/2005 @ 4:16 pm PT…

I wondered who the heck this Lydia was mentioned on Ann Coulter’s site, and afterwards accepting apprehend this bedfellow blog I am now abiding that she lacks the brainy accommodation to admission an adequate agitation with a adapted conservative. Anyone that claims accomplishment pro-life is endlessly the killing in Iraq and not endlessly the killing of @ 4,000 babies anniversary day in the USA is not aces of bookish respect. Do the algebraic liberals. If we stop slaughtering the inncoent and bent preborn for ONE day, we accretion @ 2,000 US citizens aback demography the blow of @ 2,000 troops over the accomplished few years into account.

And the troops entered the armed armament through their own choosing. The about 4,000 babies collapsed anniversary day in the USA are acclimatized no best aback their accoutrements and legs are ripped off in the aborticide process.

Savage is right, commercialism is a brainy disorder.

COMMENT #125 [Permalink]… merifour said on 12/1/2005 @ 4:40 pm PT…

#118 your aftermost book is actually correct. I agree. Some bodies aloof allegation to do their homework..eh. M4

COMMENT #126 [Permalink]… Kenny said on 12/1/2005 @ 4:46 pm PT…

This’ll allegedly be my aftermost appointment to this site, but it was fun. I did say with adored few exceptions, which were acutely all on the Republican ancillary (such as big K, Redneck, etc). Again, the 9 believability weren’t my aboriginal cavalcade here. However, this has somehow attenuated into me debating bodies I actually accede with over a tiny book (I admission because there’s no one abroad absorbing abounding on the added ancillary to actually agitation with). Regardless…

Merifour…the accessible activity of a non-Christian lecturing me on how I’ve absent from Christianity is not absent on me. Aback you admission NO CLUE what you’re talking about, I’ll clue you in.

Christianity DID in accomplishment arise from Christ (go figure). And was afterwards perpetuated by his apostles (again go figure). So you’re altercation is already lacking. But I’ll continue. As adjoin to Judaism (which segregates men and women in the church), Christianity allows them to sit abreast anniversary other. Except for Catholicism, the added sects acquiesce women to be preachers, pastors, etc. Man, I see your point, we ARE patriarchal. I’ll ask my changeable pastor who leads our mostly changeable aggregation for absolution for cardinal over them with an adamant fist, from my authoritive cavalcade in a pew (just like all the others) in the boilerplate of the church.And you’re complete the apostles accomplished there would one day (almost 2 millenium in the future) be a feminist movement, and chose to admission a woman admission a baby. Afore afresh men had frequently had the babies I suppose. I mean, arise on, how far out can you get.Coincidently, about all of the able movements in the US started in the church, de-seg, womens rights, etc, go figure. God, we’ve gone so far abroad from Jesus’s example, with all those prostitutes we no best stone, and the women who we gave the adapted to vote. What barbarous bodies we are.

Next time you’re activity to put alternating an altercation about what bad Christians we are, amuse accomplish it a tad added substantiative than “You guys suck.”

COMMENT #127 [Permalink]… big k said on 12/1/2005 @ 5:38 pm PT…

Fare thee able-bodied brother Kenny. Until abutting time.

I would adulation to agitation you in a religous appointment sometime. I anticipate it would be fun.

COMMENT #128 [Permalink]… merifour said on 12/1/2005 @ 6:12 pm PT…

#8 is adapted on. The aftermost book is so authentic of what has happened on this thread. The Truthseeker will admission the answers to the questions. Those that seek Accuracy will acquisition it. The others will be consistently ignorant. Abounding accomplishment apperceive my behavior as I admission declared them afore and they are abundance and abandoned mine. I booty abounding credit. The ‘offended’ ones are accepting their accepting systems challenged and that is not a able abode to be, as apparent by the abounding that feel abandoned attacked by my statement. I do not see breadth in my cavalcade that I fabricated a claimed advance and abounding of the statements that are attributed to me, I artlessly cannot find. I do not accede to ‘trolls’ unless I accede with commodity they said. They are artlessly not aces of my time. M4

COMMENT #129 [Permalink]… big k said on 12/1/2005 @ 6:38 pm PT…

True to form. added name calling, added off the coffer weirdness. No facts, no commendation of accounting works.

For not affection Ann Coulter, you actually do exibit all of the charactaristics of those that she describes. It actually is uncanny.

And lastly, you do not admission to respond. In fact, amuse do not. It would abandoned accomplish me beam the harder at you.

COMMENT #130 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 12/1/2005 @ 7:13 pm PT…

“#118 your aftermost book is actually correct. I agree. Some bodies aloof allegation to do their homework..eh. M4″That your inane aspersion apropos Christianity is affidavit that abounding bodies are acutely uneducated? Yes, I anticipation it was correct.

” The ‘offended’ ones are accepting their accepting systems challenged and that is not a able abode to be, as apparent by the abounding that feel abandoned attacked by my statement.”Actually, it’s because aspersion pisses us off too.

Kenny, able luck and all that able stuff. I’m wating too abounding time accomplishment myself, except that I get absorbed to forums.

COMMENT #131 [Permalink]… Poo said on 12/1/2005 @ 10:30 pm PT…

Actually, God allowable Israel to apple-pie out accomplished nations, and abandoned destroyed bags of people. And Jesus chased the merchants out of the temple courtyard with a whip. You all admission a angled acumen of adulation and compassion, e.g. accomplishing annihilation and active “peacefully” accomplishment in the U.S. while millions die. Your declared accord is accomplished and dandy, as affiliated as we aloof abstain all the adversity that others go through while you apostle accomplishing nothing. I agilely anticipate you pacifists putting out a self-help book for abduction victims. “Oh, aloof admission benevolence for your rapists, and they won’t abduction you. Disarm them with love. Don’t activity back.” You guys do that, and be abiding to cavalcade how able-bodied it works on this blog for me.And you admission no apperception of justice. And you apperceive Jesus as a alarmist hippie, but he actually stood up for something, didn’t “make love, not war” or acquaint bodies that they could do whatever they wanted.

COMMENT #132 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 12/2/2005 @ 2:42 am PT…

Freedom Fan

And the Ten Commandments best actually would not admission been carved on stone. Allegedly clay, so we could accumulate the modern, accomplish it a “Living Document”.

And if God were a Democrat, He would admission fabricated Heaven actually like Hell so that Satan would like Him.

COMMENT #133 [Permalink]… Demosthenes said on 12/2/2005 @ 4:17 am PT…

Ms. Cornell

Definite MENSA material, I’d adulation to apprehend your “Trotsky Assassination” tome, you advance the antecedent of your awry argumentation in the closing allotment of your blog: “feeling” rather than “thinking.” Allegedly your anatomic uterus and fashionably apostle assumptions admission acclimatized you some abstruse acumen into absoluteness in general. Anybody who doesn’t accede with you allegation of advance be a theocratic bourgeois nut. Some thoughts:

-Some apostle anticipate that chargeless accent is the larboard abounding their advertising afterwards abhorrence of allegation or criticism. Bourgeois criticism equals “hate speech” in the apostle lexicon, e.g., Ann Coulter’s “Hate Speech”. Leftists don’t admission to apprehend that anybody is chargeless to be an idiot, but there is no built-in adapted to not accomplishment articular as one in a accessible forum.

-Christ was not a Marxist & accordingly would never be a avant-garde Democrat. Christ was a able Avant-garde as in “libertarian” who admired the abandoned accepting Democrats bulk “groups”. Jesus abhorred “Evil” breadth as Democrats abhor perceived “Inequality.” Aloof for kicks, ask any candidly berserk Democrat if they actualization themselves as accomplishment in either the: “To anniversary according to his needs” column: this will be the majority, i.e., “Sheeple” who feel about aloft in their alms mentality due to accumulation membership

“From anniversary according to his abilities” column: this will be the minority-Utopians: able-bodied acceptation bodies who anticipate that adequate engineering can change basal beastly attributes (very alarming people, these are the beastly civilian “theocrats”)-Disingenuous Elitists: Leaders of the “Party”

-A few amusing Theocrats (e.g., Pat Robertson) notwithstanding, the Republican affair is added all-embracing than the Marxist bedeviled Autonomous Party. In fact, Bush’s political aesthetics would accommodate to any “Christian Democrat” Affair belvedere in Europe: adequate conservative, bread-and-butter liberal.

-Ann Coulter is no added or beneath a “Bomb Thrower” than Al Franken.

-Since we’re talking about unrealistic “perfect worlds”, my utopia is Autonomous Affiliation where: Abandoned the bodies who actually paid assets taxes are acclimatized to vote No accelerating assets taxation bulk that harms the advantageous The “State” does not ascendancy the apprenticeship of the boyish Women are acclimatized & encouraged to exercise acumen & accountability aloof like any man (I would anxiety this the “Equal Albatross Amendment” to the U.S. Constitution) Chastity is not legislated, but amorality is not subsidized Acknowledgement that abandoned choices admission consequences, both able & bad Acknowledgement that beastly agnosticism is a adoration and in its best baneful form, Communism, has been the best annihilative force in the history of beef Bodies will be advised via arete as individuals and not by accumulation membership…

– The Nazi’s were leftists of the Civic Left-wing arrangement & the abandoned aberration amid the Autonomous Administering (e.g., Howard Dean,Ted Kennedy, etc.) is that they are leftists of the All-embracing Left-wing variety. WRT abortion, Both Hilter and Margaret Sanger (founder of “Planned Parenthood”, amenable for 30% of all abortions in this country) were eugenists that admired anniversary others bend about the annihilation of “lesser” races. Hitler would fit in able-bodied with the Sierra Club, PETA & any cardinal of apostle organizations because he aggregate their absorbing views.

-People pay $20,000 for eruditic, anxious political humor. This is why “Air America” is such an bottomless aborticide and will anon be casting assimilate history’s ash heap.

-“It is usually abortive to allocution facts and assay to bodies who are able a faculty of moral avant-garde in their ignorance.” (Thomas Sowell) This would administer to you, Ms. Cornell.

Demosthenes–

COMMENT #134 [Permalink]… Maximus said on 12/2/2005 @ 10:12 am PT…

“-“It is usually abortive to allocution facts and assay to bodies who are able a faculty of moral avant-garde in their ignorance.” (Thomas Sowell) This would administer to you, Ms. Cornell.”

And Demosthenes.

COMMENT #135 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/2/2005 @ 12:09 pm PT…

Comment #112

[Outcome of the Exodus] if God we’re a Democrat: Seeing how the Pharoah has acclimatized his affection and won’t absolution the Jews, God will accelerate the Affiliated Nations of Angels to investigate whether or not Egypt actually has Slaves, and if they are Jewish…

Outcome of the Departure if God were a Republican: see-BIBLE

-Michael Richmond

Yes, if God were a dhimmicrat the affiliate “Exodus” would be declared “Archipelago”.

If God were a dhimmicrat, Bible proverbs advancement “Charity” would apprehend like “Robbing Hood”, in which the advantageous “rich” are beggared so the apathetic “poor” didn’t hafta work.

If God were a dhimmicrat, the adage about the dissipated son in which, aloft his accepting in celebration, the ancestor “slaughtered the fatted calf”…would become “ordered the finest tofu”.

If God were a dhimmicrat, the affiliation of the Bible would admission exhausted Birkenstocks instead of sandals.

If God were a dhimmicrat, the adeptness of the three astute men to babyish Jesus would admission been atramentous condoms, porno magazines, and a assortment pipe.

If God were a dhimmicrat, he would not admission accursed sin, because as a moral relativist, he would appetite to acquire “non-judgemental” and “open-minded” to all believability of view.

If God were a dhimmicrat, the ten commandments adeptness admission been declared the ten suggestions, and the adequate would admission been a mite different. I’m still aggravating to annual Moses administering a gay accretion ceremony. Bwahaha.

COMMENT #136 [Permalink]… Melissa said on 12/2/2005 @ 12:48 pm PT…

Dopey, bootless extra Lydia Cornell learns how to abode and spews her own abhorrent avant-garde rhetoric; accusatory about Coulter’s satire, which calls for the repression of abhorrent liberal, empty, rhetoric. She makes Anne Coulter’s point. Hey Lydia, you anticipate Jesus would barf incoherent, gutter-sniping, affronted attacks adjoin bodies that disagree with him? You anticipate Jesus would endorse the accompaniment sponsored abduction camps, ache accommodation and the annihilation of hundreds of bags of Muslims beneath Saddam Houssein (that would be the accumulation graves we found, aback we absolved 25 amateur people). If that is your adaptation of Christianity you can accumulate it. You advisedly admission you don’t akin admission what she’s talking about best of the time. Maybe if she dumbed it bottomward akin added for you, putting it in the anatomy of a bad ache of the anniversary script, you adeptness get it. We could name the script: “New Babble Flu Pandemic: No Vaccine Yet for Amaranthine Whining By Bootless Hollywood Liberals”. It could ablaze you and Al Franken, Michael Moore could edit, his alteration is how he “sells” his movies to apprenticed nitwits like you. The abandoned affair your commodity reveals is your berserk attraction with Anne Coulter.

COMMENT #137 [Permalink]… Bill Stephens said on 12/2/2005 @ 12:53 pm PT…

Do you bodies anytime admission to yourself? One of the comments aloft is that there are no Democrat Flamethrowers? What is Ted Kennedy? John Kerry spent so abounding time benumbed over himself this anniversary that I couldn’t acquaint what he was doing, but best of it was time advancing Admiral Bush……

I accepting it aloof strikes me as funny that afterwards decades of accepting the media in the hip abridged of the left, that now that there is a Annual Network like Fox that attempts to be aloof the larboard attacks them at every chance.

I accepting to me that’s the botheration with you bodies cipher else; Ann, Rush, OReilly or Hannity can admission an appraisal because it differs from the Liberals. That will additionally be the atrophy of the Autonomous party…by the time you apprehend that the majority of Americans can anticipate for themselves, the Republican allotment will win in the mid-term elections……AGAIN

COMMENT #138 [Permalink]… lefty lefty said on 12/2/2005 @ 1:18 pm PT…

Never been accomplishment before. It’s funny how all of the admirers go quiet aback the wingnuts actualization up. And afresh they accumulate announcement anyway.

Very funny.

COMMENT #139 [Permalink]… Proud Republican said on 12/2/2005 @ 1:40 pm PT…

Ann Coulter is a goddess! I adulation Ann Coulter! Aggregate she says is actually true! Anyone who disagrees with her is insane! All hail, Ann Coulter!! All hail, Ann Coulter!!!

COMMENT #140 [Permalink]… fwg said on 12/2/2005 @ 2:06 pm PT…

I anticipate you guys are pissed off because Ann is so abounding smarter afresh you.

COMMENT #141 [Permalink]… Reader said on 12/2/2005 @ 2:13 pm PT…

Jesus definately was a democrat! doesn’t everybody bethink the ballad breadth Jesus talked about how abounding He loves aborticide on demand, gay marriage, His name accomplishment banned from schools and accessible places, avant-garde artists who acrylic pictures of His mother covered in dung in a amphitheater of genatalia, and how abounding He supports presidents who accomplish adultry and lie about it. NO, you don’t bethink those. Stop bold you apperceive ANYTHING.

COMMENT #142 [Permalink]… Proud Republican said on 12/2/2005 @ 2:19 pm PT…

Ann is the smartest woman alive! No, the smartest accomplishment alive!! No, the smartest accomplishment who anytime lived!!!

Except for Jesus.

But He wasn’t actually a person. Able-bodied He was a person, but He was God, too. God AND a person. A man, to be specific. A God/Man. Or Man/God.

Oh I accomplishment I said that right. I accomplishment I didn’t affront Him. Or is it Them? ‘Cause there’s the Angelic Spirit, too. The Angelic Trinity. Do you anticipate the Angelic Spirit will be mad at me for not including It in the above-mentioned paragraph?

I actually don’t appetite to be smote.

COMMENT #143 [Permalink]… LawstSoul said on 12/2/2005 @ 2:29 pm PT…

COMMENT #144 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/2/2005 @ 2:31 pm PT…

The abandoned affair that Jesus acutely warned adjoin over and over — the affair that affronted him the most, were the religious leaders – the Pharisees. I aloof spent a anniversary annual all four Gospels to my children.

COMMENT #145 [Permalink]… Hmmm…. said on 12/2/2005 @ 2:38 pm PT…

It’s sad that you would lie about Jesus in a way that would accomplish bodies accede with you, it shows authentic weakness in your argument.

COMMENT #146 [Permalink]… Proud Republican said on 12/2/2005 @ 2:42 pm PT…

Don’t lie about Jesus. He doesn’t like it. He adeptness agonize you.

COMMENT #147 [Permalink]… agirl said on 12/2/2005 @ 4:21 pm PT…

Hey at atomic for the $30,000 we pay to apprehend Coulter we get abhorrence WITH jokes. with the casting of Michael Moore (who allege COLLEGE STUDENTS $30,000 for speeches) we abandoned get abhorrence and nonsense. is this woman nuts? abhorrence mongering is a bourgeois agenda? the acumen we admission bodies like ann coulter is because the liberals admission abashed and bedeviled the media for so long. candidly now, i’ve had 4 advisers say f* bush, and was actually a victim of mulitiple bribery incidents at my college. i cannot admission that this woman is actually abashed about boyish minds accomplishment manipulated by her (what anytime happened to the adulation of the 1st Ammend? ), aback an unbelieveable bulk of STATE PAID advisers get to dispense accepting with their bent and get paid tax dollars for it. I accepting i’m amiss though….those accepting who egged and keyed my car, vandalized my avant-garde door, and wrote advancing belletrist were allegedly aloof application “satire.”

COMMENT #148 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 12/2/2005 @ 4:50 pm PT…

Well, by acknowledging those who aperture every aphorism God anytime wrote, at atomic you contrivance the allegation of “Pharisee.” I get the consequence this isn’t what Jesus meant.

Nor, by the way, did Jesus say these things, so if you appetite to allocution about what a admiring Christian you are, and accent how admirable it is to move arise harmony, arise the centermost , you adeptness appetite to actualization it by bottomward the aspersion and smear-campaign. You adeptness additionally try not allurement a armpit added abhorrent than any bourgeois propoganda I’ve anytime aboveboard to broadcast your assignment for you.

Which Bible were you annual to your kids, Das Kapital? In abundance he speas of “an affronted and cheating generation”, says “it is applicable for us to accomplish all righteousness”, tells the bodies to “repent”, informs us “Do not anticipate that I came to arrest the law or the prophets,” and adds “whoever breach one of the atomic of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be declared atomic in the commonwealth of heaven,” and “You shall not murder, You shall not accomplish adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not buck apocryphal witness” Those are all out of Matthew, which–if that’s what you were annual them–you should admission accomplished with age-old Tuesday.

Demosthenes, best of Air America’s admirers are conservative. So, for that matter, are best of NPR’s, the avant-garde media, and any added show, avant-garde or conservative. And added and added of Air America’s contributions are advancing from conservatives, for the simple acumen that already it fails in the barter they’ll go to assembly with accession FAIR act to advance to cage conservatism.

COMMENT #149 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/2/2005 @ 7:36 pm PT…

Hmmm and Redneck: I am a comedienne and I do not apostle the killing of Republicans or the assassination of a admiral (as Coulter has in the accomplished with Clinton.) There is a aberration amid annoyance accounting out of admiration and complete hate-speech which targets accomplished groups for extinction. Akin accepting Coulter thinks she’s accomplishment able and funny, she is still a absorbing apostle and the bluff of her admirers is legion. She does not abode to nice bodies “in the middle” abandoned to accelerated extremists who are alarming loons — she inflames passions of acrimony and abhorrence OBVIOUSLY, or I wouldn’t be accepting afterlife threats (read my blog at www.lydiacornell.com) and she inflames passions adjoin acrimony and hate. She is not a patriot, her ambition is that of a shock-jock like Howard Stern – and I wouldn’t pay any absorption to her if so abounding in our country didn’t use it as annual for this blitz to war. We admission become too pornographic of a nation, and we admission to advance on afterlife and extremes of violence, appropriately my appellation “Death is sexier than sex…” which is acutely a asinine ball on words, because what on angel could be sexier than sex? I accepting abandon and hate-speak are a turn-on. In our country adapted now, watching bodies activity and be abashed has become “Must-See TV!”

Also, apprehend Matthew 23 please. And the Beatitudes and Matthew 5:38, 5:43 and aggregate abroad in red. Apprehend the spirit of his words and his Sermon on the Mount. Actually aloof quiet your affection and go within; because it’s in all of us, the kingdom, and I activate it the adamantine way — but the affliction affair that anytime happened to me on the border of afterlife became the best thing, my adverse awakening. You apperceive you are fabricated of adulation and we are all accomplishment aloof to affected our abhorrence of anniversary other. We are actually all affiliated by the bolt of love. I admission no abstraction how you accumulate annihilation added than adulation and benevolence out of Christ’s humility. God is not a abhorrence and backbreaking God; God is love. And I apperceive lots of us amiss bodies who abode ball and say asinine things because we are still human, but no one can aberration that my intentions are admiring in that blog. By the way, Billy Graham is a constant Democrat — and you apperceive I anticipate Rick Warren of “The Purpose-Driven Life” is one too. He if assuredly accepting his SaddleBack abbey to admonition the AIDS victims on a massive scale.

Why can’t we all annual anniversary other’s adapted to admission a fun and astute babble and a able beam — but not at the bulk of a accomplished accumulation of bodies who are targets of abhorrence groups? Bethink the peacemakers who died: Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy, JFK — funny how all these martyrs who consort democratic/liberal accepting were assassinated, isn’t it? By liberal, I beggarly they basal to accompany adequation to the contest and end wars. (Republican meant Democrat aback in Lincoln’s day, I think.)

COMMENT #150 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/2/2005 @ 8:13 pm PT…

And aback I allocution about Jesus accomplishment a avant-garde I beggarly this: he spent best of his time caring for the poor and the ailing and the sinners, the ones abounding Pharisees anticipate are too abandoned or bedraggled to touch. He sat on the arena and done the anxiety and the sores of the lepers. He told us to leave acumen and avengement to God. And I admission I am accomplishment judgmental aback I adjudicator our admiral lying to blitz us to war. I admission I am stubborn, judgmental and sometimes obnoxiously angelic and I abhorrence that about myself. If I’ve affronted anyone here, I am sorry. I accomplishment you’ll acquit me so we can

But first, it’s a ball on words, I am authoritative fun of myself for accumulation adoration with politics, which beforehand I say I never do — so amuse try to get the annoyance in my voice. And did you anytime stop to anticipate that some of us artists and actors who admission to ball characters that are evil, admission to burrow bottomless aural to feel a person’s affections – accordingly we see all abandon and we advance benevolence that is about defective in algebraic majors who don’t analyze anima for a living?

Normally a accomplishment like Coulter wouldn’t bother me so much, it’s like watching South Park – but she has complete adeptness to amplitude elections, or at atomic she did in the aftermost two. This agency she had accompany in aerial places of inflluence, and this scares me that we admission now affronted the angel adjoin us for some evangelical mission that was never Christ’s intention. And anticipate about this: there’s a acumen the abyss is encased in the abstracted clandestine anatomy of an abandoned woman: it is amid her and God, and her anatomy suffers the decision, as we are actually airy beings and all the wars are aural ourselves. We are aloof arena them out on a macro-scale. This is allegedly too abstract to admission but the key is axial us. Go hire WHAT THE BLEEP DO WE KNOW? The abnormality in the water…

And lastly, a able way to acquaint if you’re accepting is alive for you, is to ask yourself: “how has my activity been fabricated added admiring by my faith?” If it isn’t authoritative you a lighter, better, happier added able person, afresh maybe we should try to see breadth we are adhering to the altercation in the amiss way. The key is hidden in apparent sight. A abounding alpha is Emmet Fox “The Sermon on the Mount.” It absolved me! “Angles can fly because they booty themselves lightly!”Love you all and God Absolve you Ann Coulter!! Lydia

COMMENT #151 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 12/2/2005 @ 10:54 pm PT…

Actually, we could go about and about and about on how democratic, peaceful, and acquisitive of catastrophe war Lincoln was (lemme put it this way: all that affronted accomplishment y’all allege Backcountry of doing, Lincoln actually did), but akin afresh there was a abounding aberration amid Democrats and Republicans.

Meanwhile, my botheration with aborticide isn’t what a woman does with her body. It’s what a woman does with the kid’s body.

“She does not abode to nice bodies “in the middle” abandoned to accelerated extremists who are alarming loons”You do apprehend that you’re aggravating to accomplish the case that you aloof appetite us all to be nice to anniversary added here, right? Granted, it’s not the blazon of insult that would admission me calling for a lawyer, but it does affectionate of run adverse to your purposes–an affiliation that we’re a befuddled mob, ropes and shotguns in hand, cat-and-mouse for Ms. Coulter to point a feel and scream “ATTAAAAAAAACK!” doesn’t actually advance adulation and understanding. I’m as accommodating to aeon in the mud as anyone, or to booty the aerial ground, but if you appetite to accede a truce, amuse do it afore you bandy the aboriginal punch.

Also, out of curiosity, what did you admission to say apropos Ward Churchill’s comments, apropos the “little Eichmanns” alive in the Angel Barter Centermost aback it was hit? Or Spike Lee’s annotation that accession should shoot Charlton Heston in the head, or Nina Totenburg’s accomplishment that Jesse Helms–or one of his grandchildren–contracts AIDS? Would this be the time to allege of beams and motes?

But accomplishment is the allocation wherein I actually booty offense:”but no one can aberration that my intentions are admiring in that blog.”Yes, those intentions flash through, right… about… here.

Hate Ms. Coulter if you wish, ma’am. But please, don’t acquaint me about how you represent the admiring ancillary of Christianity, in the bosom of a slander-and-smear piece. It’s… a little added than aloof ironic.

“And did you anytime stop to anticipate that some of us artists and actors who admission to ball characters that are evil, admission to burrow bottomless aural to feel a person’s affections – accordingly we see all abandon and we advance benevolence that is about defective in algebraic majors who don’t analyze anima for a living?”–I abode myself, ma’am–perhaps not exceptionally, but able-bodied abounding to win money both for abbreviate fiction, commodity (a allotment I’m rather appreciative of, seeing as I managed to use additional accomplishment and present abutting and actually managed to cull it off) and for poetry, and I admission consistently been apprenticed to afire hemorrhoidal acerbity by the abstraction of “I’m an artist, I feel things added than added bodies do.” I usually admission to chaw bottomward an appetite to either a) put a cigarette out on their forehead and scream “That’d aching like hell if accession did it to me, how does it feeeeeeel to you!?” or b) booty off my shirt and alcohol bourbon from a quart jar. Fortunately, I accomplish at a) and arrest at b), rather than the added way around. Suffice to say that I durably admission a greater adeptness to alteration what you feel to a medium–be it cardboard (both actually and electronically), canvas, sound, or the screen–does not accordingly construe to a greater accommodation to feel, or accomplish accession a bigger accomplishment overall.

COMMENT #152 [Permalink]… Proud Republican said on 12/2/2005 @ 11:24 pm PT…

I feel added than all y’all, because I’ve been done in the claret of the Lamb! Hallelujah!!!

And remember: every agent is sacred.

COMMENT #153 [Permalink]… big k said on 12/3/2005 @ 2:26 am PT…

Ms Cornell,

I allegation say, your attempts at an accepting are nice in and of themselves and for that they are accepted. Please, in the approaching accountability from analytic the accepting of those you disagree with. Honestly, you absent me adapted there. I can admission a agitation with anyone accommodating to allocution rationally, akin if I get affronted with them. But analytic my accepting is commodity you cannot do as a Christian. It is artlessly not Christ-like, and accepting I am animated you are annual your Bible, if you absent that part, you should apprehend it again.

To get added to the point at hand, yes, Jesus batten adjoin the Pharisees affluence of times. Because they were hypocrites. They were cat-and-mouse for the Messiah to come, and accomplishment He was, but they were acquisitive to hit the displace button and see what abroad they could get. Again, not the appeaser they were adorable for, so he told them in no ambiguous acceding that their accomplished way of activity would be destroyed (which it was), they would be broadcast to the four apprehension (which they were), and they would lose their bequest from Abraham (which is why we are Christians, not Jews). All bold he was not there to fix their banausic problems with the application force that took over their land.

It could be argued that Jesus was avant-garde abounding to acquaint anybody they can accomplish Heaven and that accomplishment of the abandoned is accessible no bulk how abounding they admission collapsed afore they die. Avant-garde in this faculty accomplishment affiliated to beggarly He was an abiding optimist. But accomplish no mistake, He had no altruism for adamant ignorance. Accepting aborticide in any acceding amounts to this. Sorry. You are wrong.

Mosaic law, you should bean homosexuals aback this is an abhorrence of nature. Does not complete complete avant-garde to me.

Also, sex afterwards the ambition of accepting a boyish is actually banned in Mosaic law. Hence, accepting an aborticide afterwards because the boyish would alive a activity breadth it is not basal is absent afore it begins.

All that is in Exodus. I advance annual for understanding, rather than award some hidden acceptation in all this. You can get in a lot of agitation that way.

COMMENT #154 [Permalink]… big k said on 12/3/2005 @ 2:49 am PT…

One aftermost affair afore the benefaction of beddy-bye overtakes me for the night. Ann is a lawyer, you can bet your britches she is not advocating a killing. For if accession did it and cited her as the acumen she would be in complete hot water. She is not that dumb, whatever you anticipate of her. If accession has been advancing you, they are accomplishing this because they are stupid. Wholly clumsy to accomplish a ablaze point in any added way they baste out with these asinine overtures, that aback you acquire to cavalcade accomplishment and elsewhere, I am animated to see you admission been able to abstain any danger.

I advance diplomacy a gun and acquirements how to use it. As accession who has been the almsman of a few agitated encounters with bodies actually acceptation to do me harm, I can acquaint you it does admonition me beddy-bye at night alive they are there. My wife prefers a .357 Taurus Tracker. It has a compensating barrel, is accessible to handle accepting its caliber, and a 7 annular cylinder. Any idiot adorable to aces a activity afterwards adorable bottomward the abject of that bad boy deserves what he gets.

What abounding of us admission been aphorism accomplishment is you are aloof as accountable for the abhorrence accent you allegedly despise. Likening us to Nazis is not activity to get me to see any point you have.

COMMENT #155 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/3/2005 @ 5:00 am PT…

REDNECK: If you admission an accessible mind, you will admission this. If not, I accord up. I accredit to the bodies who admission threatened my activity as dangerous, biased lunatics and Coulter-supporters — because anniversary one of these bodies who has declared me at home has actually threatened/screamed/written that Coulter is a abounding beastly accomplishment and I am a abandoned idiot, porn hooker, and worse. One guy said I should be shot, a man showed up at my aperture and my accouchement about answered it — and one guy wrote commodity like this: “I wouldn’t admission absent if you had been asleep in the WTC attacks.” I abashed up the buzz abashed and crying. And you say I admission no adapted to acquaint the accuracy about her and her anarchic alarming mission? She knows her admirers are advance dogs, extremists.

I admission never airish nude or done porn. I admission kept myself out of the accent in adjustment to accession my accouchement and deepen my compassionate of my own demons. I admission banned to booty the accessible avenue and do debris or absoluteness TV or commercials I don’t admission in.

ART vs. MATH — aback I said so abounding artists/philosophers/writers and actors are Democrats, there’s a acumen for this. Some arch bookish bourgeois did a abstraction on this and came up with some absorbing abstracts (I admission to acquisition out his name.) He says that artists are added emotion-based and adeptness bottomless into the beastly soul, appropriately liberal. Mathematicians and economists and bodies who go into accounting and business for a active are added “head-oriented” they anticipate rather than feel. We allegation both. Both accompaniment anniversary other. So to me, that’s why liberals are so doughy and “feeling” and conservatives so able with money. Wouldn’t it be abounding if we could assignment in accord together? What a abounding country we would have! So aback it comes to acrimonious a Supreme Cloister justice, we allegation accession who can see all abandon like Soloman. Acumen is adeptness WITH heart.

My apropos to Coulter’s hate-speak as anti-Christian is not hate-speak on my part. I am pointing out facts highlighting the accuracy with a “satirical” analogy. I am not advocating her death. (Please READ Coulter’s work, all of it. Go to the articulation accomplishment declared the Gospel of Ann. She espouses killing all Muslims — and converting them to Christianity. She espouses abolition Clinton, killing all liberals who assignment at the New York Times — her accent is as bad as a fundamentalist activist (Taliban is a able archetype of the acute Muslim view). She actually wears a crucifix about her neck. I am abashed of what biased bourgeois declared “Christians” admission done to debauchee the best admirable adoration in the world. I am a Christian. I am a Democrat BECAUSE I’m a Christian (as one of my admirers wrote). There are abounding of us out here, but we’re advancing out now.

Acutely you are additionally a Christian I believe. Don’t you anticipate Jesus basal us to acquisition the acclimatized ground, the adulation amid us? If I agitated you by pointing out this alarming betrayal of Christianity on Coulter’s allotment (and Pat Robertson — and George Backcountry for aphorism God told him to go to war) afresh I am sorry. But I am appliance my adapted to allege what God has put in my heart. And annihilation I admission said promotes violence. Maybe it’s annoying and gets bodies to think, but I am advancing from my own point of actualization acutely and this is a country breadth chargeless accent allows us to allotment ideas. Maybe I could get commodity from you, maybe you admission fabricated me think. Maybe you could get a tiny blink of ablaze from me. Why are you so set up to activity me? Do we allotment annihilation in common? I am adorable for one bendable bulletin in your posts, one affair we share. We allegation stop affronted amidst ourselves. A NATION DIVIDED DOES NOT STAND. And don’t use this as a absolution for war, because abounding conservatives are additionally devastated by the lies abaft this war. I appetite to abutment our troops by not absolution a audible soldier die afresh — as ten added Marines were asleep today! I abutment our troops by bringing them home to assure our own adored citizens and borders. These Muslim tribes, Sunni and Shia admission been affronted affiliated wars all their lives. They will now admission to assignment it out for themselves. We are the problem, aloof accomplishment on their “holy” acreage is what irks them (the extremists who are alarming us up) so much. In their Jihad mentality, our complete actualization on Muslim angelic clay (going way aback to the Saudis corruption) is their absolution for advancing us. Abolish ourselves from the equation, arise home, beef up our forces, absorb all the money on our own borders — and we would afresh be aboveboard as heroes. It’s like Alanon — abstract with love, let bodies assignment out their own issues. Commercialism imposed from afterwards (from outside) would not stick unless they arise to it on their own… like the 12 steps. I am 11 years abstaining and admission activate that humility, not airs is strength. For me, the quickest avenue to God (putting God anon into my heart) is the 12-steps; afresh I got aback to exploring my adolescence religion, and afresh began actually annual with a new eye. From withIN to withOUT. It’s an axial job and we all admission it axial us to adulation anniversary other. Adulation & Peace, Lydia

COMMENT #156 [Permalink]… ginny said on 12/3/2005 @ 6:51 am PT…

To all the annoyed republicans announcement acerbic belletrist here….

to all the bodies aggravating to ‘prove’ how abounding of a bigger or angelic christian they are

read through your hostile, abhorrent messages.

and afore you allege me of accomplishment a democrat lover, liberal, sympathiser…. i’m aloof annual the altercation on accomplishment and it’s rather scary.

I admission apprehend Lydia Cornell’s posts and activate them to be intelligent, and from the heart. commodity which defective in abounding of the aloft mentioned posts. Everybody has views, but i don’t anticipate any accomplishment had the adapted to answerable Ms Cornell to analytic her spiritual/religious behavior and accusatory her. And for the almanac i don’t accede with aggregate Ms Cornell espouses, i aloof admission to arise from the aforementioned airy abode that assertive accomplishments by governments/people admission abhorrence and killing is aloof wrong!

For the record, i anticipation that christians bold as war-mongerers and consistently application Jesus as a belvedere to get legislation or agendas out in affiliation is decidely agnostic and analytic this does not accomplish one a traitor.

And posts like castigation Melissa aloof piss me off… get a life. You anticipate you admission a moral adapted to anxiety accession you disagree with ‘dumb’ makes you decidely hypocritical. I didn’t apprehend any allotment of Lydia’s cavalcade which has abhorrent to anyone or disrespecful… can you say the aforementioned about castigation or do you abridgement the intelligence to accomplish a authentic altercation afterwards blurred yourself to name calling and denigration???? reread your cavalcade and attending at how algid it actually is.

so to all you abhorrent people, if you’re activity to cavalcade something, aloof use your academician and arise up with able debate. Befitting in apperception that it is bodies who are Coulter supporters with abhorrence in their minds who are giving advancing calls and emails.

and that started from what?? admonition on a website…..

Lydia… actually annual your views, your arguments arise from the affection and admission a 18-carat activity to them. Apologetic to apprehend about the agitation you allegation be activity through, but there are abounding bodies like me who annual what you’re doing. God absolve

COMMENT #157 [Permalink]… fwg said on 12/3/2005 @ 9:50 am PT…

Quoting P.J. O’Rourke, “you liberals are consistently accepting your toes bent in your sandals and hitting your active on your wind chimes.” And, “how can you disregard killing an approaching babyish but not a bedevilled murderer?”

COMMENT #158 [Permalink]… Ian Speed said on 12/3/2005 @ 9:56 am PT…

Always remember: A antipathetic is a avant-garde who doesn’t lie, a absolutist is a avant-garde with balls. I would adulation to apprehend all your acquainted opinions on things like abortion, gun controll, and ACTUAL muzzling of chargeless accent by different statists in the Autonomous party, but Jesus told me to abstain absolutism and adulation peace. Isn’t that what he said? That we should cede accession and authentic accepting for peace? If not, afresh your acutely confused, and I deceit admission that. Afterwards all, air-conditioned bodies abhorrence Ann Coulter…… and your the coolest agglomeration I’ve anytime seen.

COMMENT #159 [Permalink]… frostys91 said on 12/3/2005 @ 10:00 am PT…

If Coulter’s accent was advised as satire, I admiration if the admirers was bedlam (which would beggarly they were amused); or were they auspicious and applauding (which would beggarly they were agreeably acknowledging her ideas). Aback I admission to Al Franken, I laugh.

COMMENT #160 [Permalink]… frostys91 said on 12/3/2005 @ 11:02 am PT…

Lydia: I’ve never heard Ann Coulter declared as a “comedienne/satirist” before. Anybody consistently refers to her as a “comentator”. I anticipate this is a acclimatized point of confusion. For example, Al Franken and Mark Shields and affiliation like them are declared “comedians” or “political satirists”. If Anne is actually application satire, she should be declared a “political satirist” or akin a “partisan satirist”. The appellation “commentator” implies austere assay and acutely anticipation out positions on issues that are accordant to or angel today. I anticipate this is why anybody is so confused. The majority of her supporters on this folio admission to booty her actually seriously, yet some avert her as application banter to accomplish points. If anybody acclimatized her as application satire, it wouldn’t be such a austere problem, but if you admission her to be a commentator, afresh her annual are complete hateful. Maybe she’s abashed herself about what she is.

COMMENT #161 [Permalink]… merifour said on 12/3/2005 @ 11:34 am PT…

#150 Accede you Lydia for responding. I, too, am a apprentice of Metaphysics, for 30 years. I do not anxiety myself a Christian because the basal abstraction of Christianity has been corrupted. The bulletin acclimatized by Jesus has been abandoned and askance by those adulatory to absorb adeptness for all time. I admission the bulletin Jesus was aggravating to aback was artlessly to adulation one another. So simple. This is the aforementioned bulletin acclimatized by added sages throughout history. How did we arise to this place. Christians verses Christians on the acceptation of that annual or that statement, the aforementioned altercation has been activity on forever. Seems every Christian abbey has a altered booty on what the bible says.

The Commonwealth of Heaven is within. We are airy beings aggravating to act human, not the added way around. Aback one transcends and begins to ask the bigger questions, afresh one begans to get the answers. Ask and you shall receive, Seek and you shall find, Advance and the aperture will open. I anxiety it the ASK principal. Abounding do not question, they chase the ‘leader’ so to speak. They do not do any claimed searching.

I admission in Airy Evolution. The ambition is to accumulate with God. Some are added avant-garde than others, they are the Wayshowers. The Truthseekers. Aback one begins to abject the ‘higher’ concepts of the Airy Reality, they transcend the ‘gold’ akin and activate the climb. The aboriginal akin is to accretion Knowledge, afresh Understanding, and assuredly Wisdom.

The majority of bodies admission to be ashore on the ‘gold-matter’ level. To me, it is air-conditioned to acquaint with these types, as I am advancing from a abode added along. I see a aloft annual and acquisition I admission little backbone for the amaranthine arguments. A airy adventure is a two footfall forward, one footfall back. I acquisition myself accepting bent up in the ‘play’ and afresh allegation admonish myself that this is actually all an illusion. We are all actors, creating this reality.

I admission about apprehend or heard that should it be acclimatized the this planet is not the abandoned one in the Universe, that the ramifications would be catastrophic. I did not admission that Americans would be so archaic as to not admission that concept. This cilia has actually acquainted me. M4

COMMENT #162 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 12/3/2005 @ 12:06 pm PT…

Well, advantage a) isn’t consistently necessarily a bad thing….

COMMENT #163 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 12/3/2005 @ 2:20 pm PT…

Actually, I admission apprehend Ann Coulter’s work. All of it. Several times. And she does not apostle the killing of all muslims. The complete quote–it’s rather famous–was “We should accepting their countries, annihilate their leaders, and catechumen them to Christianity.” “Their leaders” are somewhat difficult to annihilate afterwards advancing the country, and these “leaders” are bodies like the Taliban, Houssein, the Ayatollah…. Yes, ma’am, all bodies admission annual in the Lord’s eyes, but aback it’s bubbles at the aperture you got to put it down. And as Ann Coulter responded to Katie Couric, “As for converting them to Christianity, I anticipate it adeptness be a able abstraction to get them on some arrangement of amusement added than slaughtering infidels. I mean, conceivably that’s the Accord Corps, conceivably it’s alive for planned Parenthood, but I’ve never aboveboard the transforming aftereffect of annihilation like Christianity.”(This was arise in the Hollywood Anchorman as “Do you still admission that’s the best way to activity terrorism?” Couric demanded. That adduce was taken out of context, Coulter insisted”)And with the “examples” you’ve acclimatized in mind, I admission to ask–have you apprehend Ann Coulter’s work? I get the audible consequence that alive what she actually said would accomplish a ample difference.

” I appetite to abutment our troops by not absolution a audible soldier die afresh — as ten added Marines were asleep today!”–You anticipate they’ll say they’re apologetic and aperture there if we leave? Well, they will aperture there, for a little while; to balance Iraq, but afer that they’ll be aback accomplishment again. They’ve fabricated it ablaze already that it’s not troops in Saudi Arabia that has them pissed off; until we catechumen to islam, bastille our homosexuals (yeah–like accomplishment in bastille is gonna stop ’em…), abolish women from any job that has acquaintance with men from waitress to flight attendant, and best chiefly get out of the way so they can annihilate Jews, the attacks are activity to continue. Or until they die, and I apperceive which advantage I prefer.

Likewise, accomplishment acclimatized a chargeless duke in the boilerplate east agency afterlife and calamity in the boilerplate east. Al-Anon is a abounding organization, ma’am, but the boilerplate alcoholic doesn’t admission a abduction room. You appetite to allege of love, ma’am–where’s your adulation for the Iraqi people? Would you rather they were still accomplishment run through the artificial shredders while we danced about with Saddam for a few added years? A few added abjure to afterlife while he uses their money to anatomy palaces? Accumulate up Houssein’s $25,000 payments to anyone who murders a Jew? Syria still captivation a stranglehold on their own people, Lebanon still basically a aficionado state, and Khadafhi/gaddafi/however it’s spelled still captivation on to his abetment of goodies?

“Democracy imposed from afterwards (from outside) would not stick unless they arise to it on their own…”–I allegation say that accomplishment I disagree, and would like to point out such examples as Japan and Germany. In Japan especially, Commercialism was imposed from without, and in both countries it seems that the bodies don’t anticipate abounding of absolutism afterwards all. Because the bodies blithely bouncing ink-stained fingers in Iraq, I don’t anticipate they enjoyed their absolutism abounding over there either.

By the way, I disagree with Big K, and admission that a 4-10 shotgun is your best bet. Not abandoned is it added able (by which I beggarly a derringer-type weapon, or akin a sawed-off), but the advance from such a weapon will, in best cases, not canyon through walls. It is not alien for accession to be advance with a .357, and the ammo to canyon through the assailant, through a wall, and into the abutting room.

I may be wrong, but I get the consequence that you feel we anticipate of the Iraqi bodies as eggs that adeptness admission to be burst in adjustment to accomplish a big “peace in the boilerplate east” omelette. Not abandoned is this not the case, but imagine, if you would, the bearings they would be larboard in were your desires to ascendancy sway.

COMMENT #164 [Permalink]… Proud Republican said on 12/3/2005 @ 9:52 pm PT…

Praise the Lord! Jesus wants America to advance His commercialism to the world. America is the best Christian country in the world! We admission the complete society: no poverty, best education, accessible accepting to blossom care, aught unemployment, a aboriginal environment… allegation I say more? And now we’re bringing this paradise to the bodies of Iraq. Akin if we admission to annihilate best of them to do it. It’s for their own good, afterwards all. Adored be God!!!

COMMENT #165 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 12/4/2005 @ 1:26 am PT…

It is rather amazing that in such a abode so abounding use the babble I aback acclamation anticipation processes. Is this adumbration of buying or for the purpose of establishing actualization in adjustment to attain avant-garde ?

Even from the apperception of our nation, political aberration has been an issue. Appropriately the Federalists Affidavit and the Publis. No two bodies will accede all the time. Aural this aberration we acquisition what makes our nation great. Akin the consititution accepting you will acquisition the accepting of John Locke and Thomas Hobbes as able-bodied two somewhat opposing theroists.

Isolationsim and the Monroe Commodity is not effective. As we apperceive from December 7th 1941 and September 11th 2001. As Dr Samuel Huntington so acutely authentic in his assignment ” The Clash of Civilizations” we admission there are acclimatized accountability lines. Actually the Boilerplate East and indigenous cleansing are not synonomous. Bethink what happened in Bosnia. Yet afresh aback Christianity meets Islam there are fundemental differences. We alive in a angel shaped by things like the Acceleration and Abatement of the Roman Empire and the movement of the Ottoman Empire.

The acclimatized angel we alive in is one of a all-around economy, wherein business causes cultures to interact. Thomas Hobbes said ” man lives in a accompaniment of nature.” Alternating these curve of anticipation we allegation apprehend that aback Adeptness confronts Morality, adeptness will exhausted morality. The acumen for government is to assure the anemic from the bullies who would appoint their will aloft another. For some alien acumen it was accounted all-important to fly planes into the Angel Barter Center. Like it or not we are in a activity adjoin a adeptness who would seek to appoint their will aloft us.

It may arise as a rather Aphotic Flash of the Accessible to some, however, acquirements from history is a able thing. For example, the acumen Acclimatized Lee absent at Gettysburg was because of the fundemental assumption of breadth management. He fought a activity on breadth not of his best and it was disasterous. Admission we anytime anticipation that conceivably we are attempting to activity a war adjoin agitator on breadth of our choosing?? As adjoin to affronted it adapted accomplishment on our soil?? Maybe aloof maybe by demography the activity to them we anticipate akin added American casualties?? Decisions were fabricated based on the admonition the administering had at the time of the decision.

There are some 3,000 additional articular sites breadth nuclear or biological weapons may be hidden in Iraq. There admission been traces in abounding instances of the prescense of biological weapons. It will booty time to chase this abounding sites. As well, there admission been Al Queda training camps taken bottomward in Western Iraq. The adversary casualities are not abandoned Iraqi but Iranian, Saudi, Syrian and other’s who appetite to annihilate Americans. Militarily speaking we are allegation the butts. However, war is war and not fought afterwards casualties.

President Backcountry did not ask to admission 9/11 arise on his watch but it did. Arena the allegation bold for contest is like closing the barn aperture afterwards the livestock has run off. Yet accession air-conditioned animadversion that the President’s behavior acquired All-around Warming and Katrina yet afresh political wankering. In case anybody wants to apperceive in the backward 1800s history shows that added than 42 hurricanes befuddled the Continental Affiliated States.

Making a political discourse, behindhand of breadth it comes from, is authoritative a political argument. There are some things in activity that we can never booty back; a absent opportunity, a spent bullet, and a announced word. We are beastly and accomplish mistakes, however, one of the things adapted to captive a accomplishment of committing a abhorrence is Mens Rea…a accusable accompaniment of mind. Political abode has an intent. Authoritative aspersing statements about accession has absorbed no bulk how you allocate them.

Nobody deserves to alive in a accompaniment of abhorrence for speaking their minds. Not Ms Coulter as she articular administer sites auspicious accession to abduction her. Nor do you Ms Cornell deserve to admission the abundance of you and your ancestors threatened.

It has actually been an annual and a priveledge to admission been able to avert our abounding nation for two decades. While I may not accede with what you say I will avert your adapted to say it with my activity if necessary.

COMMENT #166 [Permalink]… KenKong said on 12/4/2005 @ 9:49 am PT…

Lydia,You are a aborticide in the ball industry. I went to your website. Can you say “self-absorbed”? I abiding can, with commendations to you. I afresh arrested out imdb.com, one of my admired websites, to see your bio. It sucks.I adulation it aback bodies admission to selectively adduce Ann to accord her a assertive image. They can never acquaint aback she’s badinage or not. I admission to be able to anticipate appealing well. Also, the e-mail you wrote to Ann (displayed on her website) is disgraceful. You’re a backstabber. One second, it’s “Oh accost Ann,” and the abutting additional it’s “Death is sexier than sex to Coulter.” And by the way, breadth did that appellation akin arise from? I’m not compassionate that. You allegedly admission an attraction with, I don’t know, death! You’re additionally bedeviled with Ann Coulter. You’ve accounting a book (or a “book”) about her, which can be activate in about aught book aliment nationwide. You abode a affiliated commodity about her. You’re like a anxious aficionado of Ann, aggravating to be arguable and insisting to us that “Really, I’m bigger than her!” It’s aloof not working.Remind me aback your abutting cine comes out. I wouldn’t appetite to absence your adornment actualization as “Bra Saleswoman #2.” Oh wait–that wasn’t a joke! You actually DID ball a character…a actualization declared “Bra Saleswoman.”

COMMENT #167 [Permalink]… big k said on 12/4/2005 @ 1:42 pm PT…

Ms. Cornell,

You admission a adapted to chargeless speech, and I am abandoned animated you do. So, of advance do I. I admission you are grotesquely wrong, and perverting Christianity yourself. Giving the best to arrest a child? Active from your enemies? Disrespecting your president? (Notice I did not say antagonistic with, I said disrespecting). You cannot acquisition a Bible advertence that supports any of that, but we admission been accomplishment giving Bible references to the adverse this accomplished time.

Oh, and calling bodies Nazis is not satire. It is not funny. It is not meant to be. Consistently calling bodies with a altered actualization than your own not Christian is consistently amiss for a Christian to do. It is abhorrence speech, and I admission asked that you stop now twice. Continuing do acknowledgment that is not activity to get converts to your side.

As for the ailing debris that admission been advancing to your home I accredit to my beforehand statement. Get a gun, a strap, a gat, whatever you appetite to anxiety it. Jesus said to advertise your bathrobe and buy a sword, He would not admission a botheration with it, I am sure.

Redneck, I allegation admission your point. The shotgun would be a bigger choice. Akin added fearful, and annihilation makes accession who is accomplishing commodity they apperceive is amiss jump like audition a shotgun lock and load. Able call.

COMMENT #168 [Permalink]… merifour said on 12/4/2005 @ 2:27 pm PT…

COMMENT #169 [Permalink]… Juan the Crazy Pirate said on 12/4/2005 @ 3:27 pm PT…

Who cares if the “artists are added emotion-based and adeptness bottomless into the beastly soul.” If affections are amiss afresh they are fodder. Activity commodity does not accord you any blazon of moral authority. In fact, one of the affidavit bodies anticipate Backcountry went to war was to get aback for the aborticide of his father. If that is the case, it agency that he was activity acrimony and hatred, which, according to your beliefs, would be OK because it was affection felt. But NOOOO. That is aback the acceding arise in. Accession can abandoned feel what you WANT them to feel. Whenever it goes adjoin your animosity afresh it is wrong. Adapted accession extremists feel that they are correct. Larboard accession extremists feel that they are correct. For some acumen the Adapted accession is basics and the Larboard accession is enlightened. Why? Both are animation off the aforementioned affection acquainted emotions? Jack Nicholson said it best in As Able As It Gets. . .

Woman: How do you abode women so well?Melvin: I anticipate of a man, and I booty abroad acumen and accountability.

This is acutely a gross generalization about women, but the point is that it is a putdown. We all either laughed if we were men or got agitated if we were women because we all apperceive that we dont appetite a abridgement of acumen or accountability to aphorism our circadian lives.

Here is the abashed point. You appetite activity to ball a role in politics? Our arrangement will acquire of those that feel and those that think. Then, whenever money has to be doled out for things that accession feels is all-important but actually isnt, those that actually admission a clue about accounting are affected to footfall into the non-feeling breadth of government and cut spending for commodity that isnt all-important although bodies may feel that way. Afresh comes the abhorrence accent from the activity people, oh, they dont actually adulation the [insert any larboard accession annual not provided for in the architecture here]. In absoluteness it doesnt assignment if you appetite a non-divided political nation because the accuracy is that the activity bodies cannot sit aback and anytime admission the accomplishment that sometimes their animosity arent important. They use this advertising to advance their agenda. You cannot use the altercation that it SHOULD work, communism SHOULD work, but accepting what, the abandoned political and bread-and-butter arrangement that will anytime assignment will be one that plays on the centermost beastly attributes while befitting some arrangement of moral check. As anon as you try and change beastly attributes you are affronted a blow battle.

PSM4, you abstraction metaphysics, is that a science? What authentic affirmation do you admission of your religious beliefs? How do you know? What separates your accepting from anyone elses? Aloof wonderingeeling commodity does not accord you any blazon of moral authority.

COMMENT #170 [Permalink]… KL said on 12/4/2005 @ 6:45 pm PT…

Ms. Cornell,How can you anxiety democrates Christians? These are the aforementioned bodies who are advocating for aborticide to be acknowledged and aforementioned sex marriage. During my abstraction of the bible I never already apprehend breadth Jesus okays the killing of an innocent babyish so accession abandoned doesn’t admission to pay the bulk of accepting sex alfresco of marriage, which by the way, is additionally a abstain in the actualization of Christians, in case you were wondering. And I additionally allegation admission absent the allotment breadth aforementioned sex accord was okay. I was accomplished that accord was amid a man and a woman, not amid two queers. It was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

COMMENT #171 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/4/2005 @ 11:03 pm PT…

…Go to the articulation accomplishment [the bruised hit piece] declared the Gospel of Ann. She espouses killing all Muslims — and converting them to Christianity…

-Lydia Cornell

Ms. Cornell, this is an abandoned lie. Maybe this is what you “feel” she “feels”, but it charcoal a lie nevertheless. Conceivably you could accord us a complete adduce with a link, or declining that, a aboveboard apology. Contrarily this would be an befalling for you to authenticate what a fine, affected Christian you are by repenting for abode apocryphal attestant adjoin your neighbor.

A bit of advice: If you are activity to acquaint advised lies about such “a abhorrent person”, conceivably it would be bigger not to draft one of her best acclaimed quotes. As RedNeck said, the adduce is “We should accepting their countries, annihilate their leaders, and catechumen them to Christianity” [we’ve already done 1 & 2; 3 is conceivably tongue-in-cheek aggressive thinking].

I doubtable that instead of an apology, you will advance to circuit that killing abandoned agitator leaders is somehow agnate to killing all Muslims — afresh anybody will apprentice what a cellophane avant-garde amateur you are. Or try diversion; acquaint us how W allegedly aria about WMD–that’s a able plan.

I advance you abode this arrant applesauce if you intend to buck any atom of believability from your decrepit reputation. Ann Coulter may ascendancy some arguable opinions, but they are based in fact, not abrupt “feeling”. Clashing you she is truthful; you are not aces to flash her shoes.

BTW I accede with added Conservatives who advance that you buy a firearm to avert yourself and your ancestors from crackpots, if they are actually real. Or acquire with the avant-garde approach: Allegation added bodies for authoritative you a victim, and assurance the badge to assure you, as if you were a abandoned boyish of the assistant state. And if you anytime affliction to apperceive complete adventuresomeness like Ann has, try acclaim criticizing the islamist head-choppers.

COMMENT #172 [Permalink]… Wild Fire said on 12/5/2005 @ 3:30 am PT…

KL

Thanks for proving what I admission already believed that complete pro-lifers are added about antisocial assertive sections of affiliation to acquit their own barbate minds than the absoluteness of beastly existence.

Last time I checked, the bible did not apostle antisocial bodies nor did Jesus become a aperture allotment for extremists. You acquaint me in the bible breadth Jesus advocates bodies like yourself are the abandoned bodies in affiliation with a advantageous appraisal or soul?? What… it isn’t in there, funny that.

From a complete point of view, best of the Bible is acutely advancing and debatable. Every one of your believability can be declared comes from your complete and complete abridgement of affinity and compassionate for bodies in affiliation who don’t fit your oh so complete mold. And your complete abridgement of intelligence to accompaniment that bodies who accord to the democrat affair are not complete christians, please! Are you actually delusional that you admission what you are saying.

Never apperception the accomplishment that bisected of the commodity you so acutely admission not to practice….. I benevolence any accouchement you admission to abound up with such abhorrence to any aberration from the complete christian life.

You actually actualization what I never accomplishment to become.

COMMENT #173 [Permalink]… Wild Fire said on 12/5/2005 @ 3:38 am PT…

KenKong..

so acquaint us about your air-conditioned activity afresh buddy? What are your consummate achievements in life?

One of your accessible accomplished times is slagging off anyone who dares criticize your impaired idol Ann Coulter who by the way seems to be pissing off a accomplished agglomeration of bodies lately….

At atomic Lydia Cornell has acumen and annual commodity your idol has never bedevilled and never, anytime will. It aloof shows your intelligence akin that you couldn’t arise up with a audible admiring accepting in your column. And aback aback does actualization on the O’Reilly actualization and abaft anybody in the nation accomplish Ms Coulter a arresting beastly being?

COMMENT #174 [Permalink]… doug webb said on 12/5/2005 @ 5:22 am PT…

Your amiss babyish babe on aphorism that Jesus would be a Democrat. Not the way the Demoncrats adore demography the activity of pre-born humans(better acclimatized as babies to best of the world) with their allegiant abutment of abortion. Additional I anticipate JC adeptness accountability from authoritative Sen Wellstone’s burial a political rally. Let’s aloof accede that Jesus would be an Complete and let it go at that, OK?

COMMENT #175 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 12/5/2005 @ 6:02 am PT…

Wildfire:

“Thanks for proving what I admission already believed that complete pro-lifers are added about antisocial assertive sections of affiliation to acquit their own barbate minds than the absoluteness of beastly existence.”–Perhaps my adeptness of analysis is lacking, because I admission no abstraction breadth you pulled this annual from.

“Last time I checked, the bible did not apostle antisocial people”–And neither did KL. Funny that.

“nor did Jesus become a aperture allotment for extremists.”–“Women shouldn’t be acclimatized to annihilation their own accouchement to escape the after-effects for their own promiscuity” is acute (and yes, the all-inclusive majority of abortions are for actually that reason)? Afresh I accepting you don’t appetite to apprehend my abstraction of abundance queens and calumniating parents accomplishment sterilized, huh?

“From a complete point of view, best of the Bible is acutely advancing and debatable”–Here’s a hint–“The affirmation is adapted in avant-garde of me but I debris to admission it” doesn’t construe to “Deeply advancing and debatable.” It didn’t assignment with Alger Hiss, it didn’t assignment with the Rosenburgs; it abiding ain’t gonna assignment on God.

“And your complete abridgement of intelligence to accompaniment that bodies who accord to the democrat affair are not complete christians, please!”–Yeah, aloof because they acquittal on Christianity, affectation an complete abhorrence to it, and aboveboard aperture all its commodity doesn’t actually beggarly anything…

“You actually actualization what I never accomplishment to become.”–Capable of application acclimatized sense? I’d admission acclimatized up accomplishment if I were you too.

“At atomic Lydia Cornell has acumen and annual commodity your idol has never bedevilled and never, anytime will.”–Because calling accession the Antichrist and the Taliban shows such a aerial akin of both. Obviously, you’re not abounding of a fan of either concept, yourself.

COMMENT #176 [Permalink]… Michaell Richmond said on 12/5/2005 @ 8:16 am PT…

Wild Fire,Your advance on Coulter and Abutment for Cornell holds no water. Assay credentials.

What aloof because you admission a altered appraisal agency we admission to acquiesce or resoect it, NO. The Nazi’s had a altered opinion, i accepting they would be alllowed in you adulation and annual everybody world. One affair that i has consistently captivated authentic was that the bodies who buck Altruism are the best intolerant.

Pro-Lifers don’t abhorrence bodies who abutment Abortion, accepting we may annual them immoral, we abhorrence abortion. Acutely if you ask any “pro-lifer” if the babyish should be aborted; to save the mother, the boyish already dead, or the boyish has been SEVERELY malformed, they would best able agree. About these instances activity at such a low allotment of the time. The majority of abortions are performed as abode control.

Is there a complete mold, YES, does anyone of us fit it, no. Abandoned GOD can apprehend the beastly heart, do you admission in god, because the way i see it aback there has been no affidavit adjoin his actuality i would admission aloof to be on the safe side. I beggarly you wouldn’t appetite to go about talkin bits about God aback you actually don’t apperceive if he exists or not, or you could booty that adventitious if you want.

Finally I benevolence any accouchement you admission becasuseA) they will best able be abortedB) they will be a bobcat Democrat like youC) my accouchement will exhausted the piss out of them at the academy backyard annual your kids would appetite to ball “non competitive” games

And no, i don;t buck altruism so i assets the adapted to be as antipathetic as i want.

COMMENT #177 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/5/2005 @ 9:12 am PT…

“For some alien acumen it was accounted all-important to fly planes into the Angel Barter Center. Like it or not we are in a activity adjoin a adeptness who would seek to appoint their will aloft us.”

I’m seeing actually a few anxious posts by conservatives here. Unfortunately, this isn’t one of them – reasonable aural but ultimately ashore in complete little at all.

Unknown reason? A activity adjoin a adeptness that would seek to appoint their will on us? Well, I anticipate anyone who keeps up with what we blithely anxiety the annual has a appealing able abstraction what al Qaida’s cerebration was abaft 9/11 – they basal to force us into a activity breadth they could aching us anon and, best importantly, economically. Why?

Because afterwards spectacularly declining to brainwash their casting of abolitionist Islamicism throughout the Boilerplate East, and added accepting snubbed by the Saudis as mujaheddin adjoin Iraq in favor of the U.S. advancing afore the aboriginal Gulf War, bin Ladin and his assembly acclaimed that the U.S. the adeptness abaft both Israel and the authoritarian, corrupt, Muslim states that had adjoin them.

So how to get some beef aback afterwards declining so spectacularly in Egypt and Algeria? Hit a big ambition and a big ambition akin abstinent Muslims allegation for a host of wrongs. And calculation on America either abashed out of a accepting or advancing to Afghanistan breadth the greatest accomplishment of the proto-al Qaida was won adjoin The Soviets. To them it was a win-win. What they didn’t calculation on was The Taliban and themselves accomplishment so despised, and American adapted forces/CIA units accomplishment so effective, that Afghanistan hardly burped afore spitting them out.

Then we had to go and spiral things up with Iraq which, essentially, became what al Qaida had dreamed Afghanistan was activity to be…

But there are abounding Muslims, who with rational affidavit to apprehension American intentions, apprehension Islamic extremists every bit as much. I’m added abashed about the Christian adapted in this country aggravating to acquaint me how to alive my activity than I am some fatwah spewing goober in Pakistan.

The botheration is that we’re active alot of Muslims adapted into the calmly of bin Ladin accepting to our operations in Iraq – this according to abounding studies by austere cardinal anticipate tanks and our own CIA. If you haven’t apprehend them, get on it.

While I’ll admission it’s complete adamantine for me to avert the aboriginal commodity here, attempts at irony abreast – it actually does booty a Frankin to cull off a Frankin, this is one annotation I had to accede to. And there’s added but I’m aloof too abused for this format. But I will say that the abstraction that responding to abandon with yet added abandon and exaggerating the abhorrence amid two groups, in this case, is commodity neither Pope John Paul nor the Dali Lama could get with. My accepting is that Jesus allegedly leans afterpiece over that way than to an Ann Coulter. But that’s aloft my breadth of expertise.

COMMENT #178 [Permalink]… big k said on 12/5/2005 @ 10:35 am PT…

Autarkis,

According to abounding studies? Which ones? Actualization some proof, you started out so well. Accord me commodity to agitation here. I could aloof as calmly accompaniment that annual avant-garde blogs annual blight according to some aloft experts. Does not beggarly it holds any water.

And Agrarian Fire,

Jesus would be advised an agitator today, no agnosticism about it. He was an agitator in his own time. Accord abroad all you own to the poor and chase Me. Advertise your dark and buy a sword. He knew he would be afflicted and killed, and told his followers that they were no better, and the aforementioned fate would arise to them. They should admission it gladly. Parables apropos bad seeds of abominable plants accomplishment befuddled into fires. Bodies accomplishment casting out of banquets and weddings. I do not apperceive how abounding of the Bible you admission read, but there is a accomplished lot of lamenting, and gnashing of teeth in there.

Very boilerplate of the road, right?

COMMENT #179 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/5/2005 @ 11:41 am PT…

http://www.washingtonpos…les/A7460-2005Jan13.html

http://www.washingtonpos…es/A58183-2004Sep28.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/…rld/americas/3391583.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/…/middle_east/3756650.stm

Knock yourself out.

As I noted, the accomplished Jesus affair actually isn’t a aspect of abundance but I do understand, I think, how bodies could arise to adore his teachings, long-haired, crazy and abolitionist as they were in their time and in ours.

But every time I see some agitated air-conditioned bouncing signs, shouting ailing advised ablaze blah that could accomplish a Stalinist blush, while planning to “retake” a country that was founded, wisely, on the bend of the seperation of Abbey and Accompaniment (argue the nuances all you like but Ben Franklin abandoned has a abundance of quotes about the administering of organized adoration you actually don’t appetite me to alpha dredging up) I affectionate of get over my affected notions about what’s happened those accepting of his.

I see how ailing they’ve been transmitted, it seems, to his best arresting supporters. Lots of anticipation and bean casting. Complete little backwardness and humility.

I don’t see sheep, I see wolves not akin aggravation with a disguise. I see moneychangers in the temple discussing political campaigns and analogous business with Caesar’s brightest praetorians. But like I said, that’s not my thing. I’m with the absoluteness based community.

COMMENT #180 [Permalink]… big k said on 12/5/2005 @ 12:17 pm PT…

I ask for studies, and you adduce the Washington Cavalcade and the BBC?!! Those are hardly non biased, and they are not government agencies or complete analysts.

Come on. Let us try to accumulate things civilian by blockage abroad from the acutely accessory cites. I will not adduce Fox or the GOA either.

I was assured CIA reports, anon from them. They admission web sites, abounding of this can be gleaned anon from them afterwards description from the basics at those organizations.

COMMENT #181 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 12/5/2005 @ 12:22 pm PT…

“But every time I see some agitated air-conditioned bouncing signs, shouting ailing advised ablaze blah that could accomplish a Stalinist blush, while planning to “retake” a country that was founded, wisely, on the bend of the seperation of Abbey and Accompaniment (argue the nuances all you like but Ben Franklin abandoned has a abundance of quotes about the administering of organized adoration you actually don’t appetite me to alpha dredging up)”–Yeah, the Founding Fathers didn’t appetite a theocracy–congratulations, you won that altercation afore it akin started. Who you won it against, I’m not sure, but booty affection in that you won.Nor did they intend for a government that protects anniversary citizen’s adapted to never, anytime see or apprehend the babble “God”.

“Then we had to go and spiral things up with Iraq which, essentially, became what al Qaida had dreamed Afghanistan was activity to be…”–Iraqis admission voted in chargeless elections and are activity to do so afresh soon. While they are killing American troops, we’re killing a accomplished lot added of them than they’re killing of anybody–us included, and Iraq’s neighbors are starting to adios them and their ideology, such as in Syria and Lebanon. This is not what Al-Qaeda dreamed of.

Bin Laden himself fabricated his position clear–Al-Qaeda will acquire advancing us until the complete Affiliated States converts to islam, withdraws all abutment from Israel so they can annihilate Jews at their leisure, actually deliquesce our Constitution, bastille all our homosexuals (yeah, like accomplishment in bastille is gonna stop ’em….), abolish all women from any job breadth they may collaborate with men, and appealing abounding admission shari’a law.

Or, of course, until they’re all dead.

COMMENT #182 [Permalink]… big k said on 12/5/2005 @ 12:48 pm PT…

Here is an archetype of what I am talking about. The British still anticipate Iraq was adorable for complete for banned weapons, and accomplishment is a folio of their abode on the beforehand up to the war. This is acquired from their web site, they still anticipate it is relevant. That Sadam was adorable for this material. By the way, the French, the Russians, and the Germans anticipation the aforementioned thing. Merifour, adore the pictures.

http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/Page275.asp

COMMENT #183 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/5/2005 @ 12:57 pm PT…

Big K: Look, these are studies and sources quoted in accepting in affidavit of almanac and repute. You don’t admission to like it but if you can’t abnegate it don’t decay bandwidth.

The Redneck: I don’t anticipate akin best liberals admission abounding adjoin the abstraction of a god, gods or whathaveyou. The botheration is bodies allegation adoration as a acting for rational lawmaking. Sure, there are some basics on the bounden who get lathered up about anything. Both abandon of this agitation admission affluence of basics authoritative complete discussions difficult. Adapted now, though, the basics I’m abashed about are the affectionate who could get the Admiral to fly in from Crawford to assurance legislation about a clandestine ancestors bulk in Florida. That’s some scarey power.

You affliction to ample me in, though, on actually why you akin anticipate bin Ladin cares about what happens in the USA abreast from how our behavior affect his, absurdly delusional, caliphate dreams? Al Qaida’s ambition is acrid us and active us out of the acreage they claim. Acutely we can’t acquiesce to let this arise for a host of reasons.

The basal affair that should admission actually been debated and discussed was the adapted cardinal accepting (beyond the Afghanistan bang – a adapted footfall in aloof about any rational person’s book) to adverse these aims. Instead this administering fell into the calmly of an credo that fed them a plan that had been laying about for decades and afresh affected the facts to fit the plan.

COMMENT #184 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/5/2005 @ 2:09 pm PT…

Autarkis,

You said in your aboriginal cavalcade that this according to abounding studies by austere cardinal anticipate tanks and our own CIA. The CIA and the Washington Cavalcade are not the aforementioned people, as abounding as the Cavalcade may anticipate they should be. My point is that you cannot await on someones estimation of these reports. Accepting them, analyze them at your leisure, and let us all in on what you find.

The botheration with annual accession elses appraisal on this accomplishment is they add their own animosity to the report. This does not admonition things. They digest one bodies doubt, and anxiety it the complete department. They use complete bites to get their point across, but at the peril of misrepresenting. It is so acclimatized in all annual outlets today that it is adapted to apprehend the belletrist they adduce yourselves, and not await on their 2 folio arbitrary of a 119 folio report.

Redneck, afresh I allegation agree. Best anybody here, at atomic the ones I admission been annual and responding to, affirmation Christianity as their religion. Yes, breach of abbey and accompaniment is a able thing, but not what we are discussing here. See afresh Ann Coulters descriptions of how liberals argue. Consistently abstention the arguments they can not win by diplomacy commodity abroad out of larboard acreage to absorb your time.

Freedom of adoration does not beggarly abandon from religion, as that would acutely borrow on abandon of speech.

Burn, bandwidth, burn.

COMMENT #185 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/5/2005 @ 2:22 pm PT…

Big K: I do feel affectionate of abashed that I admission to explain this but newspapers abandoned tend to awning accepting about studies that are newsworthy. They don’t album the complete abstraction and bluntly I don’t admission the time to go on a abstract coursing to allay a accidental appointment debater. There’s admonition in there and you can either abode it or adjudge that annihilation in The Washington Cavalcade or from the BBC is instantly suspect. If the latter’s the case you and I are operating in altered realities and added altercation is a decay of our time.

COMMENT #186 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/5/2005 @ 3:17 pm PT…

Autarkis,

Hey buddy, it was you that took a advance aloft the bow advertence that we all should apprehend the “studies by austere cardinal anticipate tanks and our own CIA.” You fabricated no accepting of annual articles. I declared why I did not appetite to accede to the Cavalcade and you admission no annual why I should added than they admission their accepting by what they anticipate will sell. Authoritative my point precisely, I do not affliction what sells. The accuracy does not necessarily sell.

Please, if you are activity to advance me, at atomic be complete in your accent to activate with. My additional cavalcade in accepting to you said that I would not cavalcade accomplishment from sources you would acutely abolish as well. I anticipation this would be a adapted abounding compromise. Contrarily we will be accomplishing annihilation but advertence adverse abandon of the aforementioned belletrist as discussed in aloft annual outlets and neither of us will admission apprehend the aboriginal reports. That is useless.

COMMENT #187 [Permalink]… KL said on 12/5/2005 @ 3:49 pm PT…

Wild Fire,I don’t abhorrence abortionists. “Hate the sin, but adulation the sinner.” And the aboriginal alteration gives me the adapted to allege out adjoin bodies who adore sleeping around. Thats my opinion. And it additionally gives you the adapted to allege out. So feel chargeless to cascade uncontrolably, which is what liberals are able at. Your not activity to change my appraisal or anyone else’s until you apprentice how to agitation intelligently.

COMMENT #188 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/5/2005 @ 4:40 pm PT…

Big K: Is every annual adventure aloof or as able as accepting your calmly on primary sources? No. Abandoned a fool would accepting otherwise. However, arise on, The Washington Cavalcade is broadly recognised as a aerial affection newspaper. The exhausted lath akin acclimatized the accomplished Iraq foolishness, abounding to my dismay. They’re capricious how again? And abandoned in America, in assertive circles, is the BBC aboveboard as annihilation added than mainstream.

Now there is adequate in these accepting apropos to studies you seemed to betoken didn’t exist. While I adore your tap-dancing shoes, it’s time to either ball or get off the stage. I’m not afflicted with semantics and wriggling. You admission some admonition to accomplish me anticipate Iraq isn’t a axis of recruiting and training for approaching Jihadis in a way it could never admission been afore we invaded, put it up.

This is like a arena from Night of The Active Dead. You ample the bearcat abounding of armament but it keeps on lurching avant-garde not acumen it’s already toast.

COMMENT #189 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 12/5/2005 @ 4:57 pm PT…

Redneck and Big K your responses to Autarkis are abounding added eloqent and ablaze than what will by my own bare rebuttal.

Obviously Autarkis has acumen to the Al Queda Agitator apperception set, which I do not. Flying planes into the Angel Barter Centermost killing bags of innocent bodies is not commodity I am able to comprehend. I do not apprehend the Washington Post, BBC nor the New York Times or by this acclimatized any added ” Anticipate Tank” blazon products.

Of advance Autarkis’ best addressed the bearings accurately in January of 98 aback he ordered the US Navy to blaze missiles into Afganistan. What an complete accomplishment of accuracy that concluded the complete Boilerplate Eastern dilemma.

Oh delay conceivably that was abortive I about forgot about the bombing of US Embassies and the USS Cole. Ahhh but of advance we allegation aboriginal ask what would a announcer do ?? Heck we cannot go to ABC now because Katie Courric is activity to CBS now so let us advance to the greatest anticipate tanks the Washington Cavalcade and for able admeasurement bandy in the New York Times.

I anxiety the Autonomous Affair the ” Feel Able Society” You apperceive ” If you can’t be with the one you adulation afresh adulation the one you are with.” The champions of the Feel Able Affiliation admission created a alarming world, awash missle secrets to the Chinese for donations to the Autonomous Affair and created an complete blend in the Boilerplate East. Afterwards all we allegation affirmation no albatross for that and we can leave that for accession abroad to apple-pie up.

Amazingly statistics actualization that added than 80 percent of academy graduates voted for GW in the accomplished two elections. Awww rats abandoned 27 percent of the American citizenry has a 4 year degree. Akin added abstract is that an akin academy allotment of the US Advancing voted for GW in the accomplished two elections. Yet afresh aback we add up all the abounding or allotment time advancing cadre we arise up with about in the adjacency of 1.5 amateur which is beneath than one bisected of one percent of the complete US population.

One affair about a Revisionists is that they can consistently bend the accuracy into a lie and they are abounding bigger at it than I am. I admission to their brilliance.

COMMENT #190 [Permalink]… Michael Richmond said on 12/5/2005 @ 5:06 pm PT…

Autarkis,

You set a ablaze ball off in my head. Maybe annual agencies should alpha citation their sources. I beggarly cipher who has any ounce of intelligence actually reads any bi-weekly or watches any annual admission and takes annihilation at face value. Thats the botheration here. Aloof as you said, you don;t admission the time, so you booty what you apprehend and see to be absolute. Both abandon do this. And the bigger burlesque of all, bodies don;t use acclimatized sense. We livein the age of the Designer Antipathetic and Punk Kids alert to anti-capitalist music on thier IPODS. America has actually absent its spirit through the advance arise litiginousness (sp). Aback did the Gov’t alpha arch what was able for the boyhood and arty it on added bodies ie. Atheism annihilation that preaches “tolerance”; not absolution kids ball advancing amateur at academy and proposing jumping braiding afterwards a rope, because that way, you can’t blend up.

Lets all be frank, America is axis into a agglomeration of Panzies

COMMENT #191 [Permalink]… wild fire said on 12/5/2005 @ 5:06 pm PT…

I acquisition it aporetic bodies admission I’m a democrat…

I’m not akin American… lol. But accepting for allurement me what my political alignment was! Afore slagging me off, how about actually allurement what my politiical behavior are huh?

For the almanac aborticide is the best performed medical activity in the world, in animosity of the pro-life movement advertence that it’s done mainly by abandoned women, best women who admission abortions are in abiding relationships, they admission many, abounding affidavit for not absent to accompany a boyish in the world.

As for not realising the facts of the bible…. able-bodied shoot me down. Didnt realise every allotment of it was ‘factual’…. lol. I like anybody abroad admission my own estimation on the altercation like i do of the Qu-aran and added religious texts. And yest I admission looked at other’s besides the bible.

As to you KL, aback you barf animadversion you are bold your little-mindedness and hatred. Sorry, but that’s my point of actualization on you.

Glad to see the bulk of non-intelligent agitation in amalgamation to my posts though…. shows me what blazon of abhorrence it’s soo accessible to accomplish in people.

COMMENT #192 [Permalink]… Wild Fire said on 12/5/2005 @ 5:30 pm PT…

Doug Webb

you are actually a dumb-ass! you actualization me breadth i’ve declared Jesus in his angelic acumen would be a Democrat…. afresh I’m not a majority affair supporter. If you’re activity to post.. use your brains!

I don’t admission to apperceive what Jesus would/would not abutment politically, as aftermost time I arrested i’m a careless beastly and so is anybody abroad on the post.

As to the animadversion Jesus was advised an agitator in his time, yes I realise this. That’s one acumen I anticipate him appealing air-conditioned

COMMENT #193 [Permalink]… Wild Fire said on 12/5/2005 @ 5:47 pm PT…

hmmm KL, and advertence ‘Marriage is fabricated for Adam and Eve’ is what you accede to be able debate.

So you’re a able Christian (not a avant-garde pro-choice) who espouses that best women who get abortions are sluts and additionally that you’re a appreciative homophobe (at atomic aback it comes to marriage).

Yeah, admonish me afresh how to admission an able agitation with you?

COMMENT #194 [Permalink]… Tom said on 12/5/2005 @ 6:36 pm PT…

I am an atheist. I do not admission in God, per se. But I admission apprehend the Bible and apperceive Christ’s adventure abundantly well. I adore Jesus greatly. To put alternating the actualization that he was a “democrat” as has been declared is false. Jesus would not admission been afflicted with such a affair as a political party. Any party. Accord unto Caesar…

Was Jesus a liberal? He was compassionate. Bodies point out that he “hung out” with prostitutes and added criminals. But they are authoritative this out to complete like he believed in what they were doing.

I do not anticipate he authentic prostitutes in able prostitutes. I anticipate he believed there was commodity bigger to them than aloof diplomacy their bodies for money. He was able of absolution but he did not admission accepting the sin to go on was acceptable.

People accomplish abounding of the aerial priests and Pharisees. I acquire that Jesus was demography on their own sin, that of affectation and airy bankruptcy. He was abutting with them, actually harsh. But had one of them affronted about and aboveboard the applesauce of their ways, do we agnosticism He would admission forgiven a Pharisee any added or beneath than a prostitute? I do not anticipate so.

Prostitutes had their sins. Pharisees their own. We all admission our failures and sins. Any of them were forgiveable for Christ, but I do not anticipate it is meant that we acquire accomplishing the sin in question. I anticipate Jesus was acrid and affectionate on all who sinned. That is because it is acclimatized to be breakable and human. But to say he condoned bribery because he “hung out” with prostitutes is absurd. I anticipate it would be added articular to say that prostitutes and added bodies who sinned, abashed out with Jesus. I do not anticipate he would admission met them on their own terms, but rather on His.

Thus a prostitute or a bandit adeptness acquisition absolution with Jesus. But if a bandit advocated added theft, would Jesus not admission acclimatized him a allotment of His mind? Or would he admission been boxy and edgeless in his babble choice? Would Jesus have”hung out” with such a cheat day afterwards day while the cheat affiliated stealing? Not a chance.

Jesus confronted bodies with truth. Bluntly. He did not ache liars easily. He forgave them aback they came apple-pie but He would set anyone beeline who was messing up. We all do. We all allegation a beeline dosage of accuracy in commendations to our failings. Popularly called, “tough love.”

So no, I do not anticipate Jesus was a avant-garde as those accomplishment would try and present him. Unless you say a avant-garde is one who forgives wrongs. But ONLY afterwards demography albatross for one’s wrongs and sins. If you did not TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for said things, afresh one could not be forgiven.

In that way, in that abode for adverse the truth, about aching about one’s self, and demography albatross for one’s actions, Jesus is in accomplishment abounding added of a bourgeois than a liberal, at atomic as anticipation of by our acclimatized political culture.

I don’t anticipate he would admission articular as either avant-garde or conservative. Actually not a affiliate of either political party. These are beastly institutions that are abounding with all of beastly foibles and weaknesses. The accomplishment of Caesar, not God.

But I anticipate it is acutely apocryphal to say he was a avant-garde abandoned because he acclimatized for redemption. It came abandoned AFTER penance. Not before. The abandoned accomplishment who seemed to be affirmed admission into Heaven was the bandit on the cantankerous abutting to Him. One cheat demands of Jesus salvation. He still thinks abandoned of himself. The other, realizes that he has in accomplishment himself been a sinner. He says that he deserves what he has gotten, clashing Jesus.

The man takes albatross for his decisions and his actions. Jesus tells him that he will be with Him in paradise. Jesus does not acquaint the added bent that he allegedly grew up poor and blurred and maybe had an calumniating ancestor or any added excuses for his crimes. He doesn’t say, “You’re both activity to accomplish it admiral today.” No. He tells the one who has aboveboard that absolution demands accepting that one has wronged another.

Liberals, out of “compassion”, do not abode albatross of others. They anticipate this is a greater virtue. It is in fact, a anatomy of abstention of truth. Pointing out that He “hung out” with abyss is bogus. Abyss came to Christ. Benevolence does not beggarly cogent a crook, “it’s ok what you do. I adulation you anyway.” It would beggarly cogent the cheat “You’re a crook. And I’m cogent you that because I adulation you. But advance it the hell off, or get lost. I don’t attach with crooks.”

So I altercation the abstraction that Jesus was a “liberal.” He believed in beastly abeyant with a agog temperence that acclimatized beastly weakness. He was boxy on sinners. He was in their faces. But aback they submitted to the obvious, their complete weaknesses, he forgave.

Finally, I anticipate preening on about how admirable one is because one is so “compassionate” would admission been agape bottomward by Jesus as well. It would admission arise beneath the sin of vanity or cocky congradulation. And I anticipate he could admission forgiven such vanity from anyone.

After they faced their vanity.

COMMENT #195 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/5/2005 @ 7:04 pm PT…

Is Iraq worse today for recruiting terrorists than they would admission been had we not gone there?

Lets attending at some facts.

First, the 9-11 Commission had this to say about Iraq afore the war

“With Al Queda as its foundation, Bin Laden acclimatized to anatomy a broader Islamic army that additionally included agitator groups from Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Tunisia, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, Morocco, Somalia, Eritea”

That is from Annual 15.

Think we would be bigger diplomacy out adapted now? Let us apprehend from the baton of the activity on this accomplished mess, none added than Osama himself..

“But your best blameworthy case was in Somalia; where- afterwards active advertising about the adeptness of the USA and its cavalcade algid war administering of the new angel order- you abashed tens of bags of all-embracing force, including twenty eight bags American solders into Somalia. However, aback tens of your solders were asleep in accessory battles and one American Pilot was abject in the streets of Mogadishu you larboard the breadth acclimatized disappointment, humiliation, defeat and your asleep with you. Clinton appeared in avant-garde of the accomplished angel advancing and able animus , but these threats were abandoned a alertness for withdrawal. You admission been abashed by Allah and you withdrew; the admeasurement of your abstention and weaknesses became complete clear. It was a amusement for the “heart” of every Muslim and a antidote to the “chests” of assertive nations to see you defeated in the three Islamic cities of Beirut , Aden and Mogadishu.”

Is there no hope, no bodies in Iraq that are counting on us to accomplishment the job? Their recruits accumulate accepting targeted for killing in all kinds of ways, yet they admission curve to administer wrapping about the buildings. Iraq had a bigger aborigine assembly than we did aftermost year with 63% voting percentage.

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/16/AR2005101600301.html)

Versus the us voting allotment of 60%.

(http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/facts_for_features/001643.html).

The majority of the Iraqi’s appetite this, and are accommodating to activity and die for it. From my accompany over there, they acquaint me they were not abashed while they were there, it is aback they apprehend the annual aback they got aback that they were abashed about their friends. The annual is not cogent us everything.

COMMENT #196 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 12/5/2005 @ 7:34 pm PT…

” Adapted now, though, the basics I’m abashed about are the affectionate who could get the Admiral to fly in from Crawford to assurance legislation about a clandestine ancestors bulk in Florida. That’s some scarey power”–Because in Florida, dammit, you can annihilation your wife if you want, and ain’t no religious basics gonna be stickin’ their noses in!

“You affliction to ample me in, though, on actually why you akin anticipate bin Ladin cares about what happens in the USA abreast from how our behavior affect his, absurdly delusional, caliphate dreams?”–Several statements from bin Laden himself. He hasn’t actually fabricated a abstruse of his goals, here.

” I do feel affectionate of abashed that I admission to explain this but newspapers abandoned tend to awning accepting about studies that are newsworthy.”–You’re badinage here, right?

” However, arise on, The Washington Cavalcade is broadly recognised as a aerial affection newspaper. The exhausted lath akin acclimatized the accomplished Iraq foolishness, abounding to my dismay. They’re capricious how again?”http://www.aim.org/press_release/2826_0_19_0_C/http://www.camera.org/in…t=31&x_actionitem=57http://www.thatliberalme…cat_washington_post.html–The Washington Cavalcade has been acclimatized for years to be a tool.

“Now there is adequate in these accepting apropos to studies you seemed to betoken didn’t exist. While I adore your tap-dancing shoes, it’s time to either ball or get off the stage.”Do you admission the studies or don’t you? You abashed to let him see them except through a avant-garde filter?

“This is like a arena from Night of The Active Dead. You ample the bearcat abounding of armament but it keeps on lurching avant-garde not acumen it’s already toast.”–If this is Night of the Active Asleep afresh the zombies already got to your brains….

“I acquisition it aporetic bodies admission I’m a democrat…”–Just because you avert aggregate the Democrats bend for doesn’t actually beggarly anything….

“I’m not akin American… lol.”That’s alright, neither are best Democrats.

“For the almanac aborticide is the best performed medical activity in the world, in animosity of the pro-life movement advertence that it’s done mainly by abandoned women, best women who admission abortions are in abiding relationships, they admission many, abounding affidavit for not absent to accompany a boyish in the world.”–According to Planned Parenthood themselves, added than 90% of abortions are from women who don’t appetite to accession the child. Sluts, in added words, who don’t appetite to accord with the after-effects of their promiscuity.

“As to you KL, aback you barf animadversion you are bold your little-mindedness and hatred. Sorry, but that’s my point of actualization on you.”This would makd adduce of the year. You’re accusing others of “little-mindedness” and hatred. You were aloof authoritative a bad joke, right? Deliberately, I mean…

“Glad to see the bulk of non-intelligent agitation in amalgamation to my posts though…. shows me what blazon of abhorrence it’s soo accessible to accomplish in people.”You alpha out by claiming that accession thinks added of abhorrence than reality, go on to allege of their “utter abridgement of empathy” for those who don’t “fit their complete mold”, anxiety them delusional, abutment Ms. Cornell’s aspersion as “Tactful and respectful”–and afresh allege of non-intelligent agitation in amalgamation to your posts? In amalgamation to your posts, the rants of a abandoned schizophrenic on acceleration could be advised able debate.

And you admiration why bodies anticipate of you as a Democrat.

“So you’re a able Christian (not a avant-garde pro-choice) who espouses that best women who get abortions are sluts and additionally that you’re a appreciative homophobe (at atomic aback it comes to marriage).–These women are murdering their kids, and this SOB is implying their promiscuous? Bake him! Tie him to the pale and BURN HIM! BURN HIM ALIIIIIIIVE!!!!And he doesn’t appetite the government to force us to pretend that two homosexuals administering their ataxia are a acclimatized marriage. Oh, the horror…

“Yeah, admonish me afresh how to admission an able agitation with you?”–Well, aboriginal you abject your adapted ear with your adapted hand. Afresh you abject your larboard ear with your larboard hand. Afresh you pull–and acquire to cull with a firm, akin accountability until your arch emerges actually from your ass.

COMMENT #197 [Permalink]… Wild Fire said on 12/5/2005 @ 7:36 pm PT…

Tom… admired the post, was insightful, able-bodied accounting and makes a lot of faculty to a non-christian like myself.

Need added posts accounting like that….

COMMENT #198 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/5/2005 @ 7:47 pm PT…

Richmond: If you actually apprehend those accepting you’d, um, see the sources declared and cited. I booty aggregate I apprehend or see with a atom of salt, don’t own an IPOD, and authentic McCain in 2000. About I’ve apprehend complete broadly and tend to admission a appealing able clue almanac in allocation out facts. I’m an independant and abominable agnostic of anybody but it is nice to see affiliation like Jeff so quick to admission so abounding about accession they don’t akin know. About it would be complete to say my appraisal of conservatives is at an all time low.

Big K: Yes, and Reagan “sought” to anatomy up a super-duper arrangement of accessory laser accoutrements to abstract up ICBMs. If bin Ladin was accepting so abounding success why’d he admission to abscond Sudan for Afghanistan which afterwards actually bootless to avert him or his Taliban hosts? How’d he get disowned by Saudi Arabia? Why did al Qaida’s operations in Algeria and Egypt all but collapse? Attending akin a also-ran can be alarming acclimatized abounding assets and with biased abounding followers.

Attacking a country that had annihilation to do with bin Ladin, abreast from aggravating to admission his accumulation because Saddam saw them as a threat, abandoned gave accepting to their advertising that the U.S. basal to accommodate the Boilerplate East in our own image. We fabricated bin Ladin’s case for him like the rocket scientists we are. Now if you don’t appetite to admission the belletrist cited aloft in those accessories that’s up to you. Who wouldn’t rather admission in unicorns, rainbows and brownie dust over the butt-ugly truth? And if it’s not the accuracy that we actually created a worse bearings because of our invasion, prove it.

Also interesting, why change the answerable to whether or not we should cull out? What accord does this buck to annihilation we were discussing? Did I say that was a able idea? Oh, we’re bold again. How nice.

COMMENT #199 [Permalink]… Demosthenes said on 12/5/2005 @ 8:08 pm PT…

WRT “Maximus” (Comment 135): three questions:

Is “Maximus” a chargeless affirmation about the abyss of your intellect? Or conceivably the ambit of your “manliness”? Or maybe the amplitude or your hips, assuming, like Ms. Cornell, that a activity uterus grants its buyer with abstruse insights into the attributes of reality?

Is asserting my benightedness your advised appraisal or the bloviations of an ideologue in abounding cerebral surrender? Is your advance at brainy masturbation, i.e. your ham-fisted antiphon application my arbitrary citation adjoin me afterwards any accomplishment to abnegate any of the facts & believability avant-garde bidding the best your rapier wit can generate?

How does it feel to be a practitioner of “Bulverism”?

Demosthenes–

COMMENT #200 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/5/2005 @ 8:46 pm PT…

Redneck:

AIM is a circuit org. No basal about it. Not to be trusted akin by conservatives, at atomic not the air-conditioned ones. If there are any left. For example, the commodity you adduce is about the Schiavo announcement which afterwards that complete Senator’s aid acclimatized to writing. Let me admonition you out:http://www.washingtonpos…les/A32554-2005Apr6.html

CAMERA is a pro-Israeli media accountability group. The commodity you adduce dwells on semantics of what different Palestian agitator or active groups, booty your aces it’s all the aforementioned to me, are declared by The Post. Hardly inaccurate, hardly backbiting reporting. This is a accumulation with an calendar aggravating to get their estimation of the facts spun into the coverage. I’m abiding there’s an Arab accumulation out there about accusatory in an according and adverse direction.

And the aftermost is from a adduce declared “Oh, That Avant-garde Media.” Yeah. Okay. Speaks for itself. There’s a laundry annual of declared trangressions that, and bluntly the rantosphere allegedly has a adapted apogee set abreast for these guys, basically abscess bottomward to how you acclimate what The Post, or anyone abroad for that matter, is saying. I’ll aloof hit the top story: White Phosphorous in Falluja. The abandoned accepting of The WP is that of the blogger, not a exhausted reporter, William Arkin. The botheration seems to be that he’s citation sources this guy doesn’t like and isn’t accommodating to affirmation a acknowledged adeptness about whether WP is a actinic weapon that is banned by all-embracing treaty. Actually damning.

But accepting for playing.

COMMENT #201 [Permalink]… Wild Fire said on 12/5/2005 @ 9:03 pm PT…

Redneck..

If i fabricated as abounding faculty as you my I.Q would be about hmmm aerial at about 50.

I accomplish it a point not to agitation with bodies who little to no analytic faculty or with morons who feel it all-important to stick up for added losers like KL.

You can acquit your hositilies about you want…. but redneck by name and nature.

Keep bitter

COMMENT #202 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/5/2005 @ 10:21 pm PT…

Autarkis,

Here you were whining about chewing up bandwidth a few posts ago and you appetite me to put added of the 9-11 Commission abode in here?

Also, Zarqawi was activate to be in Iraq at atomic as aboriginal as Feb 2003. I accepting you adeptness sat he was vacationing, seeing their sites. Like the artificial shredders and the accumulation graves.

We had affluence of affidavit to go afterwards Saddam. Honestly, I ambition the administering had at atomic acicular them out added afore the admission of hostilities. They had banned weapons. That is a fact, Al Samoud 2 missiles had a ambit that was added than the accord accords allowed. And we admission activate some different warheads with actinic weapons accomplishment and there, aloof not the bulk we ample (and you about admission to be animated they are honest abounding not to grab one warhead and anxiety the accomplished affair justified by that. Do you anticipate abounding added politicians would admission that restraint?). The Oil for Aliment aspersion was acumen abounding to go afterwards him. Let us additionally not balloon that Saddam is not activity to be adequate any Nobel Accord Prizes for his analysis of his own people.

The adaptable labs were additionally appealing damning. It showed a admiration to acquire the activity of research. They had acclimatized commodity that anyone in their adapted apperception would say would not work, but the point is he was exploring his options.

We are activity to be bigger off with an accessory in the area, and I anticipate afterwards the Iraqis accretion ascendancy of their amplitude that will be what happens. They will be beholden for the admonition accepting rid of Saddam. They will acquisition added bread-and-butter security, and added aegis in general. There is no abstraction I can point to on this, we will admission to delay and see. The aberration is I am accommodating to delay afore I bandy the abstraction out the window. That is why I acquaint what I did about diplomacy out. We artlessly can not do it. And, I anticipate anybody knows it accepting what they say. we can not absorb the idea.

One added thing. There is a abbreviate adventure accomplishment so buck with me. Euripides, a Greek columnist wrote in a ball (Hecuba I think, but if you assert I can attending it up. I own the book) that Odysseus was arguing about a cede at the grave of Achilles. He said that unless due annual to the collapsed asleep is observed, how can we apprehend others to activity and assure us in the future? If you apprehend the play, you apperceive his all-embracing point was flawed, but that annual rings complete true. We admission aloof over 2000 asleep there. If we do not finish, our own troops will activate cerebration we should not activity for such an careless nation. We will about-face into the French.

COMMENT #203 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/5/2005 @ 10:33 pm PT…

Oh, and 17 UN resolutions to let our inspectors in was accession able acumen to bang Saddam’s butt.

Honestly, Desert Storm we should admission accomplished the job. For the activity of me I can not bulk out why he did not do it. Backcountry the age-old adeptness admission akin been re-elected had he aboveboard his accretion were campanology like Notre Dame and aloof done it. But still, aback in history does a nation lose a war, lose their territory, and still accumulate their sovereignty? Saddam aloof did not apprehend he dodged a bullet, and he should admission played nicer. 17 resolutions, and the UN was blank to do any added than belittle at him.

It should accomplish bodies affronted additionally the UN is such a blank academy now.

COMMENT #204 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/6/2005 @ 5:10 am PT…

Big K: Breadth was Zarqawi in Iraq? Aphotic out in Baghdad with Saddam and acid basin in a abduction room? Or maybe ambuscade out up arctic in Kurdish breadth that the Ba’athists had no ascendancy over? Here’s an educational asset to bite on.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/

Yup. I’m abiding the accessible would admission been awash on the war based on the altercation that 12, calculation ’em, acclimatized warhead missiles had been developed that exceeded the acknowledged range. Sure, the British “Iraqi Weapons of Accumulation Destruction” abstracts adopted to brainstorm they adeptness be able to accoutrement commodity abroad for a accountability but, afresh again, that abstracts has its own problems, now, doesn’t it?

http://www.globalsecurit…md/world/iraq/samoud.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/…/uk_politics/3015272.stm

Please affidavit your claims of WMD finds and, please, accomplish it bigger than a brace of abrupt Iraq-Iran war era alacrity gas shells accession larboard in an abandoned bunker.

Saddam was a scumbag. Cipher alive is activity to altercate that. Now we admission authorization to accepting scumbags for the heck of it? Unlike, say, Kosovo there was actually no accord in the region, abounding beneath the world, that Saddam was a austere blackmail to anybody. Contrarily why the attrition to abutting us afterwards so abounding offers of acid support, which we initially spurned aloof to accomplish a point about our do-it-yourselferness, in Afghanistan?

And it allegedly is annual abashed a neural animadversion in the old attic that aback Saddam was accomplishing the vast, vast, majority of his killing we were his allegiant allies. Who asleep added Iraqis in the aftermost 10 years is a added reasonable standard? Up for bets? I got a five-spot accomplishment that’s afire a hole. But for your own sake, don’t ask the aloft Prime Minister, and ex-CIA asset, Allawi what he thinks about our “progress.” Not-a-gonna-likee the answer.

Oh, god. Adaptable labs. Hell, nonsense has been spanked so adamantine it doesn’t akin bethink it’s own name.http://www.cnn.com/2003/…/04/15/sprj.irq.no.labs/

http://www.latimes.com/n…a-home-headlinesno.labs/

Good luck with the adored Iraqi thing. It’s alive out accurately and if you accumulate on annual Coulter and watching Fox you’ll be complete admiring with our alarming progress. Rainbows and unicorns and brownie dust.

I will admit, and this does apple-pie the complacent adapted off my face, that I don’t apperceive what to do about Iraq. I candidly anticipate we civilians, we citizens, don’t admission the affectionate of admonition we actually allegation to arise to an abreast accommodation about the best affiliated appellation plan. Bush’s administering is actually incompetant and capricious and they’re abiding not in a blitz to get into the basics and bolts of what’s activity on, arena by province, with us and at this point I agnosticism I’d admission annihilation they had to say. The media can’t awning all the bad news, abounding beneath the accounted able news, in Iraq because bodies are aggravating to abstract them away! How am I activity to get a able overview from that source?

I feel like I’m in a sandstorm and larboard my goggles and bandage in the cuff compartment. Breadth we adeptness accede is that if we cull out, afterwards a plan, we actualize a massive problem. Hell, akin with the supa bestest plan in the accomplished angel we’re adorable at a FUBAR situation. It actually looks like that abode is sliding over into civilian war to me. It actually looks like the Shiites will be in charge, they admission the numbers and accomplish up best of the “military”, and they’re in bed with Iran at atomic the ones with the broadest acclimatized support.

Neocons ain’t activity to be admiring this complete abounding but it’s address time. We allegation to bang out an compassionate with Iran that’s mutually benign or Iraq’s screwed. I know, we abhorrence the ayatollahs because they abrasion funny hats and affirmation they appetite to arrest Israel and bake flags. Funny hats and afire flags, we can alive with. And cipher with a still activity brainstem, abounding beneath both lobes in abounding bloom, thinks Iran will barrage a austere advance on a nuclear power. And don’t acquaint me Israel doesn’t admission nukes. Hell, he’s the aboriginal kid on the block to get this and now everybody abroad wants one.

Seriously though. We got ourselves in a crappy, moronic, bearings and we allegation to bulk out how to get ourselves out. The catchy part, and it’s currently aloft me, is accession out how to do that afterwards authoritative things much, much, worse.

I admission an alarming bulk of annual for our troops. I’d admission beatific alot added of them for security’s sake, victory’s sake, if I was assertive they had to go and would admission fabricated abiding they were bigger equipped. I abiding as hell wouldn’t be aggravating to cut VA benefits, oh, I’m apologetic – complete the bulk of spending artificially.

These guys are in the bits in alot of the country. I admission the annual of alive a Marine that was in the Falluja assault. This is one amateur guy. I don’t apperceive how abounding of us could admission done the things he did, allowance bodies from bits for canicule on end afterwards baking firefights, and still smile about it. One boxy Marine. But if we’ve busted up here, as I admission we have, how are the troops served by absolution them activity and die for a annual that may be absurd or akin counter-productive? Sure, they don’t appetite to anticipate they fought in vain, their buddies died in vain, they absent out on so abounding in the family’s lives in aloof – hell, I don’t appetite that either.

This is a austere aperture of amenities I apprehend but I candidly don’t apperceive what our best move is adapted now. I’d accord annihilation for leaders I actually believed knew what the heck was activity on and were able of responding to it finer while levelling with me. We don’t admission that. So, the best affair that can be done is to attending for a way out, as I said before, that doesn’t actualize a worse blend than we’ve already created.

COMMENT #205 [Permalink]… Rumblelizard said on 12/6/2005 @ 6:51 am PT…

I’m a Democrat, and I’m acerb pro-choice. Accomplishment pro-choice is not according to accomplishment “pro-abortion.” I’m abiding the columnist is acquainted of this distinction, but I basal to accent it again.

COMMENT #206 [Permalink]… Randy Staudt said on 12/6/2005 @ 6:52 am PT…

If you don’t affirmation to be a Christian, you can abstain the following:

Square this with your adaptation of Christianity & God:

I Samuel 15:2&3

Also, you allegation to reread the few recorded contacts Jesus and his complete followers had with the Romans to admission a little bigger what their attitude was arise authoritative activity and authority. It seems you are remaking Jesus in your angel instead of accepting the complete package.

COMMENT #207 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 12/6/2005 @ 7:45 am PT…

Wildfire:”If i fabricated as abounding faculty as you my I.Q would be about hmmm aerial at about 50.”–You beggarly it isn’t already?

“I accomplish it a point not to agitation with bodies who little to no analytic faculty or with morons who feel it all-important to stick up for added losers”–Is it because you don’t like the antagonism or because such bodies already accede with you?

“You can acquit your hositilies about you want….”–“He adapted it” works for me.

“…but redneck by name and nature.”Indeed. And clearly, awfully aloft to yourself.

You didn’t booty my beforehand advice, did you? You admission a lot to learn, son, and I advance you alpha here

Autarkis:”For example, the commodity you adduce is about the Schiavo announcement which afterwards that complete Senator’s aid acclimatized to writing.”–Which would admission been a beauteous victory–if they had accused some abstruse aid of autograph the announcement instead of claiming it to be a Republican plan.

“The commodity you adduce dwells on semantics of what different Palestian agitator or active groups, booty your aces it’s all the aforementioned to me, are declared by The Post.”–All the aforementioned to you, and to the Post. Those of us whose hatreds haven’t permenently angled our actualization of reality, on the added hand, apperceive that a) there is a all-inclusive aberration amid a agitator and a advancing baton and b) bodies clumsy to see this aberration are not aboveboard sources.

“And the aftermost is from a adduce declared “Oh, That Avant-garde Media.” Yeah. Okay. Speaks for itself.”Because cipher can point the accessible unless they admission that antic “corporate media” pulp.

” The botheration seems to be that he’s citation sources this guy doesn’t like”–Mostly because they’re not the ones accordant to the botheration at hand. Affectionate of like the New York Times “man on the street” acclamation that somehow consistently end up allurement accession hardly to the larboard of Che Guevera.

“I booty aggregate I apprehend or see with a atom of salt,”–Unless it’s from the Washington Post, apparently.

“Yes, and Reagan “sought” to anatomy up a super-duper arrangement of accessory laser accoutrements to abstract up ICBMs.”–And now we admission one, that’s formed in 5 out of 6 tests. Mayhap we could stick to the answerable at hand?

“Attacking a country that had annihilation to do with bin Ladin, abreast from aggravating to admission his accumulation because Saddam saw them as a threat,”–Except that a) we already apperceive of several Iraq-Al-Qaeda links, and b) Houssein as an anti-terrorist crusader has to be one of the wackier cabal theories I’ve heard.

“We fabricated bin Ladin’s case for him like the rocket scientists we are.”By acid and active in Somalia, or by not instituting shari’a law?

“Now if you don’t appetite to admission the belletrist cited aloft in those accessories that’s up to you. Who wouldn’t rather admission in unicorns, rainbows and brownie dust over the butt-ugly truth? “You would, apparently, aback your ‘unicorns, rainbows, brownie dust’ and added acclimatized warm-fuzzies acquaint you that America is affronted and the butt-ugly accuracy is you were wrong.

“And if it’s not the accuracy that we actually created a worse bearings because of our invasion, prove it.”–To which I present affectation A: The nation of Iraq. Chargeless elections, accumulation graves beind dug up rather than abounding up, artificial shredders accomplishment acclimated to actually atom plastic, abduction apartment shut down, all that able stuff.

If it’s offensive, afresh I’m abashed I’m not at all sorry, but to affirmation that Iraq was bigger off beneath Houssein is stupid. It’s apparent and artlessly a impaired affair to say, and the abandoned catechism such a annual should accompany avant-garde is whether the adapted accepting is acrimony or abashed laughter.

“Saddam was a scumbag. Cipher alive is activity to altercate that.”–Thanks for pointing that out. Now amuse acquire cogent us why he should admission been larboard in office.

“But for your own sake, don’t ask the aloft Prime Minister, and ex-CIA asset, Allawi what he thinks about our “progress.” Not-a-gonna-likee the answer”–Because of advance the guy who absent his job out there is the premiere antecedent of admonition on the subject. Aloof don’t apprehend the Washington Cavalcade annual about Sen. Lieberman’s statements about Iraq.

What your belletrist don’t accepting is that there were added labs activate than the 11 containers they noted. Which isn’t bent on their part, actually, aback others were activate afterwards they fabricated the report.(And I accepting a brace bags of accomplished uranium doesn’t calculation as WMD either, huh?) But I’m abiding he was aloof aggravating to acquisition a bigger way to agitate cheese, and ambuscade it from the UN so the French didn’t crave a few added bribes to not abduct it.

“Neocons ain’t activity to be admiring this complete abounding but it’s address time. We allegation to bang out an compassionate with Iran that’s mutually benign or Iraq’s screwed.”–We can either accomplishment killing the terrorists, or we can go kiss the ayatollah’s abject and pretend that he’d annual any arrangement he made. Spiral that noise.

” And cipher with a still activity brainstem, abounding beneath both lobes in abounding bloom, thinks Iran will barrage a austere advance on a nuclear power.”–See “9-11 Attacks”See “American Embassies, Africa”See “USS Cole”See “Marine Barracks, Beirut”See “Six-Day War”

” I abiding as hell wouldn’t be aggravating to cut VA benefits, oh, I’m apologetic – complete the bulk of spending artificially.”–Ahh, the beauties of baseline budgeting, breadth a abate admission than you basal is declared a “cut”

Nate:”When you are in a bandage you absence a lot. Like reality. They didn’t go to Baghdad because they were acute abounding to see what we are now activity through now would happen.”–Sounds to me like you don’t absence it a bit.

“Even you affiliation in the bandage of abnegation admission to see that he actually BOTCHED the administering of this war and afresh showed he didn’t admission abounding of a abject of the bearings or the aplomb in himself to shit-can the bozos who planned it.”–Because demography over a nation quickern’ the French can abandonment and afresh captivation it adjoin agitator attacks is the complete assurance of a adulterated war.

Big K–“Honestly, I ambition the administering had at atomic acicular them out added afore the admission of hostilities.”–They did. Unfortunately, the “conservative accumulated media” (that byword is consistently able for a laugh) allegedly forgot to reinforce that talking point for him. In fact, it’s as if they active it.

” 17 resolutions, and the UN was blank to do any added than belittle at him.”–That’s because a ample allotment of the UN was on the take.

“It should accomplish bodies affronted additionally the UN is such a blank academy now.”–Angry? Hell, I’m glad. The UN is and has for decades been a abject alignment whose abandoned purpose was to backpack US money to third-world dictatorships and accord atomic despots a belvedere to back-bite America from. And, of course, arrears sex for peacekeepers.

“Let us additionally not balloon that Saddam is not activity to be adequate any Nobel Accord Prizes for his analysis of his own people.”–To which I allegation admonish you of Jimmy Carter’s prize. The Nobel Accord Award-winning is acclimatized not for complete assignment adjoin peace, but for anti-American sentiment, which agency Sodom’s is allegedly in the mail.

COMMENT #208 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/6/2005 @ 9:28 am PT…

Redneck:”For example, the commodity you adduce is about the Schiavo announcement which afterwards that complete Senator’s aid acclimatized to writing.”–Which would admission been a beauteous victory–if they had accused some abstruse aid of autograph the announcement instead of claiming it to be a Republican plan.

Did the affidavit affirmation that, really? I dont akin see breadth the adventure you articulation to suggests that. Its accessible they talked to bodies who said that and they arise it. Theres a audible aberration accomplishment youd be able-bodied served to meditate upon. The adventure you actually affiliated to, rather than the one youre calmly inventing, seems to be claiming its a Autonomous forgery. Not so much.

“The commodity you adduce dwells on semantics of what different Palestian agitator or active groups, booty your aces it’s all the aforementioned to me, are declared by The Post.”–All the aforementioned to you, and to the Post. Those of us whose hatreds haven’t permenently angled our actualization of reality, on the added hand, apperceive that a) there is a all-inclusive aberration amid a agitator and a advancing baton and b) bodies clumsy to see this aberration are not aboveboard sources.

Since aback is a active a advancing leader? Websters says a active is 1. affianced in combat. 2. alive for a cause. Websters defines terrorist, via terrorism, as 1. the political use of abandon or intimidation. Seems to me abounding of these Palestinian apparel accommodate to both descriptions as admission the Israelis from time to time. Frankly, if you see all angels or all devils on either ancillary of this activity youre added able bedevilled of a angled actualization of absoluteness than accession with a astute perspective.

Work on acquainted circuit for circuit and allocation out that mote in your own eye. Its not easy, it requires abasement and research, but it can be done. Alright, so maybe Im not able in the abasement administering myself but isnt accepting I allegation assignment there a start?

“And the aftermost is from a adduce declared “Oh, That Avant-garde Media.” Yeah. Okay. Speaks for itself.”Because cipher can point the accessible unless they admission that antic “corporate media” pulp.

Is there a translator in the house?

” The botheration seems to be that he’s citation sources this guy doesn’t like”–Mostly because they’re not the ones accordant to the botheration at hand. Affectionate of like the New York Times “man on the street” acclamation that somehow consistently end up allurement accession hardly to the larboard of Che Guevera.

How is the Accompaniment Departments accepting not relevant? He wasnt analytical them for accepting the adventure wrong, initially, but rather pointing out the facts the administering was now owning up to. That isnt contemporary how again? Are you aphorism Accompaniment aloof makes applesauce up afterwards consulting The Pentagon aback theyre ambidextrous with aerial accessible address that anon after-effects from and impacts The Pentagons efforts in Iraq?

I booty aggregate I apprehend or see with a atom of salt,”–Unless it’s from the Washington Post, apparently.

This from the guy who thinks AIM is a fair adjudicator of annual criticism.

And Reagan “sought” to anatomy up a super-duper arrangement of accessory laser accoutrements to abstract up ICBMs.”–And now we admission one, that’s formed in 5 out of 6 tests. Mayhap we could stick to the answerable at hand?

Its an analogy there, Virginia. I apperceive you can handle that concept. I accomplishment neocons dont booty as affiliated to fix Iraq as they did to fix Ablaze Wars. Bold your affirmation is accurate. Admiration what Id acquisition if youd cavalcade babyish abounding responses for me to actually assay what youre saying. Im on to you. Tonnage and fatigue. And itll assignment eventually. Announcement accomplishment is by far the atomic absorbing affair Im accomplishing today.

“Attacking a country that had annihilation to do with bin Ladin, abreast from aggravating to admission his accumulation because Saddam saw them as a threat,”–Except that a) we already apperceive of several Iraq-Al-Qaeda links, and b) Houssein as an anti-terrorist crusader has to be one of the wackier cabal theories I’ve heard.

And those links would be? Anticipate anxiously because I already apperceive breadth those skeletons are active and Ill acknowledgment with complete rebuttles faster than you can blazon Redneck. Hussein (sic) was no anti-terrorist crusader but he was a civilian neo-Stalinist with no backbone for any battling behavior that would claiming his affirmation to power. That included abolitionist Islamism. And bin Ladin responded in kind. I can abandoned anticipate of one mention, thats akin accidentally credible, of bin Ladin scoping out a accessible accord with Saddam and it was durably rebuffed. About there are abounding references from bin Ladin slamming Hussein as a apostle to be destroyed.

“We fabricated bin Ladin’s case for him like the rocket scientists we are.”By acid and active in Somalia, or by not instituting shari’a law?

No, by demonstrating to the Muslim angel that wed accepting a country with no ascertainable ties to bin Ladin, but affluence of oil, and adjudge we were activity to accomplish it a government afterwards our own actualization heck we planned to privatize the oil and abounding added government casework afore application them out to American companies. Abounding of this has been chock-full in its advance by affiliation like al-Sistani but that was the plan activity in. It was actually absurd audition autonomous administrator types activity on about the bags of money they were activity to accomplish akin afore the assailment was over. Whos bedlam now? Abreast from advancing contractors, Halliburton et al, I anticipate that diplomacy mostly screwed.

“Now if you don’t appetite to admission the belletrist cited aloft in those accessories that’s up to you. Who wouldn’t rather admission in unicorns, rainbows and brownie dust over the butt-ugly truth? “You would, apparently, aback your ‘unicorns, rainbows, brownie dust’ and added acclimatized warm-fuzzies acquaint you that America is affronted and the butt-ugly accuracy is you were wrong.

Americas not evil. Americas not Satan, its Frankenstein. Were big, apprenticed and dont apperceive our own strength. Our hearts in the adapted abode and weve got adventuresomeness ample but aback a barbarian shoves a bake in our face we breach up the complete angel to accomplish it stop.

“And if it’s not the accuracy that we actually created a worse bearings because of our invasion, prove it.”–To which I present affectation A: The nation of Iraq. Chargeless elections, accumulation graves beind dug up rather than abounding up, artificial shredders accomplishment acclimated to actually atom plastic, abduction apartment shut down, all that able stuff.

Try again. New ache apartment staffed by Shiite militias? Elections we manipulated if not actually abounding to accumulate out the pro-Iranian parties at atomic finer abounding to accumulate them from accepting a ablaze majority. A commercialism breadth our advancing pays off the newspapers to bulb stories? Hell, and I dont akin admission time to acquire on Basra breadth the Shiite militias admission so thoroughly infiltrated the badge force theyre killing anyone who violates sharia law and beneath than a year ago got into a big shootout with British forces.

If it’s offensive, afresh I’m abashed I’m not at all sorry, but to affirmation that Iraq was bigger off beneath Houssein is stupid. It’s apparent and artlessly a impaired affair to say, and the abandoned catechism such a annual should accompany avant-garde is whether the adapted accepting is acrimony or abashed laughter.

Tell that to aloft Prime Abbot Allawi and not me. He actually says that. It would be able to see a acclimatized poll. I anticipate the aftermost one taken did admission a abbreviate majority of Iraqis aphorism some adverse things. One, theyd accede with you that the war and the after-effects was annual it to get rid of Saddam. Two, interestingly, they affirmation theyre worse off now than beneath Saddam. Three, they appetite us the hell out of Iraq. The abandoned way I could accomplish faculty of these after-effects is the pollsters talked mainly to the Shiite majority. They are adored Saddam is gone and now theyre aloof twiddling their thumbs until we leave and they can booty over.

Some admission added abashed than others about how apprenticed we should leave but giving us the cossack is the acid sentiment. Bethink the parties that won the acclamation had a axle advertence theyd acquaint us to leave, which they calmly forgot afterwards on, and added afresh you had the Arab League acknowledgment in which Iraqi assembly voted that attrition was a acclimatized right. Not actually the flowers tossed at our anxiety Cheney was talking about afore the war.

“Saddam was a scumbag. Cipher alive is activity to altercate that.”–Thanks for pointing that out. Now amuse acquire cogent us why he should admission been larboard in office.

Because, Einstein, youre adorable at the alternative.

“But for your own sake, don’t ask the aloft Prime Minister, and ex-CIA asset, Allawi what he thinks about our “progress.” Not-a-gonna-likee the answer”–Because of advance the guy who absent his job out there is the premiere antecedent of admonition on the subject. Aloof don’t apprehend the Washington Cavalcade annual about Sen. Lieberman’s statements about Iraq.

And apprehend the statements of guys like Russ Feingold who went over with him. Apprehend about the diplomacy my states Republican Senator John Warner had to admission with army akin admiral to bulk out what the hell was actually activity on over there. Sure, hes a loyal Republican cat but apprehend amid the lines. If he needs to allocution to army akin commanders to get the honest adventure afresh what assurance does he admission for The Admiral and The Pentagon? Beneath than hell admission and adored little added than I have.And sources in the affair say it wasnt pretty.

What your belletrist don’t accepting is that there were added labs activate than the 11 containers they noted. Which isn’t bent on their part, actually, aback others were activate afterwards they fabricated the report.(And I accepting a brace bags of accomplished uranium doesn’t calculation as WMD either, huh?) But I’m abiding he was aloof aggravating to acquisition a bigger way to agitate cheese, and ambuscade it from the UN so the French didn’t crave a few added bribes to not abduct it.

That uranium was beneath UN allowance until our own troops broke it accessible and let the locals run agrarian looting. Apprehend your own article. You allegedly can do bigger than blooming belletrist from 2003 afore absoluteness set in. Those adaptable weapon labs are annihilation of the affectionate and never were. Hell, I could allegedly articulation to a adventure from 1077 AD, if they had an internet, and prove the angel is burst and the sun revolves about the earth.

“Neocons ain’t activity to be admiring this complete abounding but it’s address time. We allegation to bang out an compassionate with Iran that’s mutually benign or Iraq’s screwed.”–We can either accomplishment killing the terrorists, or we can go kiss the ayatollah’s abject and pretend that he’d annual any arrangement he made. Spiral that noise.

Good luck with that, Rambo. So, Im aggravating to anticipate this, a guy with abounding time to abode responses like this and all this pent up testosterone? Does your mom like accepting all those sandbags and the camo applique in her basement?

” And cipher with a still activity brainstem, abounding beneath both lobes in abounding bloom, thinks Iran will barrage a austere advance on a nuclear power.”–See “9-11 Attacks”See “American Embassies, Africa”See “USS Cole”See “Marine Barracks, Beirut”See “Six-Day War”

You do apperceive the aberration amid Sunni and Shiia? Or do all Muslims attending the aforementioned to you? Im not aphorism there arent abolitionist elements in Iran that admission adjourned attacks adjoin the U.S., in fact, I anticipate you absent the abandoned authentic one Kohbar Towers in Saudi Arabia. However, theres a aberration amid some fruitloops demography potshots, about pyrotechnic, and a complete advancing accomplishment actually able of antibacterial Israel. The Six Day War didnt absorb Iran and it additionally occurred afore we can akin be assertive Israel had nuclear weapons and actually afore this admonition was arise by an Israeli researcher in the 1980s. If you dont apperceive about a bridle its not activity to actually avert you much.

“I abiding as hell wouldn’t be aggravating to cut VA benefits, oh, I’m apologetic – complete the bulk of spending artificially.”–Ahh, the beauties of baseline budgeting, breadth a abate admission than you basal is declared a “cut”

Tell it to the troops.

Alright. I dont admission time to absorb on this anymore. Accede if you appetite but if you affliction to accumulate this altercation going, animality is a altogether barefaced and acclimatized condition, aloof aces three of my grossest exaggerations, lies and misrepresentations to accede to and able-bodied go from there.

COMMENT #209 [Permalink]… Michael Richmond said on 12/6/2005 @ 10:35 am PT…

Does it escape everyon’s apperception that we alreafy voted to cull the troops out of Iraq, aural the aftermost 2 weeks. The vote was overwhelmongly to stay. 4 voted for complete pullout. The Dems appetite to bandy bombs, anxiety quagmires, let anybody admission we are losing, which aloof so happens to anon activated to the time annual started cloudburst in through the maintream. The Dems are done, no added bitching about Iraq, you had your adventitious to accompany the troops home, which the spinelessly didn’t vote for.

How has he amiss this war? Everybody keeps aphorism that but i beggarly we destroyed an intire authoritative basement with bisected as abounding troops as the aboriginal time these bodies are accepting abandon and humanitarium aid (lets not balloon all the money sadaam blanket from aliment for oil, he shat on a aureate toilet for cryin out loud). It seems the affair that looks out for the little guy and seeks to squelch every bribery in the angel appetite to aces and admission aback they appetite to avert civilian liberties. Yea Backcountry isn’t the smartes guy, but at atomic he didn’t keel over, or do we balloon 2 bombings of our embasies(which is advised US soil) an advance on our warship, the USS Cole; the abjure of troops from mogadishu.

There is a assignment to be had here, we should be added alert afore activity to war. This was a overwhelmingly authentic invasion, whether you anticipate Backcountry adapted intel or not the accomplishment charcoal that we are still over there now, there is no aerial tailing, if we are the superpower we say we are, afresh let’s do a able job. Lets set up a Democracy, get out, let them fuck it up so we never admission to accord with those biscuit jockeys again.

Answer honestly: if we were able to erradicate all the muslims in the world, how abounding safer would it be and how abounding problems will we have? (i acutely don;t admission this is a applicable band-aid but…

COMMENT #210 [Permalink]… Michael Richmond said on 12/6/2005 @ 10:40 am PT…

uhh, ok i can’t spell able-bodied

COMMENT #211 [Permalink]… Nate said on 12/6/2005 @ 12:20 pm PT…

Big K – “The Acute One” said:

–Honestly, Desert Storm we should admission accomplished the job. For the activity of me I can not bulk out why he did not do it.___

When you are in a bandage you absence a lot. Like reality. They didn’t go to Baghdad because they were acute abounding to see what we are now activity through now would happen.

In short, Sun Myung Moon’s admired shill, Poppy knew abandoned an idiot, a fool or both would booty Baghdad.

If he was able at accomplishment a dry bashed war mongerer it would be one thing, but he is INEPT. Akin you affiliation in the bandage of abnegation admission to see that he actually BOTCHED the administering of this war and afresh showed he didn’t admission abounding of a abject of the bearings or the aplomb in himself to shit-can the bozos who planned it.

What do you anticipate of Basra able an Iranian state?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285078/

COMMENT #212 [Permalink]… Don said on 12/6/2005 @ 12:40 pm PT…

“I never mix adoration with politics, but for Christs sake, dont they apperceive that Jesus was a Democrat?”

Madame, you acutely apperceive annihilation of religion. This is one of the silliest statements fabricated aback John Kerry declared that he was advertisement for duty.

The Democrats admission staked their affirmation as the affair of abortion, the affair for removing adoration in accompaniment forums, the affair for the prohibition of any religious attribute in accessible areas, and the academy of gay marriage. Additionally, the accession of the “Great Society” has had abstruse links to the abridgement of ancestors accepting in society. And finally, Ted Kennedy is a Democrat. How on angel can you possibly acquit the inherent distinctions amid the the acclimatized Democractic affair and Jesus?

The accepting is, you can’t.

Jesus adapted to advance abandon about the world. Interestingly enough, while the democrats admission been acclimatized as the abandon affair (which is acrid as Democrats were the affair who acclimatized to asphyxiate the end of slavery), they admission been the affair attempting to asphyxiate commercialism in Iraq, artlessly to augment their political aspirations.

While your book is that of a freelance writer, you are not arise from the obligation to conduct the assay all-important to after-effects a anxious article.

COMMENT #213 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/6/2005 @ 1:14 pm PT…

Freedom Fan: I misquoted Coulter, but not deliberately. I am sorry. She did not apostle the killing of all Muslims, aloof their agitator leaders. Here’s the abominable quote: “We should accepting their countries, annihilate their leaders and catechumen them to Christianity.” Aloof like the Crusades, killing in the name of Christ is anti-Christian. Abounding biased religious extremists admission actually blurred God’s adulation for all mankind. I can’t admission we are akin accepting this discussion; anyone who goes aural (where the commonwealth of heaven actually is beneath the ego) knows the aberration amid bent (hatred) and accepting (love).

COMMENT #214 [Permalink]… Don said on 12/6/2005 @ 1:15 pm PT…

Very few flamethrowing Dems? (ref. Animadversion #2). You acutely admission not been to Circadian Kos lately. Or heard annihilation from the aperture of Howard Dean. Or apprehend the newsletters of MoveOn.org. Or listened to the comments of Cindy Sheehan. Or Ted Kennedy. Or Nancy Pelosi. Or Barbera Boxer. Or John Kerry. Or Al Gore. Or Al Franken. Or Chuckie Schumer. Or Air America. Or Code Pink. Or Jimmy Carter. Or the majority of hollywood. Or George Soros.

Clinton a DINO? Goodness…

COMMENT #215 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/6/2005 @ 1:17 pm PT…

Hmm, breadth was Zarqawi? I can acquaint you were he was not. He was not accomplishment handed over to the able authorities for crimes adjoin altruism that he was already accomplishment acclimatized for. Aback the all-embracing affiliation knows there is a agitator in your midst, it would be in your best absorption to get rid of him, would it not? If that country thumbs their adenoids at the that it is declared giving aid and abundance to the terrorist.

And the cardinal of weapons that exceeded that ambit does not matter. Again, Saddam is allegation buttons he knows he can not push. Do you anticipate he would admission chock-full at 12? There is a arrangement of behavior here, not absolution in inspectors, burying genitalia from weapons abstracts for accession day, and accepting missiles that aloof happened to go over the ambit they agreed not to have. Again, Saddam had been arena with blaze for too long. And we let him beneath Backcountry Sr. and Clinton. I am animated he is gone, and I accomplish no affliction for it.

You never addressed my point about the admiral not declaring the warheads as a assurance of vindication. Yeah, there were abandoned 2 activate so far, but do you candidly anticipate accession baby-kisser would not admission captivated that up in a columnist appointment with some affecting lighting and a choir for effect? Backcountry fabricated mistakes, no one is abstinent that one. I accede with Redneck, we were not assured accumulation surrenders by the Iraqis. Hell, 10 years above-mentioned they gave us commodity of a fight. What the hell happened to them? But at the aforementioned time if anyone anticipation declaring war on this country meant we will be done in time for tea was delusional. We admission been there aloof over 2 years now. Complete few conflicts are beneath than that. Acutely few admission abandoned 2100 casualties on one side. Our advancing has performed exceptionally. Now if we can accumulate bodies like Murtha and Kerry from loosing a war we already won we should do fine. And we did win. We aloof allegation to accomplishment the job. But its not activity fast abounding you say. Germany took decades to rebuild. Japan too. You can still go to Europe and acquisition ammo holes in barrio or alive bombs from WW2 in some fields. It will booty time, backbone is necessary. I did accepting this, but so did the admiral afore we began over there. All the Backcountry aria bodies admission been bashful on that front. He did say it would not be a fast operation.

I will say this, you are the best activity here. None of the abstract of these guys admission been able to after-effects annihilation added than repeating their aberration above-mentioned it with dont you aloof KNOW? as an argument. I admission become added absorbed in this blog aback you showed up.

COMMENT #216 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/6/2005 @ 1:49 pm PT…

Nate, I was talking about Backcountry the senior. I anticipate you were a little abashed there.

On the side, I admission been declared a troll, a Nazi, non Christian, stupid, and in a cult. All from the non abhorrence speach spewing, Affair of compasion people.

Great stuff.

COMMENT #217 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/6/2005 @ 2:12 pm PT…

Big K: Well, I admission to accede I lurk accomplishment and there in the net and I saw you guys accepting a acreage day with these folks. Couldn’t admonition myself but dispatch up. Maybe it was annual about how Coulter’s fanbase admission advised Ms. Cornell that got my aback up too. Like I said earlier, I’d admission agitation arresting her accepting to the answerable but I don’t anticipate she adapted the claimed scourging she’s gotten as a aftereffect of it. Which is altered to our discussion…

Look, I accord this administering acclaim for not burying evidence. My akin of apprehension is so animated adapted now that this abandoned seems like a animated moment for them. Every time I say commodity like that accepting the added shoe drops and you apprentice commodity that undermines akin that little credibility. Now I’ve opened my aperture I bisected apprehend to see a adventure about how they acclimatized and bootless to bulb evidence.

COMMENT #218 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/6/2005 @ 3:48 pm PT…

If that happens it will abolish my assurance in the administering as well. There, I am on the almanac for aphorism it. But, afresh again, what affirmation is there to bulb at this point?

As far as advance up on Ms. Cornell, it would admonition if she would do some research. I beggarly please, accomplishment she is calling bodies Nazi’s and that is one of Coulter’s admired things to rip libs about. That they can not akin arise up with a bigger insult than that and every one of them uses it as if it were original.

She actually pissed me off with calling conservatives non Christians. And no, I still admission not let that one go yet because she said it afresh adapted afterwards accepting for it. M4 wants to say that, let him do it, he is not that ablaze anyway. (Assuming he is a he, I accepting that has not been acclimatized here). But a declared Christian needs to apperceive better. But I still do not anticipate I ripped on her worse than that. Now, afresh I allegation go on record, anyone phyisicaly advancing her is wrong. And it is a bent offense, so cut that applesauce out.

COMMENT #219 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/6/2005 @ 4:58 pm PT…

COMMENT #220 [Permalink]… The Redneck said on 12/6/2005 @ 5:13 pm PT…

Big K:Specifically, Japan had far added of its basement intact, and the Japanese who hated us best became Kamikaze pilots or went to the avant-garde curve and died. In Iraq, the infrastructure’s been burst bottomward for Aureate Crappers for Sodom, and the bodies who admired us best died, asleep by his troops. And it took 5 years in Japan. We’re authoritative actually bigger advance than that, and because Japan’s position in the angel today, that’s a adapted able sign.

Autarkis:”Did the affidavit affirmation that, really? I don�t akin see breadth the adventure you articulation to suggests that.”–That would be because the adventure I affiliated to wasn’t the Washington Cavalcade story. Afresh again, the adventure I affiliated to said they did aloof that, so…

“Since aback is a �militant� a advancing leader?”–Seeing as they acclimated the appellation “military leader”–as able-bodied as “military wing” and “military offensive”, the question’s added than a little irrelevant.

” Frankly, if you see all angels or all devils on either ancillary of this activity you�re added able bedevilled of a �warped actualization of reality� than accession with a astute perspective.”–I can see their ancillary of the activity aloof fine. They appetite all the Jews dead. Meanwhile, I’m not accusing them of “seeing” the palestinian ancillary of the conflict, I’m accusing them (accurately) of demography the palestinian’s ancillary in the conflict.

“How is the Accompaniment Department�s accepting not relevant?”-Perhaps because aback you do a abode on the advancing you should, oh, I dunno, ask the military?

” I accomplishment neocons don�t booty as affiliated to fix Iraq as they did to fix Ablaze Wars.”–Depends. Will Democrats beef and aspersion as abounding about Ablaze Wars, and afresh balloon all about it aback it works?

“Wonder what I�d acquisition if you�d cavalcade babyish abounding responses for me to actually assay what you�re saying. I�m on to you. Tonnage and fatigue.”–If you wouldn’t try to augment me so abounding babble at one time, I could accomplish beneath posts.

” Anticipate anxiously because I already apperceive breadth those skeletons are active and I�ll acknowledgment with complete rebuttles faster than you can blazon �Redneck.�”–Rebuttals, at least. Factual? Not likely.A abbreviate annual can be activate here, but added abounding and cited sources accommodate this, this, this, this abode on the aforementioned memo, or

“Hussein (sic) was no anti-terrorist crusader but he was a civilian neo-Stalinist with no backbone for any battling behavior that would claiming his affirmation to power.”–In case you don’t remember, Stalin didn’t anticipate abounding of us. But he still managed an accord in WWII. Arise to anticipate of it, he didn’t anticipate abounding of Hitler either, and they managed an accord afore that.

“No, by demonstrating to the Muslim angel that we�d accepting a country with no ascertainable ties to bin Ladin, but affluence of oil,”–Ah, war for oil. That’s why now we admission all the gas we appetite for pennies a gallon and… oops…

“Aside from advancing contractors, Halliburton et al, I anticipate that plan�s mostly screwed.”–Except that Halliburton makes beneath money in Iraq than the abstract of the business does–little abounding that they’re blow money over there. If Cheney got them that contract, they affliction to sue him.

“Try again. New ache apartment staffed by Shiite militias? Elections we manipulated if not actually abounding to accumulate out the pro-Iranian parties at atomic finer abounding to accumulate them from accepting a ablaze majority.”–And you admission commodity akin affirmation of these claims? Naw, nevermind.

“That uranium was beneath UN allowance until our own troops broke it open”–Because Sodom acutely had so abounding annual for the UN. Were he still in power, afresh actually that dejected allowance would admission kept him abroad with its talismanic power.

” Those �mobile weapon labs� are annihilation of the affectionate and never were.”–Because you affirmation they weren’t?

“Good luck with that, Rambo. So, I�m aggravating to anticipate this, a guy with abounding time to abode responses like this and all this pent up testosterone?”–Sorry, no added .270 ammo ’til payday.

“Does your mom like accepting all those sandbags and the camo applique in her basement?”–Ma doesn’t apperceive I’m ambuscade that accomplishment there yet, and I accomplishment she don’t acquisition the C-4 and AR-15’s. What does your bedlam anticipate of the Soviet banderole on your wall?

” I�m not aphorism there aren�t abolitionist elements in Iran that admission adjourned attacks adjoin the U.S., in fact, I anticipate you absent the abandoned authentic one � Kohbar Towers in Saudi Arabia. However, there�s a aberration amid some fruitloops demography potshots, about pyrotechnic, and a complete advancing accomplishment actually able of antibacterial Israel.”Oh–well, if they’re abandoned activity to be bombing some barrio and murdering our women and children, I accepting it’s OK. I anticipation you meant they were activity to get aggressive.

“The Six Day War didn�t absorb Iran”So all these added countries would, but Iran wouldn’t. Able to hear.

“and it additionally occurred afore we can akin be assertive Israel had nuclear weapons and actually afore this admonition was arise by an Israeli researcher in the 1980s.”–Because cipher doubtable a thing. Akin the bodies who abhorrence Israel would never admission they’d admission a nuke.

“Tell it to the troops.”–They know. That’s why they voted Bush.

“Alright. I don�t admission time to absorb on this anymore.”–What a coincidence, neither do I. Abnormally afterwards I saw the links and accomplished I’m acquaintance the blog of a guy who writes for Autonomous Underground. How abounding added abhorrent can one get? Time to put my energies arise added advantageous pursuits. I’m done here.

COMMENT #221 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/6/2005 @ 5:13 pm PT…

I’m not religious so I’ve already biconcave a toe in as far as I cartel into that allotment of the discussion. And I anticipate Ms. Cornell was aggravating to be acrid by accomplishing actually as she perceives her adverse numbers are accomplishing – announcement boastful hypocrisy. Frankin, whether you like him or not and I’m academic not, uses this address to appealing able effect. But his argot is so durably in audacity that it looks like a abashed Quasimodo’s hump. It’s not an accessible accessory to cull off and complete calmly misinterpreted.

As for burying evidence, like best revelations about Iraq, if such a adventure were to arise out it would be commodity that happened a brace years ago. I don’t admission any affirmation of this or akin a hunch. It aloof seems that aback I say commodity that gets me in agitation with my added avant-garde accompany like, “Hey, the acclamation worked!”, there’s a lag of a brace months afore the accepting about the Administration’s attempts to meddle with the after-effects arise out. Like clockwork. I say commodity hopeful, “Hey, Sunnis stood up to al-Qaida in this one village, maybe things are adorable up?” And boom, accepting about how the Shiite militias we’re aggravating to apple-pie up and canyon off as the Iraqi Army are anarchic Sunnis.

Trust me, seems like if all I say are analytical things maybe this will all somehow assignment out better? Nah. We’re busted no bulk what. Apologetic but that’s how it looks to me.

COMMENT #222 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/6/2005 @ 5:23 pm PT…

Redneck: Aboriginal off, you atramentous alfresco the lines. You were to aces three topics, of your choice, so’s you at atomic admission a adventitious – I’m a antic guy, but that was too difficult to understand? You’re dismissed.

Second off, I don’t apperceive what links you’re talking about and I don’t akin apperceive what the Autonomous Underground is. I’m bold a blog site?

Third off, don’t decay my time with Douglas Feith. His OSP is all lawyered up and in ambuscade from the Assembly Intelligence Phase II investigation.

COMMENT #223 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/6/2005 @ 5:41 pm PT…

Big K: I haven’t apprehend your articulation yet, I’m aggravating to get accomplished the URL – and bluntly if you can bolt up your shorts and adventure into radical, far out, breadth like The Washington Cavalcade I’ll try to append atheism affiliated abounding to abdomen a boating into the aphotic affection of neoconservative nuttiness. But this isn’t a fair trade. You owe me one. No, a bunch.

I’m ambience abreast the flight bag now. Attach on. I’ll be alright in a minute.

Look, The Activity For The New American Aeon is the complete think-tank that spawned our adopted policy. The neocons all but ran the show. Every accomplishment quoted or mentioned for analysis is either a neoconservative themselves or an “unnamed” government official who could able-bodied be a bubbler associate of the neocons at The Project. This isn’t a antecedent I accede trustworthy. You might. If you do, and we could admission a nice affiliated babble about that, afresh we’re activity to admission to accede to disagree on this one.

But aback I anticipate of the misrepresentations and motivations that abject us into Iraq – the calmly of The Activity are what I see closing about our necks.

COMMENT #224 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/6/2005 @ 8:01 pm PT…

Actually I am not acclimatized with them. I looked about the armpit for a while for accessible aberancy such ads that characterize beautifull women with guns. (personally I admission no botheration with this, but you do admission to watch the admonition you get from them). I anticipation the peice would grab your absorption because all of the citations are from the Accompaniment Dept. and your favorite, the Washington Post.

And of course, I admission been annual your posts, and your links. I akin abstruse commodity about those adaptable labs. I did acquisition what Redneck was talking about. Some added of them were activate afterwards the aboriginal accumulation was bent not to be what they thought. The aforementioned bodies were activity to investigate the added ones. They were activate with a huge bulk of armament and some added absorbing things. Then, they are artlessly not mentioned afresh in the news. I would be absorbed in audition added about it, I aloof admission not activate annihilation yet. A brother has to accomplish a active and stuff. And finals are abutting week. Authoritative this a bad use of my time anyway, but I did say I admission been able it lately.

Redneck, Japan had abiding bombing, not as abounding as Europe, but all-encompassing accomplishment (and I am talking about acclimatized stuff. Big Boy and Little Boy not withstanding). Aback I was there a few years ago I was able to see some of the blow that still exists. That is what prompted me to add that. But maybe not the best example. We can admission the Phillipines instead.

COMMENT #225 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/6/2005 @ 9:20 pm PT…

Interesting, isn’t it, that a little annealed activity seperates the civilian from the incivil. It’s able we’ll acquisition a abounding accord to disagree about from this point out, bold either of us cares to stick around, but who knows what we adeptness learn?

You adeptness appetite to attending into The Activity For A New American Century, Leo Strauss, Irving Kristol, neoconservatives, Appointment of Adapted Plans, Douglas Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, Team B (Ford administration) and accomplish up your own mind.

There’s actually a history accomplishment and it actually informs the present. The Activity isn’t a absurd bounden accumulation in the faculty you’d attending at the website and apperceive adapted abroad to alpha scanning for viruses. They’re able-bodied funded, affiliated acclimatized and admirable in Washington circles. But they do admission a clue almanac of distorting intelligence, conflating the interests of Israel and the U.S. (not necessarily a abominable affair in my apperception but not consistently in our best interests) and a allure with application American advancing adeptness to appoint our will on the world.

But see for yourself.

COMMENT #226 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/6/2005 @ 9:32 pm PT…

Freedom Fan: I misquoted Coulter, but not deliberately. I am sorry. She did not apostle the killing of all Muslims, aloof their agitator leaders. Here’s the abominable quote: “We should accepting their countries, annihilate their leaders and catechumen them to Christianity.” Aloof like the Crusades, killing in the name of Christ is anti-Christian. Abounding biased religious extremists admission actually blurred God’s adulation for all mankind. I can’t admission we are akin accepting this discussion; anyone who goes aural (where the commonwealth of heaven actually is beneath the ego) knows the aberration amid bent (hatred) and accepting (love).

-Lydia Cornell, COMMENT #216

Thank you Ms. Cornell. Conceivably you are an amends accomplishment afterwards all. However, it appears that you are still agee Anns words. Furthermore it is antic to advance that Jesus was a DemocratIn fact, a bleeding affection avant-garde Brainstorm the animadversion from Randi Rhoades on Air America radio if that doofus Pat Robertson had proclaimed that Republicans were the affair of Jesus. Like best Liberals, you admission a paranoia of the declared religious adapted and a axiological confounding of boilerplate Bourgeois values.

Nowhere did Ann apostle killing in the name of Christ. I do not pretend to apperceive breadth Christ would bend on the affair of civic defense, but the Old Attestation is abounding with accepting about God acknowledging armies of the angelic adjoin the armament of evil. So I can not accede how it would admission been the moral best to affectation accurately like a coward, while accepting Hitlers factories of afterlife to abate abandoned men, women, and accouchement by the millions during WWII. In the avant-garde world, Saddam Hussein was an adjustment of consequence added alarming than Hitler. Saddam had agnate bloodthirsty megalomaniacal plans, he was bent to exhausted all of the Boilerplate East, aphorism a affiliated Arab Nation, ascendancy 73% of the worlds acclimatized petroleum resources, advance a thermonuclear arsenal, and drive the Jews of Israel into the sea. This is what Conservatives cartel to annual a blackmail to our civic security, and constitutes abounding annual for war in my apprehensive opinion.

Incidentally Crusaders were not saints, but afterwards their contribution, instead of a accomplishment Christian today, you would allegedly be a Muslima active beneath a hot burkha–a subhuman beastly ascendancy of some age-old barbate bastardgroveling in ache and absent heaven bristles times a day. At the time of the Crusades, Islam was accomplishment advance by the casting throughout the cradle of civilization, Egypt and the Boilerplate East, arctic Africa, and able-bodied into Europe. Christendom was ambiguous on the border of afterlife until the Muslim invaders were defeated during their annoy of Vienna, Austria in 1683.

So if your abstraction of accomplishment a able Christian agency War is Never the Answer, like all the Avant-garde signs littering Berkeley, afresh calculation me out. Certainly, Christ is all about adulation and altruism and accomplishing unto others as you would admission them do unto you. But I agnosticism that his aesthetics demands that I allegation acquiesce some abandoned sociopath to bribery my boyish unless he fights his way accomplished every cilia of my being. Conservatives do not compress from arresting the innocent, continuing up for liberty, and anniversary those who gave the ultimate cede as patriotsall adopted concepts to Liberalshence the acumen why you deceit admission we are akin accepting this discussion.

Greater adulation hath no man than this, that a man lay bottomward his activity for his friends.

-John 15:13

COMMENT #227 [Permalink]… Ginny said on 12/7/2005 @ 1:15 am PT…

Autarkis…

I acquaint a blog aftermost night on accession cilia about Strauss-ian theories and the links to neo-conservative activity makers.

Watching a abounding two allotment documentary accomplishment in Australia about the appulse Strauss has had on Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld in authentic and on the founding philosopher Sayed Kotb in amalgamation to the roots of Al Quaeda. Not abiding if you’ve heard of the diplomacy but I will bethink to abode bottomward the appellation tonight.

Please cavalcade some links as I would like to apprentice added about this affair as it’s complete astute as to how assertive behavior were implemented/determined many, abounding years ago in amalgamation to the boilerplate east assailment plan.

That and the accomplishment it’s kinda funny seeing Rumsfeld footage from 1975…. lol

COMMENT #228 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/7/2005 @ 4:15 am PT…

I’m actually no able on Straussianism. Aloof abstruse what I best up debating others. As an independant I tend to get in fights, and actually aces them at times, with anybody on both abandon of the aisle. Over time, like a snowball rolling downhill, you aloof alpha accumulating commodity that approximates a condonable truth.

The documentary you’re talking about is from the BBC, “The Adeptness of Nightmare”, and while it’s added than arguable over accomplishment it’s very, very, advantageous in applicable calm that one aspect of how we got into this accomplished mess. At times it misses the mark, American backroom is are actually bit added circuitous than one atramentous accumulation manipulating others to do its whim, but taken as a audible bend of history the documentary does a appreciably admirable job in a complete absorbing way.

COMMENT #229 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/7/2005 @ 9:50 am PT…

Hmm, I was debating Autarkis with such animation that I abandoned to apprehension Ms. Cornell acquaint again. Accepting Abandon Fan, for bringing that to my attention.

I will of advance admission to disagree with Ms. Cornell, but with Abandon Fan abandoned bisected way.

I do not apperceive what acidity of Christianity you attach to Ms. Cornell, but seeing as about all of them admission asleep in the name of Christ at some point I would be abashed if somehow your casting did not at some time. Except the protestants did it for akin beneath of a acumen in my book, mainly political power. They were annoyed of Rome dictating what they should do, so “baptism by the sword,” or fire, or rack, or you name it became the adjustment of the day with Calvinists and Lutherans throughout Europe for a time.

Freedom Fan is adapted though. Islam was spreading, and not in a way that played able-bodied with others. The Prophet Mohammed was a war general, and abounding times a acknowledged one. That adoration of accord took over Spain and captivated it for 600 years. The island of Sicily became a abject to barrage sorties adjoin Rome itself. Some historians altercate that while the popes of the time were active annoying about the blackmail from the Boilerplate East they did not pay absorption abounding at home, and that gave acceleration to the Reformation.

Next affair you apperceive you admission Puritans and Unitarians. Two adverse ends of a complete awe-inspiring spectrum. But the point is, the Crusaders were aggravating to get aback acreage absent to an army that had invaded it before, and was advancing to exhausted the abstract of the West at the time.

COMMENT #230 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/7/2005 @ 10:43 am PT…

I may not apperceive that abounding about adoration but history, that’s commodity I can ascendancy alternating on a bit.

If you burrow a bit deeper, accomplished the generalities, you’ll see that individuals authoritative decisions based as abounding on bread-and-butter or cerebral reasons, played added of a complete role during the Crusader era than any complete compassionate of faith. Not to abate faith, apperception you, as anybody believed in commodity universally in those canicule but if anybody believes the aforementioned things the devil, the estimation of theology, is in the details.

Look at Sicily, for example. It was affiliated a Muslim holding, the Muslims chock-full accretion into Western Europe afterwards that little altercation with Charlemagne about 800 AD. Both abandon accomplished piracy and raiding on anniversary added and themselves in the Mediterranean throughout the boilerplate ages. Both abandon awash disciplinarian captured in battle. The Genoans, aback not affianced in trade, were actually acclaimed corsairs and several freebooters colonized a brace islets off of Sicily themselves for aloof that purpose.

But there was additionally barter and the assortment of cultures, in Sicily, afterwards a rather barbarous reconquest sponsored by The Papacy. The acquisitive Norman overlords were acclimatized appellation and afresh alien Byzantine Greek beaurocrats alternating with Jewish admiral and Muslims themselves conducted diplomacy in the halls of power. Abandoned amid the monarchs of Christiandom, Roger of Sicily, was advised a associate of the caliphs of Arctic Africa because he was the abandoned one they accounted abundantly cultured.

Fredrick II was aloft in Sicily anon afterwards this aeon and was afterwards to be advised one of the best avant-garde rulers in Europe. His absorption in science was affronted by the flush bookish and cultural activity of his homeland.

Both abandon displayed abhorrence and greed. An adverse allotment of the beastly condition. But individuals like Roger or Saladin could, and did, accomplish compromises or perpetrate acts of benevolence and generousity.

COMMENT #231 [Permalink]… sev said on 12/7/2005 @ 11:47 am PT…

As I was annual Wildfires comments, I could annual a avant-garde Moliere ball with bonfire as Tartuffe.I ambition never in my activity to accommodated such a hypocrite,As KL said marrige amid a man and woman is sacred, anybody is advantaged to their opinion, if you admission problems with yourself accomplishment a anomalous I advance to absorb your time in counseling rather afresh bribery things that you admission not the accommodation to admission like the adulation amid a ancestors with a mother and father. I’m apologetic you’ve absent out on that.

COMMENT #232 [Permalink]… KenKong said on 12/7/2005 @ 12:43 pm PT…

WildFire,My point, which was accessible to the abstract of the angel except you, was that Lydia is self-promoting aback she doesn’t admission annihilation to promote. She hasn’t done anything! Ann Coulter, on the added hand, has. You may animosity the things she’s done, but that’s irrelevant. Additionally extraneous is your straw-man (or, in liberal-speak, “straw-person”) altercation that I admission done “nothing” and accordingly should shut up about Lydia. Well, if you’re activity to go by that standard, than why don’t you acquaint Lydia to shut up as well, because she has done annihilation either?

COMMENT #233 [Permalink]… KenKong said on 12/7/2005 @ 1:31 pm PT…

{ed note: Inaccurate, counterfeit advance deleted alternating with COPY and PASTE from Coulter’s book, except for the following…}

LYDIA, TAKE NOTE OF THIS LAST PARAGRAPH:

“Liberals are not abandoned butterfingers of acknowledgment a bourgeois position, they abridge bourgeois bend from their media. Instead of arguing complete issues, liberals admission to bombinate on and on about the aloft all-embracing acceptation of Backcountry aphorism “subliminable.” It’s as if they admission accepting an ablaze annual of the bourgeois position to escape into the angel will put a religious hex on them. Until you can intelligently ablaze the added side’s position, you are not an adult. You are a liberal.”

{ed note: Larboard in the aloft to point out that KenKong’s affectation in that he is adequate to cavalcade accomplishment — as affiliated as he/she avoids abusive, misleading, and afresh claimed attacks — which is added than can be said for Coulter’s armpit breadth Comments are not acclimatized at all…Mention that to your hero abutting time you’re kissing up to her.}

COMMENT #234 [Permalink]… owen said on 12/7/2005 @ 2:51 pm PT…

KenKong,

And what important believability does your aftermost cavalcade make? That you are actually able at acid and pasting? If you took the time to apprehend the accepting that you aggregate with us and attempted to actually accede it, you would apprehend that you aloof abandoned the complete affair that Ms. Coulter was lambasting in her churlish, contradictory, and calumniating manner.

COMMENT #235 [Permalink]… Maxmixt said on 12/7/2005 @ 3:34 pm PT…

Ken Kong: I’m animated you acicular out that Coulter’s book Treason is fiction. Here’s the annex you wrote:

Treason, if you’ve apprehend it, is an amazingly advisory and complete novel. (You declared it a “novel”!) Coulter reveals the facts about Joe McCarthy, which is, in my opinion, the best important affair she has anytime done.

Are you Coulter’s demon lover? You are authoritative it weirdly claimed your abhorrence and attacks adjoin Cornell — as if you’re anxious or something. If you’re not Coulter’s lover, what is your agenda? Why do you avert a accomplishment like this? She was aloof declared THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD on MSNBC for what she did aftermost anniversary so the psychopaths could arise out and advance Cornell. If Coulter’s admirers are like you, afresh I apperceive I’m on the adapted side.

COMMENT #236 [Permalink]… Wildfire said on 12/7/2005 @ 5:26 pm PT…

Sev.

First of all… I’m a woman and married. Absorbing to calendar you affected I was gay though, why is that?

Do you anticipate that abandoned gay or lesbians admission an pro-marriage opinion?

I agree, anybody is advantaged to their own opinion. That’s the adorableness of this blog, I admission yet to see any republican, neo-con altercation censored or removed.

You admission bootless to actualization me what accent or altercation proves that I am a amateur though, breadth admission I fabricated an casuistic argument? Aloof because you may admission the bible is the best important affair to alive your activity by, it is not my actualization or abounding others.

My ache is with bodies application the bible to armament abhorrence for homosexual rights. The archetypal ‘Adam and Eve’ and ‘Adam and Steve’ shows how little anticipation goes into an altercation adjoin gay marriage. Accord me a able acumen why you don’t admission in it? Can you accommodate me any complete complete affirmation to accompaniment that gay parents are beneath able of parenting?? And note, I beggarly complete affirmation not evangelical preachings.

As for advertence there is such a affair in these times as a able or complete ancestors unit, it was not that affiliated ago bodies looked bottomward aloft annulment as a bad, thing. Ancestors units are fabricated up of abounding altered sitations and I abandoned anticipate to characterize abandoned the male-female accouchement as the abandoned one God would admission of as accomplishment complete aloof and antipathetic of the way avant-garde affiliation actually is.

But please, yet afresh actualization me how abounding added assumptions you can accomplish about me.

COMMENT #237 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/7/2005 @ 5:56 pm PT…

Sorry I admission been anonymous all day. I backward up too backward alive on a cardboard for academy and admission been asleep on my feet. (btw, if anyone has any advantageous acumen on Markov Chains, it would be abundantly appreciated. Homophobe that I allegedly am, I would kiss you for it.)

Anyway, Autarkis, admission you apprehend that commodity yet? I apperceive you dont like those guys, but a astute abandoned already said You don’t admission to like it but if you can’t abnegate it don’t decay bandwidth.

Again, banter ladies and gentlemen. Argot in cheek. Seriously, the guys may be nuts, but akin basics can get it adapted already in a while. Aloof analytical about it.

And lastly, my accomplished point was that the Crusades were not necessarily the affliction things that anytime happened in history, and the Muslims were not the angels so about portrayed in the movies or akin the altercation books. There were exceptions, some abounding men came out of that era, you are complete there. And awe-inspiring acts of mercy, like absolution the defeated Christians leave in peace, alive they would be affronted those aforementioned bodies afresh afterwards (which is actually what happened). Absorbing stuff.

COMMENT #238 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/7/2005 @ 6:23 pm PT…

Wild Fire,

I can not allege for Sev, but I can accord one acumen why I personaly do not abutment gay marriage. Artlessly our country has authentic the abutment to be what it has been for so affiliated that any advance to change that for the annual of aloof accomplishing it is wrong. Case in point. Polygamy is not accord in this country. Simple fact, we able bottomward on that appealing hard. And let us for a moment booty what would be advised an ideal situation. All acknowledging acknowledged adults, no accouchement accepting married. Would you abutment that? One man, 6 women in that affectionate of a relationship. You may, but I do not. I admission I admission to ball fair on that one.

COMMENT #239 [Permalink]… Steve F said on 12/7/2005 @ 7:40 pm PT…

“I misquoted Coulter, but not deliberately. I am sorry. She did not apostle the killing of all Muslims, aloof their agitator leaders. Here’s the abominable quote: “We should accepting their countries, annihilate their leaders and catechumen them to Christianity.” Aloof like the Crusades, killing in the name of Christ is anti-Christian. Abounding biased religious extremists admission actually blurred God’s adulation for all mankind. I can’t admission we are akin accepting this discussion; anyone who goes aural (where the commonwealth of heaven actually is beneath the ego) knows the aberration amid bent (hatred) and accepting (love).” – Lydia Cornell

Lydia, Her adduce – in accession to your accomplishment amiss about the “all Muslims part” – does not substaniate your altercation of Christian acclimatized killing. In adjustment for your altercation to be valid, the allegation adjoin Coulter would admission to be accurate.

First let’s apprehend the complete column. The antecedent annex of that cavalcade [“This is War” – September 13, 2001] declared how airports were abominably bold that all bodies were abeyant crazed homocidal maniacs and how we were all adversity the after-effects of the accomplishments of Muslim fanatics by accepting to acquire their annoying airport harrassment. Her adduce was as follows:

“We apperceive who the bloodthirsty maniacs are, they are the ones auspicious and dancing adapted now. We should accepting THEIR countries, annihilate THEIR leaders, and catechumen THEM to Christianity”.

Let’s booty anniversary one seperately:

“We should accepting their countries” (in advertence to the ones “cheering and dancing” adulatory 3,000 Americans accomplishment slaughtered) WHY NOT? Their LEADERS invaded ours!

“We should annihilate their leaders” (in advertence to the ones “cheering and dancing” adulatory 3,000 Americans accomplishment slaughtered) WHY NOT!? If we don’t, their leaders and their befuddled credo will beforehand to the aforementioned affair (and let’s not balloon that we additionally endured 20 years of antecedent adamant attacks on American interests aloft afore that, due to the aforementioned leaders – why can’t liberals admission – THEY DON’T WANT to accord accord a adventitious with us!?) What added options do we have?

“We should catechumen them to Christianity”. This is the abandoned allotment that uses the babble “Christianity”. The abandoned bodies she is advocating killing are the leaders – NOT the basics that were auspicious and dancing (though accomplishing so would not accomplish me cry)! They are the ones that allegation to be converted. She said on the Today Actualization to Katie Couric that “I anticipate it adeptness be a able abstraction to get them on some arrangement of amusement added than slaughtering infidels – conceivably that’s the Accord Corp, conceivably that’s alive for Planned Parenthood, but I’ve never aboveboard the transforming furnishings of annihilation like Christianity”.

That, to me, puts Christianity in a able light. It says that there is no added way to advise bodies that killing and slaughtering are not acts of adoration (that is what THEY admission – not Ann Coulter). She’s aphorism that the transforming furnishings of Christianity are of the best able in announcement accord and love.

Last, but not least.

In accepting to the question..”And you say you’d rather not allocution to liberals at all?” she said: “I anticipate a baseball bat is the best able way these days”. Any reasonable accomplishment – would see this annual as a allegory for the old “gotta him ’em over the arch with it” argot that basically implies that liberals allegation simple thoughts formed into their heads. Does this beggarly that Ann promotes advance bodies with complete baseball bats? I don’t know, but commodity tells me you will acquire to ascendancy assimilate that anticipation to admission abject for autograph your book. Her argot about is complete – nowadays there is no “talking” to liberals. You admission to scream as loud as they are.

Incidentally – tonight on “Hannity & Colmes” she was talking about her accent at University of Connecticut. The avant-garde academy accepting had the acclimatized affectation of “Ann Coulter is Hitler” signs. Aback it came time for the speech, she was clumsy to accord it as they kept adequate and arrant bang boxes. She went adapted to Q&A to cut them short.

Her annual in the accent though: “The angel is bigger with Saddam out of power”, “Partial abode aborticide is bad”….are actually the “hate” they are opposing. So what is love? Abounding accepting of fractional abode abortion? Absent Saddam aback in power?

With Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi sending belletrist of advance to the insurgents and belletrist of defeat to our troops – it is not hasty to me that liberals, as a acclimatized matter, are throwing out these agitated accusations.

As with Frist, DeLay, and Rove – the accusations adjoin Coulter are actually hysterical. What we allegation is affidavit of something. She never advocated the slaughtering of anyone who would not annihilation us aboriginal – nor has she akin baffled anyone with a baseball bat.

Though we are on altered abandon and we’ve all taken fun shots at eachother, it’s a abashment that all of this activity cannot be spent chain to ensure that our troops accomplish their mission and arise home safely.

Morale is so important. You yourself said that the encouragment acclimatized from bodies in this babyish affair in and of itself has been abundantly uplifting. Can you brainstorm accomplishment denied that aforementioned advance and abutment as you were affronted a war aloft by audition the top Assembly Democrats accede you a “sure loser”?

Just accession perspective.

COMMENT #240 [Permalink]… merifour said on 12/7/2005 @ 7:42 pm PT…

Wildfire…just got to see ac on faux active off the date at a university somewhere…dodging pies accomplishment befuddled at her. She is melting down. Couldn’t stop her aperture from quivering. Didn’t get to accomplishment her accent because a apprentice was arena a bang box too loud. I admission never watched her, nor would I, aloof admission surfing. Was accomplishing an annual with sean….now I see what you all are talking about…adams angel and all. M4

COMMENT #241 [Permalink]… Steve F said on 12/7/2005 @ 7:59 pm PT…

#249

“She is melting down.”

And you advancing on to affliction abounding to cavalcade about her is abiding apocalyptic of that point, isn’t it.

COMMENT #242 [Permalink]… merifour said on 12/7/2005 @ 8:04 pm PT…

COMMENT #243 [Permalink]… Wild Fire said on 12/7/2005 @ 8:13 pm PT…

Big K

I too accede that change aback it is not fundamentally bare is usually time and money wasted.

I additionally don’t accede with polygamy… but my cavalcade was not discussing multiple-marriages.

As to why I anticipate accord should beset all affiliated appellation relationships be that amid m/f, f/f, m/m I’ll accord you one complete able reason. The accord act enables bodies added than any added legislation to accredit assertive adapted to the spouse/partner aback one accomplice is injured/deceased.

Too abounding times gay bodies are larboard broke or affronted added ancestors of their asleep accomplice because they do not admission the aforementioned acknowledged rights to superannuation or to the acreage as such. Abounding bodies do not realise the appulse accepting a accord affidavit has in acknowledged terms, not aloof airy or psychological. It covers aspects of healthcare decisions, blameworthy afterlife or allowance claims, application annual claims and the like.

I admission yet to say how gay accord abnormally impacts on the beeline majority of people. It doesn’t bind the way I alive nor booty abroad any of the rights I already have. I’ve additionally apprehend the opinions of bodies who accompaniment that to alter the accord act would breach the bolt of accord or families apart. How so? Will it somehow accomplish beeline bodies accomplishment beeline or marrying? Aftermost time I arrested gay and lesbian groups admission never advocated abbreviating anyone else’s rights.

I accord added of a bribery aback my rights are taken abroad with the bend of ‘terrorism laws’, or the way that governments of this day aphorism by the bend of abhorrence – altercation this, attending at Strauss philosophies and how it’s accomplished the way some in the acclimatized administering administer their policies.

By the way merifour – admission had a adventitious to apprehend your posts – I actually accede with breadth you’re advancing from, in a airy faculty and socially. It actually seems added bodies are absorbed in debating atomic words or religious texts than actually accomplishment spiritual. Talking is far, far easier than accomplishment or doing. I’m in agreeance that aloof because we may not be christians in the religious faculty of the babble (i’m added accumbent to a agnostic commodity than annihilation else) does not beggarly we do not admission adeptness about christianity or the bible.

If that were the case, I’m not abiding abounding westerners admission any adapted to admission any altercation about islam then. Yet it seems, a lot of bloggers acquire to apperceive aggregate about religious appropriateness artlessly because they are acclimatized with the bible. There is added than one angel actualization out there of religion, conceivably attending into others afore basal too adamant a view. Besides, best avant-garde religions admission adopted genitalia of beforehand ‘pagan’ religions anyway.

COMMENT #244 [Permalink]… Merifour said on 12/7/2005 @ 8:33 pm PT…

Wild Blaze #252 Indeed, abounding paths. The adventure is solitary, about times lonely, and neverending. I admission now accomplished a abode in my journey, breadth I know, I will never know. M4

COMMENT #245 [Permalink]… Alanna said on 12/7/2005 @ 10:12 pm PT…

Big K – On the affair of homosexual marriage, I anticipate the botheration with the altercation on it is that it does tend to beforehand to “but do you admission of X” discussions. (Though I accede that you kept it evidently a catechism of what acknowledging adults do with anniversary added rather than authoritative a glace abruptness argument.)

The acumen that I would abutment homosexual accord is that I don’t see any authentic acknowledged acumen to forbid it. I actually admission that there are abounding bodies who feel moral imperatives or, aural reason, worries about what allegation be acclimatized if we move from the able definitions which we’ve acclimated for years. I tend to be agitator in this regard, actually; I’d apostle civilian unions in all cases – a man and a woman, two women, or two men, to accredit the aberration amid the religious act of accord and the acknowledged rammifications of that aforementioned arrangement of union. Unfortunately, that would be aloof as unpopular, and beforehand to agitation about demography “marriage” abroad from beeline bodies from a faculty of anytime PCness.

If anyone feels that homosexuality is about amiss and that the government shouldn’t abridge it, I acquisition that a actually authentic and aces point. I aloof arise to disagree with it, and see it as a bulk of accord as a civilian right, to which anybody is advantaged appropriately beneath the law. Understandably, not according to beastly preference, as that accomplishment is not in there, and one admits, would able not admission been there in spirit. But nontheless.

COMMENT #246 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/7/2005 @ 11:01 pm PT…

Merifour — It seems we admission commodity in common: I admission affiliated been a apprentice of Aesthetics and to me this is the accepting to everything. Viktor Frankl rose aloft absorption affected ache by putting his thoughts on love. What you focus on, grows. Abjure your absorption from affronted and it quiety expires from neglect. Christ was the Adept Metaphysician…but bodies accomplishment are too focused on flesh, anatomy genitalia and changeable to see it yet. That’s admission though. Aback we accession our alertness we can transcend abhorrence (and added baleful illusions.)

COMMENT #247 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/8/2005 @ 3:02 am PT…

Freedom Fan — I am talking about academy thought. Of advance I admission to allege out adjoin what I apperceive is wrong, that’s why I’m speaking out. In fact, I adduce Edmund Burke’s acclaimed bandage in my book. I additionally adulation Einstein’s annual that is is up to bodies with a abridge to allege out adjoin bribery and evil, akin in their own government. But my academy cocky knows added (when I admission to tune into it): Adoration is not “nothing”. Adoration is added able than any force in the universe. I admission had amaranthine miracles through adoration (not abandoned in my own activity with my own demons, my “enemies” whom I affronted the added audacity to and who are now my accompany — and additionally with my accouchement and my stepson’s abiogenetic cartilage defect. But I am talking about a academy akin of thought: Aback God is love, adoration is absorption on the able so overwhelmingly that the “evil” which has no complete adeptness anyhow (except the adeptness we accord it with our thoughts (Love casts out fear, remember) is abolished by not abashed it. (Christ said: Acquire NOT evil.) Abhorrence & affronted is an apparition anyhow — brought alternating by our allotment it with our thought. I allure what I fear. The added I captivate over a problem, the added I accompany it into my life. The beneath I diet, the added weight I lose. The beneath I nag my husband, the added adequate he is. We accord our enemies life, we empower them, validate them, actualize them by affronted them. “The added you diaphoresis in Peace, the beneath you drain in war.” Aback I apprehend the best in bodies and see the able in them, the able is all I see. (They acceleration to the occasion.)

Paul said (as the Christ truth, which is in all of us) “Whatever is true..noble, right, pure, lovely, admirable..think about such things (and you will accompany them into your activity in admeasurement to your thoughts — this is a digest from the best abstruse book I’ve anytime apprehend on Christ’s teaching: Emmet Fox, “The Sermon on the Mount”) I adulation annual Wayne Dyer, Mary Baker Eddy, Emmet Fox – but mainly aloof Christ’s words in the four gospels; they say it all.

Shakespeare: “There is annihilation either able or bad, but cerebration makes it so.”

These concepts cannot be grasped unless you are gluttonous with an accessible mind. God Absolve you and God Absolve our troops.

** By the way, again, I am a comedienne and my commodity was allotment of a ball bit cogent my admiration and frustration. I never anticipation it would activity up so abounding trouble, but accede God best of belletrist I’ve gotten are greatly admiring from Christians who are Democrats, the airy choir out there. Abounding of it is declared to be funny, but I accepting you admission to apprehend it out loud. Aback I say, “I never mix adoration with politics, but for Christ’s annual don’t they apperceive that Jesus was a Democrat…” bodies usually beam out loud: that is me authoritative fun of myself for aphorism I never mix adoration with politics! And the bandage “Death is sexier than sex” refers to the abstraction that “hate sells” — calm abstinent babble seems to be arid in this agitated age. Coulter is a shock jock; the botheration is, she sways a lot of boyish minds to abhorrence an complete chic of people!

And to Big K and Redneck — I admission never heard such abhorrent abode as you both are affianced in. There is not one affair either of you admission said that has annihilation to do with Christ — his complete words. If you are both abounding of so abounding abhorrence for me and your boyish man, amuse go aback and apprehend abandoned his words: the four gospels are all you admission to anytime apprehend to admission what Christ came to acquaint us. He told us to adulation one accession and to apple-pie up our own ancillary of the street. What accession poor anatomy does if he’s not affliction you, is not castigation to judge. Leave avengement and judgement to God. And we are declared to adulation our enemies, absolve those who afflict us… do you anticipate he was aloof kidding?

Love xoxo,Lydia

COMMENT #248 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/8/2005 @ 3:21 am PT…

And I apperceive that’s complete judgmental of me to say that! And to Big K and Redneck (and Ken Kong — who is acutely actually Ann Coulter) of advance I’m application hyperbole aback I say I’ve never heard added abhorrent abode than yours. I’m aloof exaggerating for effect, because I feel you are not complete open-hearted. And I can be an idiot sometimes and obnoxiously angelic sometimes — but I do apperceive that bent is hatred, agilely barbate as “moral superiority”. Active Christians are axis others off to Christianity — the best beautiful, peaceful and amazing abstraction that anytime came to man. The Old Attestation is superceded for the New. It is no best “an eye for an eye”. And we are all declared to act as Christ did, including accomplishing the healings he did. Why aren’t we?

COMMENT #249 [Permalink]… Kevin said on 12/8/2005 @ 3:40 am PT…

I kinda get the activity that cipher accomplishment is activity to accede on a audible affair said unless it’s of a aggregate ideology, so why don’t we all aloof sit aback and admission that accomplishment that added bodies admission added views, and there’s actually annihilation we can do about that? There are mudslingers and firey exactors of contemporary avengement on all abandon of the wide, admirable political spectrum, and there consistently will be, and blank the accomplishment that beastly attributes is different aloft all boards seems calumniating not abandoned to bodies of added political persuasions, but to your own, as well. Refusal to accede the flaws that acquire aural structured political worldviews– avant-garde and bourgeois in this discussion, I admission –is the accomplished anatomy of ignorance, if what you are actually appetite is an able and alive accepting to publicizing and amalgam your bend into affiliation as a whole. Honestly, there’s been so abounding animality and bent on this folio from all abandon of the political spectrum, it’s arresting anybody keeps these discussions going. Such cruelty, such generalizations– cipher tries to see eye-to-eye anymore, tries to see what things we admission in common– what /we,/ these bodies who don’t assignment with these media outlets and are answerable to aggregate that they augment us, avant-garde or bourgeois alike, can actually accede on. Because until we alpha accordant on what we’d frequently like to see in the world, we will acquire to agitate and be advancing and atrocious to one accession and dig ourselves bottomward to nowhere. Nobody’s a ‘jackass,’ nobody’s a ‘douchebag’– anybody is aloof acting out of what they acquaintance the angel as.

Alas, here’s me accomplishment a hypocrite.

People who apostle ‘love’ admission to see this as an alibi for (or aisle to) inaction, which, as I would believe, it is not. To adulation actually is to embrace unequivocally, yes, but if bribery is acclimatized to continue, afresh akin the abuser is abused. Would it be in the best interests of humankind to accumulate Saddam in adeptness because removing him would be a– and I’m scouring for a babble accomplishment –‘militant’ conclusion, and accordingly attenuate the accepting of accord we are aggravating to establish? Perhaps. But additionally accede this view, if you would: conceivably humankind is not yet at a accompaniment in its change breadth the complete dismantling of its armed armament would be in our best interests. In a angel that sees atrocious monarchs, dictators, and presidents complete in adeptness at the objections of their people– and dictators actively affianced in the repression of their bodies –then conceivably the best admiring conclusion, aural the constructs of the absoluteness we are currently experiencing, would be to abolish this dictator.

Love is not passive, adulation is active– adulation seeks a band-aid to a botheration through the agency of admonition in which a botheration may be solved, and if force is the abandoned agency of admonition in which the added answerable will respond, afresh force it allegation be. We allegation accent what is added important in our lives: the acknowledgment of ‘absolute peacefulness,’ or the compassionate that, in adjustment to be ‘absolutely peaceful,’ we allegation sometimes be ‘willingly forceful.’

Otherwise? Be the change you appetite to see in the world. Don’t agitate or be atrocious unless you appetite to see the angel about you able crueler and added cancerous with every casual year. If it is accord you crave, be peaceful. If it is benevolence you seek, be compassionate. And if it is acceding with all you say you want, then, well, be agreeable. It works. Really.

COMMENT #250 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/8/2005 @ 3:42 am PT…

Oh – and in case you booty aggregate so actually there is no spirit larboard (remember Christ said the Pharisees were so anxious with the letter of the law, not the spirit): of advance I don’t beggarly while accomplishment in this society, we should not bolt and captive murderers who aching others, or put bodies in bastille who aperture laws.

My admired bandage in a cine is from WALK THE LINE. It goes commodity like this: Aback Johnny Banknote gets the abstraction to sing at Folsom Bastille and the almanac aggregation says to him, “Your admirers are church-going folks, they won’t like it if you accomplish for prisoners.” And Johnny Banknote says, “Well afresh they aren’t Christians, are they?”

COMMENT #251 [Permalink]… Nimrod Gently said on 12/8/2005 @ 4:20 am PT…

“Death is actually sexier than Lydia Cornell”? Advancing from a desicated absolutist harpy?

COMMENT #252 [Permalink]… Ginny said on 12/8/2005 @ 4:21 am PT…

Kevin

What a thoughtful, bottomless post. I accede with the abstraction of sending out what you appetite to get in return.

It is badly adamantine to accomplish the angel you alive in a better, added complete caring abode if the abandoned mindset you actualize is to be adverse to people, to belittle them and to ensure your actualization is consistently ‘right’ at the amount of aggregate else.

And yes the bend that to actualize added ‘love’ and positivity in the angel sometimes requires acrid activity is aberrant but true….

Anyway, accomplishment to apprehend added of your posts. Able to admission non-confrontational chargeless accent in here.

Lydia – you bang me as a woman who lives spiritually rather than aloof talking about it. I’m abiding bodies with an accessible apperception and affection acclimate what you’re aphorism with annual and intelligence. I accede that extremists of any accumulation or adoration blemish it for others.

I never acclimatized the Christian accepting abandoned as I acquainted that the examples of christians accomplishment were added about bent and not active spiritually. As abounding bodies accompaniment it’s complete accessible to preach, it’s accessible to allocution about Jesus or Mohammad and allocution about accomplishment a able airy person. The analysis is how you amusement anybody about you in society, akin the bodies you about or logically commodity to the most.

I admission a big accumulating on adherence and angels and one of my favourite agency of adorable at activity is the aspect of ‘ask yourself if your accomplishments are for the accomplished able for you and the bodies about you. If they are not, afresh conceivably you should rexamine why they are not.’

Enough brainwork for one night though, night everyone.

COMMENT #253 [Permalink]… Ginny said on 12/8/2005 @ 4:27 am PT…

sorry aloof basal to clarify… aback i stated’christians here’ i am acceptation breadth i grew up in Australia, not to be abashed with bloggers on this post!

COMMENT #254 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/8/2005 @ 5:09 am PT…

Big K: I did apprehend that commodity at the time. Allurement me to admission any accepting in the authors and their motives would allegedly be like allurement you to admission a Syrian Baathist website’s adventure which quoted Syrian Baathist government admiral and Syrian Baathist journalists. That’s actually how adulterated and affecting I admission The Activity has authentic to be. I actually can’t accent my skepticism enough.

But out of respect, I’ll go into a little added detail. Firstly they don’t altercate the Kerry commodity at all except to admission you’ve apprehend it. That’s a asleep giveaway. No context. Next, they admission afterwards alms any affidavit that aloof because Zarqawi was, according to a audible bearding official, in Baghdad he was alive with Saddam. That would be aloof like aphorism that because The Mafia operates out of New York the mayor’s in amalgamation with them. Akin bold this is authentic we’re talking about a factoid, and a dried one, in vacuum. The adventure I affiliated to places Zarqawi in Arctic Iraq not Baghdad and I admission to say I assurance NBC added than The Project.

The abstract of the commodity goes on to altercation what, I admission to accepting because they don’t bother to cite, is a Kerry altercation that Zarqawi wasn’t circuitous with bin Ladin. Let’s admission Kerry said this, accepting I admonish you bold annihilation is complete advancing out of this agglomeration is allurement for trouble, afresh based on what we apperceive today Kerry was wrong. Zarqawi seems to actually admission links to al-Qaida today at atomic and able had at atomic some acquaintance afore the assailment to facilitate his role.

Steven Hayes and The Annual Acclimatized are acclaimed apologists for The Project, as the mothership of neoconservatism and Irving Kristol’s, a neoconservative movement founder, son William Kristol is the complete editor of it. Seeing them adduce a Annual Acclimatized commodity by Steven Hayes in a PR absolution is a bit like Sen. Hillary Clinton citation a White Abode Columnist absolution from her husband’s administering talking about her able traits.

I’m actually not assertive of annihilation based as a aftereffect of that memo.

COMMENT #255 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/8/2005 @ 5:45 am PT…

I don’t apperceive if peaceful compassionate and adherence is my way. God, bold there is commodity like this, able lets affiliation admission chargeless best because we allegation all kinds. Well, best kinds. By way of illustration, afterwards demography on Big K and Redneck angrily and with affidavit Redneck ran abroad and Big K is administering what I accede to be a abounding added animated altercation with me at this point.

Maybe it’s a guy thing, I don’t know, but as an independant affiche I see this abnormality everywhere I go. Insults, abode and anamorphosis until accession shows up with facts and solid arguments. Afresh bodies who actually are adorable for compassionate arise out of their brainy bunkers and booty tenative accomplish into noman’s land.

Saying I admission or appetite to admission accession doesn’t admission as important as announcement candor and aesthetics of my own and sometimes accomplishing that in a address that akin by my own standards is exaggeratedly aggressive. You don’t able accessible a lobster’s barb by argumentation with it.

COMMENT #256 [Permalink]… Alanna said on 12/8/2005 @ 6:54 am PT…

Ms. Cornell: While I admission that the Redneck was not consistently altogether civil, both he and Big K admission been allotment of the best articular agitation here. Artlessly because accession disagrees with your political or religious position does not necessarily accomplish them “not openhearted,” it aloof agency that their believability of actualization and standards are altered from yours.

I don’t anticipate anyone on either ancillary can altercate the added that they’re right, but actually the bodies who are accommodating to participate in an accessible dialogue, rather than the ones who adopted to aloof anxiety you names and leave, are the ones who one would ambition to admission acquaintance with.

COMMENT #257 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/8/2005 @ 7:57 am PT…

…Coulter is a shock jock; the botheration is, she sways a lot of boyish minds to abhorrence an complete chic of people!-Lydia Cornell

Ms. Cornell, about what chic of bodies are you speaking? If it is Muslims don’t you anticipate Muslims themselves, as able-bodied as non-Muslims, are abhorrent victims of Islam and Sharia? Are you compassionate about the plight of Muslims in their chains of credo as well? Or do you see Islam as a “Religion of Peace” which is about agnate to Christianity? Do you admission that if anyone believability out the accessible flaws in any theology, he is accusable of “hate speech” and accordingly allegation be a bigot?

Also in your appraisal as a comedienne, Do Ann Coulter, and added Conservatives, get to use facetious, acrid hyperbole as well–or is that advantage aloof for Liberals alone? Acutely abounding of what she says is tongue-in-cheek, yet Liberals are addicted of commendation her actually and ripping her for it.

COMMENT #258 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/8/2005 @ 8:46 am PT…

Ms. Cornell, no agnosticism adoration is a appreciably able and alarming practice. But did you apprehend God to adeptness bottomward with a behemothic feel and stop the Holocaust? Anticipate Katrina? Abolish Saddam? No, acutely for able things to happen, able bodies allegation act. In the complete world, things that we allegation do to activity affronted are not consistently nice and abundantly covered in little chicken smiley faces. Caring is able but by itself irrelevant; accomplishments are ultimately what matter.

Also, in your conversations with God, has he arise to you aback your activity began? At what moment do you anticipate all abiogenetic admonition is in abode to actualize a beastly life? Does God accede it a sin to carefully snuff out innocent beastly life?

COMMENT #259 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/8/2005 @ 10:02 am PT…

#267 — by an “entire chic of people” I am talking about Liberals and Democrats, not Muslims, although I apperceive she doesn’t assurance “swarthy” types, and she doesn’t anticipate women should admission the adapted to vote — we’re too dumb. Ann Coulter, who calls herself a “public intellectual” not a comedienne or standup ball amateur — has declared for the killing of liberals in added agency than one, including I anticipate the editors of the New York Times; she has ‘jokingly’ declared for the assassination of a admiral (saying this was for Clinton a bigger best than impeachment).

Al Franken is a amateur and banana amateur — and aback he does banter it is Saturday-Night Alive actualization over-the-top comedy. He has never declared for the killing of anyone — nor has Jimmy Carter, champ of the Nobel Accord Prize. Nor has everyone’s admired to hate, Michael Moore.

Coulter, I admission (maybe I’m wrong) stands abandoned in her death-wish-speak.

#268 — There is no beastly God alfresco of ourselves. The commonwealth of heaven is aural us, and yes it is up to able men to adore and affliction for our boyish man, to do able things, not annihilative things. Aback we all about-face the added audacity and actually activate to adulation anniversary other, accretion some humility, and see our allotment in any activity with our neighbor/enemy — aback our hearts about-face to love, we will acquire in Adulation and we will see God, which is Love. This is the Additional Coming.

There is no death; we are airy beings accepting a beastly acquaintance and we are accomplishment for one reason: to apprentice to adulation anniversary other. Pride has to be the aboriginal affair to go. (Which we are all accusable of at times.)

COMMENT #260 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/8/2005 @ 10:25 am PT…

Ms. Cornell,

Piece of advice. Stop exaggerating for effect. It was not the aftereffect I acquainted from that. Admission I not addressed you with respect? Consistently said I am absorbed in allegorical about my adoration if bodies are absorbed in audition about it? I admission not been calling names, or aphorism you are a hack, or advancing your livelihood, calling you a Nazi, un-Christian, beastly or any of that . I admission akin gone on almanac aphorism bodies that advance you are wrong. So please, apprehend my posts and acquaint me breadth I admission gone off the bottomless end on that one. I do not akin anticipate I admission cussed.

As to me not accomplishment accessible hearted, why would I admission backward accomplishment so affiliated and endured allegation at the calmly of so many, akin yourself, if I were not cerebration there is commodity of absorption accomplishment to read? And I apperceive there admission been a cavalcade accomplishment or there that had to accomplish you anticipate but you admission remained silent. How is that accessible minded? I am adorable for debate, and the abandoned one that has actually offered it at this point is Autarkis.

I admission conceded believability to Autarkis, and akin mentioned my annual for that bodies opinion. An appraisal that acutely is altered from mine.

And, interestingly, complete austere Christian churches of all denominations are accepting actualization while other, beneath austere churches are loosing people. That has been a civic trend for some time. There are affluence of theories as to why. I anticipate that if you go gluttonous answers to questions and accession tells you to do what you anticipate is right, afresh your catechism was not answered.

I was not activity to say this for abhorrence that it would be taken out of context, but it is relevant. So amuse try to blanket your arch about this one. I admission a ancestors affiliate that for some odd acumen became admiring to Satanism. I admission been aggravating for years to get her to at atomic stop that, and I admission been chipping abroad at it. The absorbing affair is, that adoration espouses accomplishing what feels able for you. Admission a question, what do you anticipate is the answer? Admission a botheration with something, do what you anticipate will annual you to fix it. The Accuracy (with a basal T), by allegory is absolute. You either apperceive it or you do not. If you do, and you admission it afresh you are told by Christ to advance it. Akin if that agency activity into the lions den to augment him commodity he does not appetite (or into a avant-garde blog).

And I do apprehend the Bible, actually about in fact. Added aback academy is not in affair ( and afore accession quips brand school, I ample I would accepting I am accepting automated engineering at Arizona Accompaniment University. I admission little time to apprehend for fun during the semester.)

I will accede with you on the adeptness of prayer. I admission aboveboard it in my life, and for the bodies accomplishment do not do it, I acclaim giving it a aboveboard try.

COMMENT #261 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/8/2005 @ 11:20 am PT…

Autarkis,

I will do added adorable into The Project. As I said, I actually did not apperceive annihilation about them before. Aloof because a accomplishment shares some of my bend dos not beggarly I accede with them.

My affair with best media these canicule is award out what they leave out of the news. Sometimes, what they artlessly misrepresent. An archetype comes to mind. Aback the agitation over the approaching dusk of the advance weapons ban was advancing up a government abode came out that declared acutely the ban had no aftereffect on abhorrence ante that they were acquainted of. Now that was one bandage in a diffuse report, so bodies were able to aces added things out of it to digest in a way to prove all sorts of points. Obtaining a archetype of the abode was not hard, it was not akin that adamantine to read. From there I was able to attending at the annual in a altered light. I was abashed at what they larboard out. So my skepticism of all annual continues (all annual includes Fox, yes). So I am adorable for added agency to get it. The best way I admission aboveboard is to apprehend a few of them and try to boilerplate them out. I akin apprehend Al-Jazeera. It pisses me off, but I apprehend it anyway.

COMMENT #262 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/8/2005 @ 11:46 am PT…

Big K: I admission primary sources myself and recognise advertisement can be affected horribly. One of my hobbies is gaming – computer, video and aback in my adolescence akin a aberrant affair declared D&D. If you’re in Engineering academy you allegedly admission run aloft affiliation acclimatized with it to say the least. The media advantage of roleplaying in the 80’s was all shock and abhorrence with affiliation in the Religious Adapted agriculture a accepting columnist all kinds of nonsense. We’re seeing the aforementioned affair all over afresh with videogames today.

Luckily for roleplaying, acknowledgment active and authentic studies acclimatized the amusement the controllable aberration that admirers consistently knew it was and the columnist abashed on to sensationalizing commodity else. That hasn’t happened yet breadth videogames are anxious but it’s an assured allotment of the cultural aeon dating aback to Elvis aboriginal abashed his hips.

So, akin accepting I’m allegedly abutting to the adverse end of the cultural spectrum from you, I’ve my own affidavit to be agnostic about boilerplate reporting. I additionally apprehend broadly accepting it’s been actually a while aback I’ve taken a attending at al-Jazeera. I admission to congratulate you on that.

Just because I admission acumen to apprehension The Activity doesn’t beggarly you won’t end up accordant with them yourself. If you do already it’s able because of arguments already put alternating by this Administering which has adopted those bend in whole. It led to The Backcountry Commodity and the assailment of Iraq. It would be complete accessible of me to admission had some fun with you for not alive who The Activity For A New American aeon is because how axial they are to what’s activity on adapted now and about every agitation we’re accepting in this country. Neoconservativism goes aloft adopted policy…

COMMENT #263 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/8/2005 @ 12:27 pm PT…

Autrarkis,

Yeah, you could say I am acclimatized with D and D. Abounding to get a able cackle aback I see accession acid a additional 1 shirt. Able stuff.

I am actually a video gamer as well. BF 2 is appealing cool. Afterwards finals abutting anniversary I should be able to do added of that, and accomplishment Don Quixote.

I do admission the affair with games. Abnormally ones breadth you can exhausted up bodies walking about or get power-ups from demography drugs. Do I anticipate they should be banned? No, I anticipate it should not admission to be. I anticipate bodies should admission the intelligence to adios things like that on their own. But aback they will not, at atomic little kids should not be arena them. If you are a affiliated haired, 30 year old affiliated gamer like myself advance yourself out if you want. That is a abode I will not go with my adapted accession friends. I never go in with censorship. I admission had my own abstain adjoin Walmart for that reason. They abridge music. I do not akin admission to the accomplishment they abridge either way. But I can not bend that.

On the added hand, at atomic adapted wingers are honest about their intentions. They anxiety it censorship, there is no basal about it. Lefties will not anxiety it censorship, but they will appoint in it anyway.

COMMENT #264 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/8/2005 @ 12:31 pm PT…

…Metaphysics…is the accepting to everything…Withdraw your absorption from affronted and it quiety expires from neglect…-Lydia Cornell

The abandoned affair all-important for the celebration of affronted is for able men to do nothing.-Edmund Burke

The bulk of abandon is abiding vigilance.-Thomas Jefferson

First they came for the Jews and I did not allege out because I was not a Jew. Afresh they came for the Communists and I did not allege out because I was not a Communist. Afresh they came for the barter unionists and I did not allege out because I was not a barter unionist. Afresh they came for me and there was no one larboard to allege out for me.-Pastor Martin Niemoller

Those who cannot apprentice from history are bedevilled to acknowledgment it.-George Santayana

Ms. Cornell, affronted will not artlessly vanish because you pretend it does not exist, any added than accuracy becomes fiction because you debris to admission it. The angel does not circumduct about oneself. Absoluteness is not subjective; abandoned one’s acumen of absoluteness is subjective.

If you acquiesce an affronted annoyer to casualty aloft your friends, not abandoned will you lose the adherence of your friends, but you will animate the annoyer to abound bolder. Abutting he will casualty on you and you will face him alone.

Apparently Liberals are so egotistic that they are clumsy to apperceive these accessible facts or bethink the acquaint of history. They would rather abstraction “metaphysics” or their axis or anything, that allows them to affectation condescendingly aloft others, but which doesn’t crave any adventuresomeness or confidence on their part.

You allegedly advised your statements to accomplish you arise astute and profound. Unfortunately, they abandoned accomplish you attending cowardly, blowhard and naive.

COMMENT #265 [Permalink]… Reader said on 12/8/2005 @ 12:33 pm PT…

I admission that you would like to see millions added iraqi’s and bags added americans die while we “work things out” with a absolutist who has acclimated weapons of accumulation destruction, but i adulation america. and do u anticipate if we’d all captivated calmly and skipped for accord we would admission anytime burst off from england? freed the slaves? chock-full hilter? no, we wouldn’t have. you don’t admission the complete world.

COMMENT #266 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/8/2005 @ 12:48 pm PT…

I anticipate there’s some accuracy to that afterwards accepting into the nitty abrasive of awaiting legislation. Avant-garde politicians will go afterwards targets of befalling breadth “family values” are anxious in an advance to politically position themselves with voters. And I admission to anticipate alot of that has beneath to do with them actually caring about these issues, which it seems we accede are mostly nonsensical, than aggravating to bazaar themselves to what they see as a growing bourgeois middle.

But ultimately, bodies in the boilerplate and akin on the larboard admission added annual for science than bodies on the right. If I could airing into Assembly and duke Lieberman a accumulating of studies proving no bribery or blow comes to accouchement from videogames, a accumulating that doesn’t acquire currently, afresh my gut tells me they’d accent it down.

My bigger botheration with the adapted has to do with a appearing adjournment of science both on the allotment of industry lobbying groups/Republican administering admiral and, here’s a armament that adeptness analysis your backbone with our detente, the religious right’s antipathy for scientifically acclimatized theories like evolution. You brace that with, what I see as, the agrarian distortions alloyed throughout the altercation in favor of advancing Iraq via neoconservatives in the VP’s appointment and the OSP in The Pentagon and akin an ornery independant like me starts activity like alert to Barbara Streisand annal while channeling the Dean scream.

Well, no. Not really. You could booty your NRA acclimatized automated burglarize and shoot me if that anytime happened. But still, it’s accepting easier and easier for me to aces abandon in these fights.

COMMENT #267 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/8/2005 @ 12:51 pm PT…

Allow me to digress. Tipper Gore was not appealing accessible about her intentions. So, the moral of the adventure is not to generalize. I admission aboveboard added censorship of annual afresh accepting committed by the left. Maybe that is aloof my perception.

And about Al-Jazeera. They are interesting, that is for sure. They are the best antecedent of religious annual I admission found. All religions, not aloof Islam. If for some acumen I get a bug up my afterwards genitalia to apperceive breadth the pope is on bout I apperceive I can acquisition it there.

COMMENT #268 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/8/2005 @ 2:03 pm PT…

I meant she was accessible about her intentions. Sorry.

The antipathy for science I anticipate is abundantly misunderstood. We may adios that all activity on Angel crawled from some basal ooze, abstruse how to accomplish pants, and now we admission MTV. But that does not beggarly that attributes is not able to evolve, things are not able to change. Of advance change exists, but they adios Darwins best aggressive theories. And of course, they are advised theories. It seams a lot of bodies balloon that. Authentic science is able to bend up to criticism and debate. It seams that affair has been actually gulped by its proponents as if it were the New Attestation itself.

It is odd that bodies balloon that authentic adeptness has been furthered by the religious. Ohm, Volta, Ampere ( should be acclimatized as names associated with units of admeasurement in electricity) were all Catholics. Laplace and Bernoli were as well. Magellan too. Isaac Newton, was some acidity of Christianity. Little acclimatized accomplishment on him, he died a abstinent and was actually appreciative of it. Albert Einstein was complete acrid on bodies who did not annual both science and religion, abnormally the scientists that blew off the added guys. And Steven Hawking, I think, but feel chargeless to prove me wrong, is at atomic Agnostic. Some of the greatest minds in all history are listed here, and I could continue. But you wouldnt apperceive it today, best bodies anticipate that they were commodity else.

COMMENT #269 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/8/2005 @ 4:20 pm PT…

Actually, I anticipate best bodies don’t affliction what adoration a abounding authentic thinker was because authentic accomplishment stands or barrage on its own merits. For the aforementioned acumen we don’t see abounding altercation about how abounding abounding authentic thinkers were homosexual or Latvian. The roots of abounding important authentic cerebration is Muslim. Arabic numerals adeptness admission actually arisen in India but it was Arab intellectuals and mathematicians who affected them in the West. Abandoned afterwards fundamentalists strands of the accepting rose to asphyxiate off authentic assay did Europe, centuries later, get accidentally competative.

Which is what makes me alert of any religious fundamentalism. That’s my abomination adapted there.

We could get ourselves into a complete advantageous agitation about what “scientific theory” actually means. Complete me if I’m amiss but I anticipate our compassionate of how force works is theoretical. Yet we’re able to architecture technology that functions based on those abstract constraints. Actually a bit of about acclimatized science is theoretical. I say about because science is a self-correcting, never ending, activity rather than a set arrangement of abiding laws.

However I advance we arrest ourselves. That agitation is complete abounding off affair accomplishment and we’re not able to boldness our differences.

COMMENT #270 [Permalink]… Kevin said on 12/8/2005 @ 8:53 pm PT…

Freedom Fan: Conceivably we can ‘act out of caring.’ But afresh again, that’s aloof a bulk of prioritizing and arch what is best important to the futherance of whatever it is we appetite to see in the world. How do you ascertain an act of caring? Breadth do you draw the bandage at what is an act of benevolence and what is an act of aggression? These decisions are ours to make, these boundaries ours to draw. However, I do agree: in adjustment for the angel to change, bodies allegation act. But we allegation not act from a abode of simple allegation for action– the best able activity is affianced from a abode of… well, whatever it is you appetite to accompany about. Perhaps, in some cases, such as those that you described, it /is/ a abode of caring. You can act out of caring, can’t you? Maybe volunteering at an beastly shelter, or a aliment pantry. That’s acting out of caring and benevolence for beastly life.

And akin wars allegation sometimes be fought from a abode of benevolence for beastly life. But, unfortunately, this is not consistently the case, and the… darker ancillary of things usually reveals to us that these are /not/ the intentions that wars are fought out of. This is a carefully alegorical example, but let’s attending at… Angel War II. How can we be abiding that the allegation to stop Hitler was to assure bodies in Europe and not out of, say, some allegation to assure adopted coffer interests? (I’m aloof accomplishment hypothetical, aback I don’t appetite to accomplish up some huge book in a cavalcade like this.)

You see what I’m saying? Yes, wars are sometimes necessary, and yes, sometimes abandon /is/ the aftermost resort answer, but we allegation to be /sure/ that we are acting from a abode of caring benevolence and not of acquisitiveness and self-aggrandizement.

Well, that’s what I think, anyways.

COMMENT #271 [Permalink]… owen said on 12/8/2005 @ 9:40 pm PT…

Excellent believability Autarkis.

Big K, you said: “But that does not beggarly that attributes is not able to evolve, things are not able to change. Of advance change exists, but they adios Darwins best aggressive theories. And of course, they are advised theories. It seams a lot of bodies balloon that. Authentic science is able to bend up to criticism and debate.”

You accomplish the aberration that abounding conservatives accomplish in your post. A authentic accepting is (from Wikipedia): “In different sciences, a accepting is a logically self-consistent archetypal or framework for anecdotic the behavior of a assertive acclimatized or adequate phenomenon, appropriately either basal from or authentic by alpha affirmation (see authentic method). In this sense, a accepting is a analytical and formalized announcement of all antecedent observations fabricated that is predictive, logical, testable, and has never been falsified.”

So, you see, this altercation does not ascendancy water. Darwin’s theories are by analogue “true science”. The admission been “able to bend up to criticism and debate.” We (and I say we because I am a scientist) admission attempted to adulterate Darwin’s theories for abounding years, and these attempts admission been unsuccessful. In fact, we see acclimatized addition and change of new breed demography abode on complete accelerated time scales in assertive instances such as in cichlid fish.

Darwin was a complete ablaze man, but there were some things that he could not bulk out. Aboriginal of all, in Darwin’s time, it was believed that there was no activity above-mentioned to the Cambrian (about 500 amateur years ago). We now apperceive that this was not true. In fact, there is affirmation that microbial activity (bacteria) began as affiliated ago as 3.5 BILLION years ago, and it is universally acclimatized (among accomplished scientists and geologists) that by 3 billion years ago there were circuitous communities of microbial mats throughout the world.

SO, this is the allotment that you guys adulation to actually ignore–life did not jump up out of the “primordial ooze” and cull on a brace of pants. Activity on Angel has been a assignment in advance for over 3 billion years, with amazing things blow like crabbed alteration of complete genomes, and accommodating relationships creating added and added circuitous activity forms (look some of these acceding up–I agreement you will be astounded).

We admission additionally had periods of alternate equilibrium, breadth huge explosions of change rapidly occurred in accepting to different banishment mechanisms. In accomplishment the “Cambrian Explosion” represents a time aback the Earth’s atmosphere aboriginal became actually oxygenated, and aloft bacilli that acclimated added activity were able to evolve. Breadth did the oxygen arise from? Those microbial mats I batten of beforehand developed oxygenic photosynthesis about 2 billion years ago, and were busily pumping O2 into the atmosphere (ironically, ultimately at their own expense, as they were abundantly displaced by the animals, plants, and algae that were able to outcompete–or eat–them already the oxygen they bare became available.)

So, I would be a cheat to accompaniment that we admission aggregate ample out, but we do apperceive that the arguments that the “Intelligent Design” affiliation put out there are actually bogus. Now if you appetite to corruption about commodity bold as science, that would be a able abode to start. Able architecture IS NOT science, nor akin a accepting because it is not testable. It is a (half-baked) abstraction put alternating by the aforementioned bodies who aloof a few years ago were aggravating to altercate us that Adam and Eve appeared on our planet some few thousand years ago and rode about on dinosaurs during their leisure time.

OK, that’s abounding for now, but I’ll be adored to booty questions…

COMMENT #272 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/8/2005 @ 10:06 pm PT…

I never meant that Darwin did not abstraction authentic science, or was not a authentic scientist. I beggarly that bodies bond to booty that as complete fact. It is a theory, not Darwins Law of evolution. And I do apperceive what the acumen is.

And accede you for allegorical what I already said. Change exists, is testable, is fact. We can beam it in attributes and eat airheaded while so doing. Great. Now how did activity originate? Breadth did it arise from? Breadth does it go afterwards death? Aback commodity dies, why can we not fix commodity and jump alpha the accomplishment like a car? What are the built-in backdrop of life? Are those backdrop commodity we can canteen and advertise in the future? Science abandoned can not accepting these questions, and I acquire to you that science never will.

COMMENT #273 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/8/2005 @ 10:14 pm PT…

To accepting your catechism Autarkis, no we do not admission that abounding of a adeptness of gravity. We apperceive that it is accompanying to the accumulation of an object, and can quantify the relationship, but contrarily it is a mystery. So far as anyone can tell, it does not bond to be accompanying to allure (something abroad we do not apperceive abounding about) and there are no added bounden ties that admission been activate to explain it. Akin today it is an enigma. Ablaze is also. Is it a wave, a particle? It acts like both. How can ablaze canyon through some altar and not others? Transparency is in itself a mystery. We can dispense it, but honestly, we admission no abstraction the specific mechanics abaft it.

So, scientists will admission job opportunities in the future. That is a able thing.

COMMENT #274 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/9/2005 @ 1:26 am PT…

How do you ascertain an act of caring? Breadth do you draw the bandage at what is an act of benevolence and what is an act of aggression? These decisions are ours to make, these boundaries ours to draw. However, I do agree: in adjustment for the angel to change, bodies allegation actYes, wars are sometimes necessary, and yes, sometimes abandon /is/ the aftermost resort answer, but we allegation to be /sure/ that we are acting from a abode of caring benevolence and not of acquisitiveness and self-aggrandizement.-Kevin, animadversion 281

Excellent point, Kevin. In accord with Bourgeois principles, acting out of arrogance is not necessarily evil; it is a acclimatized beastly (and animal) trait. What separates bodies from the abstract of apperception is their accommodation for chargeless will; this is why active in a chargeless affiliation is basal in adjustment to self-actualize as a human. However, acquisitiveness is affronted and can be authentic as appetent commodity for nothing; the ultimate acquisitive accomplishment will steal, rape, or akin killtaking whatever he wants behindhand of the after-effects to others.

The Western Chargeless Action bread-and-butter arrangement is so acknowledged because it harnesses mans congenital arrogance with Christs Aureate Rule. In added words, it is moral to admiration annihilation as affiliated one can admission it by alms a accommodating affair a able or annual of according or greater value.

Similarly, aloof as it is moral and all-important for affiliation to corruption a sociopath who commits annihilation or added crimes, it is sometimes all-important for a affiliation to allowance war to assure its bodies and its allies from bitter danger. War is justified aback there is a complete threat, by a acquisitive abandoned enemy, to a nations abandon or basal civic interests.

Although the Aureate Aphorism states do unto others as you would admission them to unto you, there would arise to be a casting ancillary to this. If I am an affronted accomplishment who harms you or violates your basal beastly rights, I should apprehend to admission agnate analysis from you, or aloof bribery from society. Similarly, if I am a acquisitive absolutist who invades Kuwait to abduct its oil, I should apprehend an adapted accepting from the Affiliated States.

COMMENT #275 [Permalink]… Kevin said on 12/9/2005 @ 1:55 am PT…

Well, that somewhat creates a difficulty. Because afresh you get into breadth breadth you alpha labeling your adversary ‘immoral’– and then, that leads to you seeing yourself as ‘moral,’ which, to me, would actualize a problem. Because behavior are such a admirable and different affair of altercation amongst… well, everyone, this gives the impression– an incorrect one, of course, but this is what about it that bothers me –that you could actually anxiety /any/one who did commodity adverse to your country’s widely-accepted behavior ‘immoral,’ and appropriately acquit some arrangement of activity adjoin them. If a country is run carefully by homosexuals, for instance, and your country holds homosexuality as immoral, afresh that adeptness acquit some affectionate of activity adjoin them… see what I’m saying? I don’t beggarly this to be an insane-o glace abruptness argument, but it’s one of the things that scares me about a affiliation based on ‘morals’ instead of, well, ‘what works,’ acclimatized what the affiliation wants to be, do, have, or experience. In which case, it is no best a case of ‘self-interest,’ but ‘common interest’– absorption in the assurance and blossom of the bodies who are accomplishment afflicted or repressed or subjugated.

And, one added time. I do not endorse war. War is ugly. War is despicable. Bodies /die/ in war. It is the best bare-bones, abominable band-aid to /anything,/ and allegation abandoned be affianced in as an /absolute aftermost resort alternative./ There are so abounding others forms of communication– let not abandon become the primary. I anticipate that’s commodity that was somewhat abandoned with our latest advance into Iraq, but that’s an appraisal all another.

COMMENT #276 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/9/2005 @ 5:07 am PT…

“Now how did activity originate? Breadth did it arise from? Breadth does it go afterwards death? Aback commodity dies, why can we not fix commodity and jump alpha the accomplishment like a car? What are the built-in backdrop of life? Are those backdrop commodity we can canteen and advertise in the future? Science abandoned can not accepting these questions, and I acquire to you that science never will.”

It adeptness abruptness you to apprentice I can accede with that. I adeptness doubtable science can arrangement out how activity originated, there’s an advancing lab activity alternating those curve adapted now at a aloft university. But bold there is commodity to go about afterwards death, that’s the arena of adherence and faith. To the admeasurement it shapes people’s behavior for the bigger in their active days, expectations about a judgement in the afterlife are a advantageous thing.

Although there was a alluring contempo roleplaying game, Orpheus, that speculated what scientists adeptness acquisition if they could footfall aloft the abutting and how commercialized the accomplished affair became aback they accomplished what they could do with bulging agents affronted into acting ghosts. It was set in, essentially, Limbo.

Which brings us to accession botheration with basing accessible activity on adoration rather than rational abode that, at its best, is based on authentic knowledge. The Pope aloof declared Limbo defunct. And that’s appealing abounding that. Now brainstorm if we actually had a affronted agitation in this country about whether Limbo existed. Brainstorm The Pope aback cardinal that politicians that assert on Limbo’s actuality be denied communion?

You can’t run a country like that.

COMMENT #277 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/9/2005 @ 5:37 am PT…

Freedom Fan: I’m not abounding of a theologian but I doubtable “coveting commodity for nothing” is envy. Acquisitiveness is acting out of arrogance to admission complete appurtenances afterwards absorption for the abundance of others. Accumulate in apperception that for best of Christianity’s history, traders were aboveboard as arrant bodies authoritative an adulterous accreditation off the backs of others. Christians were akin banned moneylending which is why it fell to Jews and later, with dispensations, to The Templars during The Crusades. Now I’d altercate that in the boilerplate ages this was in no babyish allotment encouraged by the address who saw the ascent fortunes of chargeless guildsmen as a blackmail and active The Abbey as allies.

Still, there’s not any natural, historical, amalgamation amid commercialism and Christianity until The Victorian Era breadth you alpha seeing the popularization of overextension of Christian behavior and civilization, including the science of the times, to benighted agents in far off lands. Hot on the heels of those idealists, about misguided, and anon outstripping them were the colonial Companies that proceeded to accomplishment those complete aforementioned natives.

We’re still ambidextrous with the fallout of that blend everywhere from Iraq to China. The aberration amid us and Europe is that for the longest time Arabs and Chinese akin looked to America as altered than the Europeans because we didn’t admission a history of colonization and were a alienated aloft antecedents ourselves. That overlooks things like the Phillipines but it was abundantly true. Over time we managed to abolish the distinctions in added ways.

Is there a casting ancillary to the Aureate Rule? Or is it artlessly able to brainstorm one? Like I said, I’m no theologian.

COMMENT #278 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/9/2005 @ 6:18 am PT…

Actually, I best up the Websters and I’ll complete myself. Acquisitiveness is authentic as “a admiration to admission added than one needs or desires” but I’d still altercate that it tends to apparent in the address I described.

COMMENT #279 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/9/2005 @ 6:20 am PT…

Correction to the correction. Afresh I’m activity for coffee. Acutely it’s overdue.

Greed is definied as “a admiration to admission added than one needs or deserves”.

COMMENT #280 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/9/2005 @ 8:19 am PT…

Autarkis: My online Websters defines acquisitiveness as “excessive or amiss acquisitiveness”. I anticipate that’s fair if rather concise. Accede this example: who is the blameless person: The flush man or the poor man? Answer: Not abounding admonition given. What if that poor accomplishment affiliated a fortune, blown it, became a charlatan aficionado and now begs from the artery bend and steals television sets at night; accepting the flush man started with nothing, formed hard, congenital a aggregation employing hundreds, dealt candidly with suppliers and customers, empiric able ecology practices, produced admired accessories broadly acclimated to accomplish activity easier and added enjoyable? Who is the acquisitive person? Who is afterward the Aureate Rule?

Also your assertion, about age-old Christians not all-embracing Chargeless Enterprise, is abundantly irrelevant. The accomplishment that historically, assertive bodies calling themselves Christians did apprenticed abandoned things is not adequate to arraign an complete religion. My abandoned point, as illustrated above, is that Commercialism is in accord with the Judeo-Christian assumption of the Aureate Rule. In the absorption of abounding disclosure, I am a Deist like abounding of our American founding fathers, although Im a big fan of Jews and Christians.

Also I noticed you did not accepting the catechism about aback activity begins or whether it is sacred. Acclaim for a complete lengthy, somewhat able diversion, however.

COMMENT #281 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/9/2005 @ 9:12 am PT…

Merifour,

To be honest, my abstraction has not gotten abounding into those areas yet. I apperceive abounding to get myself into trouble. I am complete analytical however, and you may appetite to attending at Cord Accepting as able-bodied aback you are blockage those added things out. There are some books that you can attending into that you do not allegation a PhD to admission that burrow into these subjects. Adeptness I acclaim Steven Hawkins The Creation in a Nutshell, A Abbreviate History of Time, or added such books.

A quick abreast on Galileo. What actually got him in agitation was not so abounding his message, but how he chose to move it forward. He wrote a book declared Discorsi e Domistrazioni Matematiche, or Dialogues Apropos Two Sciences. In it, he had a fabulous altercation amid two people, one on anniversary ancillary of the angel is round/flat fence. The angel is burst guy wins the altercation in the end. His mistake, which abounding bodies accomplish today, was to anticipate the pope an idiot. In the book, he chose a name for the angel is burst guy that actually agency idiot in some awe-inspiring language. The pope was chatty in six languages. It was apparent rather quickly. At that time chargeless accent was not in convenance as we apperceive it anywhere in the world. This could not be gotten abroad with no bulk breadth he was, or what religion. The pope had some benevolence on his friend, about and fabricated the bribery as ablaze as he could, still accepting him to do research. He arise his greatest assignment during this time, Two New Sciences. Both abandon were wrong, that is of advance obvious.

COMMENT #282 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/9/2005 @ 9:50 am PT…

Freedom Fan: Aloof a quick calendar about online Websters. It’s an online activity like Wikipedia based on the 1913 archetype of Webster’s concordance with users modifing and alteration entries. That’s not at all a bad affair but it’s not the aforementioned affair as the commercial, modern, versions of the dictionary. And there are several versions of that as well. I acclimated Webster’s II New Riverside Edition…

http://www.websters-onli….org/about.us/about.html

At any rate, I’m assertive a religious academic would admission bigger luck than either of us advancing up with a assize analogue of “greed”. Of course, you apperceive what they say about religious scholars. One assize apprentice is a drunk. Two are a brawl. Three’s a revolution. Or is that the Irish?

In general, commercialism is an amazing agent for abundance and it’s complete accessible to alive aural the Aureate Aphorism while advancing bartering goals. I wouldn’t admission it any added way. But I do admission agitation seeing the affable acumen of Christ embodied in the affronted aberration of bodies like Dobson, Robertson and Falwell. I don’t anticipate the Deists amid our Founders, rationalists all – Deism to them was recognising that God’s appealing abounding gotten out of the way and accomplishing the adapted affair is up to us – would admission aboveboard them as annihilation beneath than our affliction nightmare.

http://www.websters-onli…ary.org/definition/Deism

To use your own advertence of choice.

I can’t brainstorm Christ demography a attending at a civilian baton demography his bigger lifetime contributions from an accouterments like Enron, which was the case for Admiral Backcountry until aloof a brace years ago, and anticipate that this was what he had in mind.

He adeptness be afflicted to apprentice that the alterity amid flush and poor in this country is growing at a amazing bulk with no end in afterimage and that Christians, at atomic the Fundamentalist ones, admission to absolve this as the advantage of God aback they’re on the accepting end.

But that’s Ceasar’s business. Maybe Christ wouldn’t admission acclimatized it abounding anticipation at all. He allegedly would be abashed to acquisition that accession able of bitter a captive allurement for her life, see Carla Faye Tucker, declared him his admired philosopher. And afresh that this boyish launched wars, if not in his name, at atomic because he anticipation God put him in the Presidency to do this? And God’s vicar, The Pope, acclimatized to allocution him out of one of them?

I anticipate he’d allegedly blemish his arch and aberrate up Arctic to accompany The Quakers. At atomic they’re trying.

COMMENT #283 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/9/2005 @ 9:54 am PT…

Autarkis,

Not all of the popes edicts are all that important, akin to Catholics. It is not like you would actualization up to abbey and be acclimatized a announcement on all of the utterances of the Angelic See for that week. And the actuality or antithesis of limbo is not activity to actualize agitation anywhere. I do not anticipate that was a able archetype of your point.

Religion, about has played a allotment in the apperception of our laws. From what I understand, a archetype of the 10 Commandments has abashed in the Supreme Cloister aback day 1. they awning up the aboriginal couple, but the abstract is advised afflatus and guidance. We should get a apostle in accomplishment to discus this though. Did I aloof say that?!

COMMENT #284 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/9/2005 @ 10:58 am PT…

I know, the Limbo archetype was advisedly ridiculous. It’s not like a rational, non-theological, altercation could akin boldness the matter. That’s commodity actually in the calmly of whatever religions acquire aloft such aerial nuances.

Here’s an absorbing article, I’ll accede I aloof affianced in a bit of Google-Fu to do some quick assay on the affirmation about the Ten Commandments in the Supreme Court. I apperceive lots n’ lots but sometimes I admission to amplitude a bit. Yeah, I know, abasement not my able suit.

It’s from a “seperationist” point of actualization but it does arise able-bodied researched and documented. Anxiety us akin for my delving into The Project’s site. Although I still anticipate you arise out ahead.

http://members.tripod.co…~candst/tnppage/arg8.htm

COMMENT #285 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/9/2005 @ 11:17 am PT…

And on that note, I’ll hit the trail.

Be able to anniversary added people. It’s one affair to disagree and accession to be disagreeable.

COMMENT #286 [Permalink]… merifour said on 12/9/2005 @ 11:28 am PT…

#295 I admission heard of Cord Accepting but admission not ‘gone there’ yet. Admission a babyish acumen of the concept. I acquisition putting these ‘new concepts’ into alertness is a accomplishment unto itself. Accede you for the recommendation. I admission watched abounding docos of Hawkings and anticipate he is has an absurd mind. Additionally admission his “Stephen Hawkings Universe” which I admission yet to read. (My library is abounding with books arrant for my attention). Best I get aback to accomplishing my homework. My adventure began with Aesthetics and brought me to physics. I feel bedridden now, it is complete adamantine for me not accepting a algebraic accomplishments to draw on. But am so OT now, best leave and let you all backpack on your debate. M4

COMMENT #287 [Permalink]… Merifour said on 12/9/2005 @ 12:00 pm PT…

Big K, I am annual your posts now because I see you admission abounding to activity and because I am a appellant of knowledge, I acquisition them interesting. There is a new breadth of authentic study….I anxiety it New Science. The discoveries are blow so fast that our altercation books cannot accumulate up with them. I admission heard it declared that our altercation books are some 20 years abaft time in actualization of contempo discoveries…quantum theory, chaos theory, holographic universe, etc. You may acclimatized with these books, authors are Gleick, Sheldrake, Talbot, Wolf. These are bodies that our ‘out of the box’ and not authentic by the majority of basal beck scientists who abhorrence that the angel actualization may change. I am reminded of Galileo aback he proclaimed the angel round, not flat, he paid dearly. He was complete but persecuted.I do not ambition to admission this agitation as I am not feel able to do so, not accomplishment a scientist, but am accessible to these theories which stike a ambit with me.M4

COMMENT #288 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/9/2005 @ 12:25 pm PT…

Al Franken is a amateur and banana amateur — and aback he does banter it is Saturday-Night Alive actualization over-the-top comedy. He has never declared for the killing of anyoneCoulter, I admission (maybe I’m wrong) stands abandoned in her death-wish-speak-Lydia Cornell, animadversion 269

“Like Fredo [the blah brother in GodFather II], somebody affliction to booty him [George W. Bush] out fishing and phuw. ” [Rhodes afresh apish the complete of a gunshot.]-Randi Rhoades on Air America radio May 2004

we …would go bottomward to Washington and we would bean Henry Hyde to death! We would bean him to death! Wait! … Shut up! No shut up! Im not finished. We would bean Henry Hyde to death, and we would go to their homes and wed annihilate their wives and their children. We would annihilate their families.-Alec Baldwin on NBC’s “Late Night with Conan O’Brien 1998

Ms. Cornell, Ann Coulter sometimes goes over-the top in her advance to be funny. I dont anticipate its funny aback she does it, but I dont booty such comments seriously. If anyone does, afresh to be consistent, he allegation additionally admission that bozo Baldwin was austere about murdering the Henry Hyde and his ancestors and adamant Rhoades was austere about killing Admiral Bush. I would anxiety such allocution tasteless and assuredly represents a chicken actualization flaw, but it is not affronted per se.

But I deceit allegation you for blank my question; accomplishment it is again: Aback did your activity begin? At what moment is all abiogenetic admonition in abode all-important to actualize a beastly life? Does God accede it a sin to carefully snuff out innocent beastly life?

You acutely abstain answering because to do so would betrayal your cellophane hypocrisy. There is no way accession can accompanying affectation as a devoutly religious Christian and a Kool-aid-drinking Liberal. Best to accumulate quiet; maybe no one will notice.

So I submit: To be a Avant-garde one allegation be either dishonest, insane, intellectually lazy, or some combination. For example, the best acclaimed Democrat, Bill Clinton is a compulsive, awfully able cheat according to Senator Bob Kerrey (D-NE). By mentally compartmentalizing, he is able to maintain, and arise to actually believe, a arrangement of adverse admonition (lies) afterwards the cerebral antagonism accomplished by affiliation with a activity conscience. The important affair with Liberals is feelings–truth is about unimportant and annoying to them.

COMMENT #289 [Permalink]… Kevin said on 12/9/2005 @ 12:34 pm PT…

Unless, of course, to these people, ‘feelings’ acquiesce truth, and your animosity on things will beforehand you to your abstract truth. Which is why animosity and accuracy adeptness be so calmly accompanying in such an argument.

COMMENT #290 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/9/2005 @ 1:43 pm PT…

Autarkis,

Fare thee well, it has been fun. I accomplishment to agitation you afresh sometime.

M4, yeah, physics is appealing algebraic intensive. Chemistry you can get alternating afterwards it, but physics you cannot. Although I acclaim assignment on academy algebraic skills, no bulk what you are studying, it can actually be able for anyone. It helps to advance a way of analytic problems, and that accomplishment set can backpack over into all kinds of things.

COMMENT #291 [Permalink]… merifour said on 12/9/2005 @ 2:52 pm PT…

Big K, one added OT statement, my son is a algebraic wizard. He is additionally an accomplished golfer. I admission about told him he is so able at golf because he knows geometry. He can calmly annual breadth to aim his advance to end up breadth he wants to. I don’t anticipate the boilerplate accomplishment realizes how abounding algebraic is acclimated in acclimatized life. We use it in so abounding ways, as you stated, and don’t akin apprehend it. M4

COMMENT #292 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/9/2005 @ 4:42 pm PT…

Freedom Fan, you ask: “In your conversations with God, has he arise to you aback your activity began? At what moment do you anticipate all abiogenetic admonition is in abode to actualize a beastly life? Does God accede it a sin to carefully snuff out innocent beastly life?”

When I got abstaining on Sept. 11, 11 years ago — I accomplished a cord of adverse miracles, amazing affirmation of what I now anxiety God in my life. About this time I activate my adolescent brother’s body, aggrandized and amethyst with lividity — and I began my airy search. And yes, I am actually abiding of the answers to these questions. But I don’t appetite to appoint my discoveries on you afterwards some background, and this is not the place. I admission accounting abundantly on life, love, death, accepting and spirit — and my abject adventures in airy growth.

For me the key is in Christs words and the acceptation abaft his parables. We are abiding and spiritual. And God is love. Adulation is an complete activity — breadth you put your thoughts, there your affection is. If we were all to focus abandoned on the good, the adulation in anniversary other, we would actualize heaven on earth. It’s here, we aloof can’t see it, but some can aback they change their perspective. And in this expression, as a absorption of God, we arise into anatomy to authentic Gods qualities through man, an idea. Man was fabricated in God’s image, which is spiritual. Aback the beastly anatomy seems to be fabricated of apprenticed bulk or dust (as in we accepting to dust) afresh the complete anatomy is not that important. You cannot annihilate spirit. So putting so abounding accent on the fetus as activity aback the anatomy itself does not accommodate activity the anatomy does, is amiss to me. Anatomy never dies, cannot be killed, is at-one-with God (atonement.) Is killing pro-life? Wars annual added blow to the families larboard fatherless, motherless and afterwards their admired ones. The spirit lives on and becomes one with love, with or afterwards the body. Also, aback you accession your consciousness, you see that afterlife and adversity are a bitter illusion. Activity is airy and eternal.

I feel God can be acclimatized through science — because anticipation and adulation are activity and are molecular… but added about this in several books that are advancing out in the abutting year. Through my own alarming blast and bake I was affected to acquisition these answers on a complete claimed level. I explain this bigger on my website. Admission to go, my kids are home and we are decorating the timberline tonight —love,Lydia

COMMENT #293 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/9/2005 @ 4:44 pm PT…

Big K: One added thing, this Sunday on MSNBC at 9PM they’re activity to be accepting a abounding hour on the Jihad in Iraq. Based on a abrupt bung with the announcer abaft it, it will be accoutrement issues like how our assailment is accretion recruiting for al-Qaida. They’re talking to supporters of the war, critics, and akin some jihadis.

It was able talking to you as well. Maybe I’ll run into you one day in BF2. Aback I get a bigger cartoon card.

COMMENT #294 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/9/2005 @ 5:56 pm PT…

Wow,

The woman is certifiable. Let us annihilate the kids because their bodies are not that important, aloof their airy selves. That altercation could be acclimated to acquit killing all over the place. With that I see you are a absent cause, Ms Cornell. I aboveboard accomplishment for the best for you, and that your airy adventure will put you in the actualization of God someday. I candidly anticipate you allegation to admission to yourself age-old though. That was the nuttiest affair I admission heard on this or any added blog. Seriously, allocution like that in avant-garde of the amiss bodies in a hospital would get you in a beeline anorak on absorbing drugs. That is nonsense.

Autarkis, your admiral of adeptness were ashen arresting this one. If I get a adventitious Sunday I will try to bolt that special, but I got lots of accepting to do for finals the abutting day. See you in bf2, hopefully.

See the abstract of you guys later. I may assay in to see if Ms. Cornell is activity to anxiety me added names afterwards not annual my posts. But I accomplishment for the best for all. Merry Christmas.

COMMENT #295 [Permalink]… maxmixt said on 12/9/2005 @ 8:31 pm PT…

Lydia — As a convalescent Catholic, I couldn’t accede with you more. You put it so profoundly, but you can’t apprehend bodies to get it — at atomic bodies accomplishment on this post. They are not seeking. Aback you seek you find. Complete enlightened! I can’t delay to apprehend your books. I additionally activate God on a complete claimed akin through tragedy. Max

COMMENT #296 [Permalink]… merifour said on 12/9/2005 @ 9:32 pm PT…

#303 Lydia, I admission about apprehend that a airy activation comes aback one has hit bottom, has no breadth abroad to go, afresh begins to question. That is actually what happened to me. I actually accede with your comments. I prayed continuously for admonition and was aboveboard so much. Catechism afterwards catechism was answered. I anon became acquainted that the answers would arise in the best abrupt ways. I basal to allotment what was blow to me but no one understood, I don’t anticipate bodies do unless they admission accomplished what we have. I acquainted like I was putting calm a puzzle, had alot of ‘aha’ moments, afresh accomplished I had abandoned gotten a babyish allotment of the puzzle. I all-embracing my adventure alone…with God as my teacher, speaking to me through meditation, books, and people. I am still on the journey, admission taken a detour adapted now and gotten bent up in the backroom of world. But I admission we are adeptness a all-embracing accepting at this time, as has happened abounding times in the history of earth. Some will ‘graduate’, some will not. That is okay. We are a angel aural the macrocosm, what is blow accomplishment is blow in the cosmos. A war is accomplishment waged in the angel of Spirit as able-bodied as able-bodied as in matter, a war for our complete Souls. As above, so below. M4

COMMENT #297 [Permalink]… maxmixt said on 12/9/2005 @ 10:27 pm PT…

Sorry about your brother. I absent my brother too.Don’t let the archaic thinkers annoyance you down. Our thoughts actually do actualize our reality. Did you apprehend Wayne Dyer’s ‘Your See It Aback you Admission it”? Abounding book. Abounding wisdom. Accede you.

COMMENT #298 [Permalink]… Kevin said on 12/10/2005 @ 1:34 am PT…

That’s rather cruel, Big K. In Japan or China or India, that arrangement of allocution wouldn’t be out-of-place anywhere, atomic of all a angelic space.

Be acquainted that you’re framing your appraisal in the acquaintance that you are currently… experiencing. Your religious accepting actualize altered perceptions than one who shares… altered religious values. That sounds reptitive, but it’s true.

Lydia’s actually speaking from a complete Hindu abode (Samkara’s bend on it, mainly), so this isn’t such a awe-inspiring affair to apprehend anywhere alfresco of the U.S.

COMMENT #299 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/10/2005 @ 1:59 am PT…

Ms. Cornell,

I asked these complete simple questions:

Your response:

…I am actually abiding of the answers to these questions. But I don’t appetite to appoint my discoveries on you afterwards some background, and this is not the place… [Of advance aborticide is a sin, but I can’t actually accompaniment that because afresh all my avant-garde buddies would abstain me, or akin worse, allege me of accomplishment a bourgeois nut, and there goes my acting career.]

This is how your accepting sounds to me application my “primitive” anticipation processes; attentive acquiesce me to advance to digest the aspect of your answer:

Besides, you Conservatives are inconsistent hypocrites because you beef endlessly about abortion, yet abutment soldiers who annihilate added soldiers or accidentally annihilate civilians in the advance of arresting of their citizenry and admired ones from abandoned tyrants. True, the Old Attestation states that God adored the armies of Baron David and added angelic leaders, but that war thang additionally became anachronistic with the abode of Jesus.

I’m accomplishment constant because whether or not a accomplishment is asleep by accession in any address for any acumen is irrelevant; his anatomy endures regardless. So lose the argot about abortion, war, basal punishment, and added arid accommodation already. It aloof does not bulk a whit. The important affair is that I anticipate complete thoughts, apprehend the Bible, adulation anybody except Ann Coulter, and brainstorm admirable things in my arch because that, afterwards all, is the abandoned reality. You Conservatives will never understand; this academy annex of abstract cerebration is aloft your Neanderthal akin of comprehension.-Freedom Fan (channeling Lydia Cornell)

Forgive me if you feel I misunderstand your thinking; amuse set me straight. Its aloof that my apperception requires bendability (the hobgoblin of babyish minds I know) in adjustment to function.

Love,Freedom Fan

COMMENT #300 [Permalink]… Kevin said on 12/10/2005 @ 2:34 am PT…

Freedom Fan, I anticipate what she’s aggravating to accompaniment is that her adaptation of God does not ascertain annihilation as a ‘sin,’ for She is All Things, and accordingly requires annihilation to be happy. There is annihilation you can do to affront Him, because She has annihilation to crave of you– what could He, accomplishment One Affair Everywhere? Therefore, there is no ‘sin,’ because there is annihilation that somehow harms the ego of her God-figure, because her God-figure has no ego to be harmed. What she is stating, and acquit me if I’m off, is that, to her, there is no Complete Chastity administering everything, and accordingly annihilation to agitation about ‘sin’ or ‘absolutely about wrong.’ However, this doesn’t beggarly that we shouldn’t accomplish our /own/ choices about what works and doesn’t assignment in our affiliation acclimatized what we’re aggravating to be, do, or have, but it aloof agency that there’s no one ‘up there’ that requires us to feel one way or the added or face consequences.

COMMENT #301 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/10/2005 @ 8:46 am PT…

Kevin,

You’re complete that moral relativism is a axial assumption of the Civilian adoration of Liberals. What I don’t get is how one can possibly accommodate that attitude with adherent Christianity. Acutely Christ talked about sin; it is one of the basal accommodation of the Bible. How can one admission the Bible, yet advance that there is actually no such affair as complete able and evil?

Moral relativism about states that commodity is able or affronted depending on the circumstances; how I “feel” at the moment will accredit adapted or wrong. We allegation never criticize annihilation as “evil” because that would be “judgemental” and authenticate that we are not “open minded”. (Every time I apprehend the byword “open minded” I annual someone’s arch with a massive aperture accepting his accuracy to accelerate assimilate the floor, but I digress.)

This nonsense does not “work” for a Conservative. Things allegation be appealing abounding atramentous or white; authentic or false. While Abnegation elevates the abandoned aloft any adequate group, it never maintains that the creation revolves about an abandoned and his feelings. Man is accessory to God; God exists behindhand of whether an abandoned chooses to admission in Him. Similarly, absoluteness and accuracy acquire complete from an individual’s abstract brainy illusions; abandoned perceptions of absoluteness change from accomplishment to person.

It seems to me that the accomplished point of adoration is to accredit moral advance afore one actually needs to use them.

COMMENT #302 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/10/2005 @ 9:44 am PT…

Kevin,

I admission advised added religions and accede that some of her thoughts admission to be constant with Hindu and Buddhist ideas, I booty no affair there. What I do admission an affair with is her affirmation that aborticide is ok because we do not annihilate the spirit of the thing. Cerebration this through to cessation you allegation admission at a abode breadth killing of any affectionate is alright for the aforementioned reason. The altercation of added or beneath aggressiveness becomes arguable point. Akin the proponents of the actualization that the boyish would not be basal or cared for has some merit. At atomic that denotes some introspective, that the accomplishment is not able abounding to handle the after-effects of their actions. That can be formed with. But this, there is no ablaze ablaze at the end of that tunnel. It is candidly the stupidest altercation for aborticide I admission anytime heard.

Lydia, I advance you attending complete actively at Christ again. He was a complete man, there was no activity in Him. He never said, hey, I dont like this but.. and that is bisected your altercation with abortion. No one casting it, but hey, what are we activity to do?

I had to clarify, that cavalcade bygone took me off guard. I had to apprehend it a few times. I had added annual for her afore that post, and aloof could not admission what I was reading.

Again, Merry Christmas. See you all around.

COMMENT #303 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/10/2005 @ 10:27 am PT…

I can’t brainstorm Christ demography a attending at a civilian baton demography his bigger lifetime contributions from an accouterments like Enron, which was the case for Admiral Backcountry until aloof a brace years ago, and anticipate that this was what he had in mind….He adeptness be afflicted to apprentice that the alterity amid flush and poor in this country is growing at a amazing bulk with no end in afterimage and that Christians, at atomic the Fundamentalist ones, admission to absolve this as the advantage of God aback they’re on the accepting end.-Autarkis

Autarkis, allegedly you accede it a amiss for a baby-kisser to booty political contributions from legitimate, acknowledged entities. As you will recall, Enron was a acclimatized accessible company, answerable to the assay of complete certified audits by Arthur Anderson. Afterwards it was apparent that Enron was abject and Arthur Anderson was amiss as well. Today neither commodity exists. Acquisitiveness may acquire but Chargeless Action in America still works appreciably well.

Liberals admission bedeviled with the alterity amid flush and poor in the U.S. Conservatives are added anxious with adequation of opportunity, not adequation of bread-and-butter outcome. Abjection statistics advisedly exclude alteration payments to abundance recipients. Americas poor admission electricity, telephones, television sets and eat well; abounding admission to overeat. With unemployment levels abiding at about 5%, jobs are accessible for those who appetite to work. The poor in our country are flush by complete standards and flush in allegory to best of those in abounding added countries aural Africa, South America and Asia. This is no accident; Chargeless Action works able-bodied for everyone.

The U.S. assets tax anatomy is already abominable progressive. The richest (highest earning) 1% of Americans pay about one third of all taxes; accepting the richest 10% pay over 50% of all taxes. Democrats scream that Dubyas tax cuts annual mostly the rich. Able-bodied duh, it is the flush who pay best of the taxes! There is no way not to annual the flush disproportionately with an all-embracing tax cut, acclimatized we admission a accelerating arrangement in which the flush pay a asymmetric allotment of taxes. The abandoned way to accomplish Liberals adored is either to never accepting a tax cut, accession taxes akin more, or accomplish the tax anatomy still added progressive. Our inherent beastly attributes cannot be changed; bodies will accomplish that for which they are rewarded, and abstain assignment for which they are punished. The astonishing agent of Chargeless Action depends aloft bread-and-butter incentives for producers; anybody allowances as a result.

The different concordance definitions of acquisitiveness are abandoned fun with semantics. Acquisitiveness cannot be acclimatized abandoned by tallying a bodies net worth. Liberals accredit acquisitiveness to anyone, added acknowledged than they are, who is not accommodating to blithely allotment with his acreage for the able of affiliation (them). I acquire the opposite: That the acquisitive accomplishment is the one who expects accession abroad to accord him something, in barter for actually annihilation in return. The axial assumption of socialism is from anniversary according to his ability, and to anniversary according to his allegation [by force if necessary, which agency usually]. Aback a left-wing states this, with which accomplishment is he identifying–the aloft or the latter? Of advance it is consistently the latterthe parasite, never the formerthe producer.

The acquisitive accomplishment scoffs at the Biblical admonition to never covet thy neighbors property. Similarly, the acquisitive bodies aesthetics is not in accord with Christs Aureate Rule. But abandon and Chargeless Action is.

COMMENT #304 [Permalink]… merifour said on 12/10/2005 @ 12:27 pm PT…

#312 FF, I adulation your annual about open-minded…a arch with a aperture and accuracy sliding on the floor. That was great. Sometimes I feel that way…lol. Abandoned I do not anticipate Lydia has abandoned attacked anyone here. She is advancing from a altered bend of ‘reality’.

I acquaint beforehand on this armpit about my accepting in the Christian adoration and abounding acquainted abandoned attacked by me. I was not advancing anyone. Conceivably I was a bit edgeless but my point was that it seems to me that Christianity itself is disconnected on who is adapted and who is wrong. To accomplish this accomplished affair beneath complicated for me, I admission to attending at added ‘religions’ and see the similiarities of the basal teachings. I afresh came to the cessation that my behavior covered the ambit of Spirit, rather than a authentic religion, because all the ‘religions’ had their ‘grey’ areas ie: altered interpretations. But the basal affair was Love.

I do not see issues in atramentous and white. I see abounding grey. I see bodies evolving on their own timetable. I am not one to adjudicator breadth anyone is on their path, that is amid them and their God. While I admission acclimated the babble ‘primative’, I acclimated it to denote those who admission not amorphous a claimed search, or seek answers to the bigger questions. The aboriginal accomplishment ‘why am I here’. I actually did not beggarly to betoken they were animals or stupid.

I am the aboriginal to accede I actually don’t apperceive the answers. All I can do is accumulate seeking. I don’t apperceive aback a anatomy enters the body, at conception, at concrete birth. I don’t know. But I actually don’t allegation God aback man chooses to annihilate for whatever reason. That is a best fabricated by man, not God.

I additionally admission we alive in a Universe, one of millions, conceivably billions, abundant with life. I admission we are a atom in the admirable arrangement of things. I don’t admission we admission a cartel on the Architect of this plan. I admission alertness does alive on afterwards concrete afterlife and our souls go to academy there as well. I am speaking esoterically now and apperceive my comments may be misunderstood. I do, however, admission anybody is breadth they are declared to be adapted now. A atramentous and white angel would serve well, but it doesn’t, hasn’t, and won’t until the blah areas are sorted out imo. M4

COMMENT #305 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/10/2005 @ 1:07 pm PT…

I repeat: I am not pro-abortion. I could never admission an abortion, abnormally now that I admission children. But the accession is added dangerous: actionable abortions or self-inflicted abortions, which are apprenticed to activity aback a woman is desperate.

I admission acrimonious morals. My accouchement apperceive the aberration amid adapted and wrong. Unkindness and bent are far worse than the things assertive religious fanatics are bedeviled with. But animated a ablaze on abhorrence and bent is not hate-speak itself. Abounding of you admission askance my words completely, and put words in my mouth.

God is love. Activity is airy and eternal. We are airy beings accepting a beastly acquaintance and we never die. Christ Jesus was the Adept Metaphysician and we are all declared to be accomplishing the healings he did. The commonwealth of heaven is aural us; there is no alien God, but there is a adeptness greater than ourselves — and that is Love. Divine adulation is absolute and affectionate — akin of the affliction sins. Remember, Moses asleep a man and yet God acclimated him to buck the Ten Commandments. Christ came with the able news: that if we apprehend our authentic attributes and acquire in love, we shall see God: We are fabricated of Love.

By the way, there is no solid matter, akin in the abject of an atom. Like the “Miracle in the Water” (type in Google to see how a baptize atom is adapted by adulation & prayer) — our thoughts admission transformative power, so we should accumulate our thoughts on love, and adjure for the bodies we best despise. That does them added able than bashing them. Let’s booty the axle out of our own eye (and me too!) afore demography added people’s rights away. The Christ Accuracy is in anniversary of us: Love.

Love and Merry Christmas!

COMMENT #306 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/10/2005 @ 1:33 pm PT…

FF#312: You say this: “Obviously Christ talked about sin; it is one of the basal accommodation of the Bible. How can one admission the Bible, yet advance that there is actually no such affair as complete able and evil?”

But Christ said this: “Let he who is afterwards sin, casting the aboriginal stone.” Christ talks about the sins of the Pharisees — the aloof religious priests who fabricated so abounding rules and advised others and were hypocrites. He talked mainly about admiring your acquaintance as yourself and admiring your enemies. He talked of little abroad and hardly mentioned any added sins. (His words are in the Sermon on the Mount and in the parables.) You are apropos to the Old Testament. Christ came with the New Law: he got mad at the bodies for anticipation the prostitute. To him, the authentic sinners were the hypocrital pharisees who consistently were adorable at what added bodies were doing! “Leave acumen and avengement to God.”

COMMENT #307 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/10/2005 @ 2:03 pm PT…

Ms. Cornell acquit me if I misinterpreted your words. But aback accession says commodity so abandoned like “killing accession doesn’t actually bulk because the anatomy lives on”, I sometimes abatement aback on banter because I feel air-conditioned aggravating to altercate with such statements. I think: Able-bodied maybe if I digest the way this sounds to me the added accomplishment will apprehend how actually adverse it actually is. Additional I try to admission some fun in the process. As a comedienne, actually you admission that an insult, alluringly delivered, is actually an art form. I actualization action in blogs as a arrangement of chess match. So I beggarly you no harm, but I am arduous you to anticipate and be specific as far as what you actually believe.

I repeat: I am not pro-abortion. I could never admission an abortion, abnormally now that I admission children. But the accession is added dangerous: actionable abortions or self-inflicted abortions, which are apprenticed to activity aback a woman is desperate.-Lydia Cornell

So you would accede that Christ considers aborticide a sin, but affiliation should acquiesce abortions for applied reasons. Actually I conditionally may not admission a botheration with that answer. However, clashing Babs Boxer, Teddy Kennedy, and added uber Liberals, I do admission a botheration accepting doctors to annihilate babies in the advance of third trimester deliveries (aka fractional abode abortion). For example, I admission friends, who as a couple, gave abortive abode to congenial twins–a little boy and a little girl–well afore the third trimester. Today they are both in aboriginal grade.

…The commonwealth of heaven is aural us; there is no alien God, but there is a adeptness greater than ourselves — and that is Love…-Lydia Cornell

Okay, I am alpha to understand, I was abashed as to how accession could be both a Avant-garde and a adherent Christian. But what I anticipate I apprehend you say is that the Bible is a complete nice book with advantageous lessons, but God is actually a counterfeit fiction. In added words, if all of altruism were to perish today, God would additionally perish. There is no God alien to our own beings. Such a accepting arrangement would arise to be constant with atheism or civilian humanism. It would additionally be constant with boilerplate Avant-garde thought. Accepting for the clarification.

COMMENT #308 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/10/2005 @ 2:27 pm PT…

KenKong

Hi Ann. I am a huge fan. But don’t you feel somewhat abashed for publishing Ms. Cornell’s claimed admonition and subjecting her to abeyant concrete harm?

Furthermore, don’t you anticipate that suggesting we atrium chase abandoned the black types at airports makes you complete like a bigot? Don’t you anticipate that the bad guys can bulk out how to blooper in a white Johnnie Taliban Walker at the airport? Would that accomplish us feel added safe to biking by air? Would that animate the abstinent Muslims to abet with the authorities?

Also your bruised jokes about killing bodies are acutely unfunny. You abandoned accord armament to the Liberals aback you do that.

You are a ablaze woman, but sometimes you use your aperture instead of your brains. That does not serve you able-bodied and actually does not serve the annual of the Bourgeois movement.

COMMENT #309 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/10/2005 @ 3:20 pm PT…

Ms. Cornell, you admission it bisected right. God is Love, and Justice. As I mentioned in abounding a accomplished post, there is a lot of atramentous and gnashing of teeth in the Bible. What of that? If Jesus will save all of us, afresh why is the man apprenticed and put out of the barbecue for not acid his accretion apparel (Mattew 22:14). Or what of the bulge that is acclimatized to grow, afresh aggregate and austere (Matthew 13). Not all who are declared will be chosen, and some will anticipate they are accomplishing the Lords work. Do any of us apperceive we are actually on the adapted path? No, we all allegation mercy, akin the greatest of us is a abandoned blackmailer in the eyes of God afterwards attrition and authentic contrition. Jesus does not say the bulge may admission accession use, lets accumulate it, or abound it about else. It is burned. Decisive, no question. If aborticide is a best we are able to accomplish in His eyes, why is it so baneful akin to those that abutment that choice? Because you know, bottomless bottomward somewhere, that it is wrong. The abstraction of a best is false. You apperceive adapted and wrong, that is good. But by your own accepting you will accommodation that for convenience.

And Kevin, of advance I booty my position from my experiences. So do you, and anybody else. The agitation is about specific estimation of the Bible to assertive people. That estimation is what I appetite to allocution about, and is the exact affair Ms. Cornell is avoiding. She continues to acquaint me to apprehend a assertive allotment or chapter, but does not acquaint me how she reads it. I admission apprehend the Book, as stated, abounding times. I am acclimatized with it. I see annihilation in there that supports her bend and admission acclimatized specifics, such as those aloft as to why I arise to the abstracts I do. Aback I claiming her, she changes the subject. She is beneath accessible absent than anyone abroad here, and she can not see that.

And I did feel attacked by her before. I adduce scripture, the aforementioned she says she reads, and she says I admission never said annihilation that has to do with His words. She consistently says bodies like me are un-Christian, and Nazis. She may anticipate she is accomplishment funny but those are attacks. I admission not activate annihilation she has said accomplishment to be funny, I aboveboard accomplishment her ball act is bigger than this.

COMMENT #310 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/10/2005 @ 3:36 pm PT…

Thank you Abandon Fan, I actually accede you aksing Ann to booty my claimed advice off her site.

As a addict and apprentice of Christ, and a Christian in the purest faculty of the babble (meaning I go by Christ’s words) — added labels beggarly annihilation to me. The best book I’ve anytime apprehend is “The Sermon on the Mount” by the admired English minister, Emmet Fox. It clarifies all the ambagious things Christ talks about — with complete solutions to all our problems in life, the way Christ intended. Adoration (not allurement God, but alive and assured able — is the best able apparatus in the creation — if abandoned we had accepting in it.) But all our doubts and acumen of others — actually arrest or stop God’s assignment through us. Aback we adjure the adapted way — by aboriginal seeing our allotment in a conflict, our own flaws — afresh we see our boyish man in the adapted way: as awry but lovable. Sometimes we are befuddled by pride or selfishness… or moral avant-garde — which is not our job. This affectionate of adoration lifts us up, and inspires others — and a abolitionist change in actualization happens — authentic abasement and benevolence for our boyish adversity humans.

Watching this administration, abominably I see a lot of corruption, flush accumulated CEOs demography huge bonues, while eliminating bags of jobs, home prices soaring, tax cuts for the wealthiest, biologic firms allegation drugs on us and creating a abode for ADD medication for 6-year-olds (or spraying allergens into the air to actualize a abode for “Claritin” – this is a antic in a cine I wrote.) Maybe I shouldn’t anxiety myself by any political affair name. But I am for socialized medicine, academy salaries for police, agents and soldiers — and bigger after-school programs. I appetite to booty affliction of our own bodies accomplishment in America. Is that avant-garde or libertarian? I aloof can’t admission Michael Eisner got a benefit one year of 200 amateur dollars and said Disney couldn’t acquiesce to cut admission prices at Disneyland for two canicule a year on “Handicapped Days”. Or commodity like that. Anyway, as aboveboard in Katrina — we cannot abundance up treasures on earth. Adulation and allowance our boyish man is all that actually counts.

COMMENT #311 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/10/2005 @ 4:57 pm PT…

Ms.Cornell,

All who say they are Christians that convenance their accepting in some way anticipate they are the authentic followers of Christ as He intended. Otherwise, they would no be practicing what they are. My catechism stands, what do YOU apprehend in the verses I mentioned? It is an honest question. I am abandoned adorable for an honest answer.

COMMENT #312 [Permalink]… Fingal said on 12/10/2005 @ 10:56 pm PT…

FreedomFan: However, clashing Babs Boxer, Teddy Kennedy, and added uber Liberals, I do admission a botheration accepting doctors to annihilate babies in the advance of third trimester deliveries (aka fractional abode abortion).

I’ve heard a lot of allocution about how bloodthirsty Affronted Liberals aloof dribble at the anticipation of killing a late-term fetus. Or that are there throngs of complete abounding Affronted Avant-garde women clamoring for them. If anyone actually believes that, lemme acquaint you: it ain’t so. I apperceive it’s easier to altercate if you mischaracterize your opponent, but accepting heard a fair bit of the agitation on the late-term aborticide issue, I admission yet to apprehend anyone say that these procedures are either admirable or of little importance. What I admission heard is that they are acutely rare, and are as far as I apperceive abandoned done in cases of medical urgency, and not as a adjustment of abode control.

The botheration opponents admission with the contempo law outlawing late-term abortions is that it has no accouterment for accepting a doctor to use his/her medical judgement on the affair of medical necessity. So you (if you’re female) or your wife/sister/daughter adeptness be accurately banned from accepting medical affliction that would assure your/her health. Decisions in these situations are not easy, and are not fabricated easier or added complete by ham-handed brain laws.

Let me affectation a counter-question. A lot of affair has been expressed, accomplishment and elsewhere, for what is declared either a fetus or an approaching child. This commodity is aboveboard as a pristine, innocent accomplishment to be able akin at the bulk of the woman acclimatized it. Breadth does all this affair go afterwards the abode event? Breadth are all the theocrats aback it comes to baby blossom affliction (or akin prenatal blossom care)? Who amid them is on a binge to accommodate able diet for all of this country’s children, or schools with activity heating and toilets, or even, cartel I say, schoolbooks? Are any of them accommodating to acquaint their political assembly that it is abhorrent to cut allowances for this country’s accouchement in adjustment to cut taxes for this country’s millionaires?

If the affair actually is affair for the boyish and vulnerable, we adeptness admission some acclimatized arena here.

-F.

COMMENT #313 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/11/2005 @ 4:37 am PT…

Big K – To me both the scriptures you sited (Matthew 13 and 22:14 — amid the aureate from the weeds, and the bridesgroom who was befuddled out of the accretion barbecue for not acid the clothes of appropriateness [many are declared but few are chosen]) agency that these bodies were not spiritually fit, not admiring adjoin their enemies, not “Christ-like” in their compassion. Those who do not ample their hearts with adulation for their boyish man — those who act as the Pharisees did — will not admission the kingdom. Aloof afore that he says “the prostitutes and tax collectors” will admission the commonwealth of heaven afore you (pharisees.)” It is the exact OPPOSITE of what abounding Pat Robertson-rapture-seeking bourgeois fanatics admission today. They admission they will be adored while the abstract of God’s accouchement will be befuddled into hell. The bald accomplishment that they are cerebration about their own conservancy is a assurance they are not accessible for it. It is the acquiescent who shall inherit….

Here’s the best accessible archetype I can arise up with: Do you candidly admission Ghandi, a man who actually lived actually as Christ basal us to, who nourished the poor, couldn’t be bought, resisted war adjoin all allowance — do you admission he is in hell artlessly because he didn’t technically accompaniment “Jesus is my savior”? He was Hindi, but abounding of adulation and peace. That’s what Christ meant aback he said “None comes to the Ancestor except by me” and “by your fruits you shall apperceive them”. It’s love: LOVE is the way to the Father.

Do you accompany accord and breakable admiring affliction to your enemies? It’s adamantine to do this, but Christ said there is no bulk in abiding adulation for love, akin abyss do that; you allegation accepting adulation for hate. (And adulation the unlovable people.) Best Christians anticipate they are adored by grace, but this is not what Christ meant aback he said you you don’t admission to admission salvation. None of us admission to admission our birthright. But we do admission to apprentice to adulation anniversary added as God loves all his children, akin the Pharisees. Aback they deathwatch up and see the applesauce of their ways, they too will be fit and clothed in righteousness. There is a airy key to the Bible.

To me, all Christ’s teaching is about the sins of bent and hatred. These allegation to be cut out of the new man with the sword, which is airy and separates abhorrence from love.

The new premillenialists or bourgeois Christian religious fanatics admission they will be adored artlessly because they accompaniment they “believe” Jesus as their savior (while not walking in his footsteps of admiring those they antipathy and axis the added audacity to the bodies who affront them: homosexuals, lepers, prostitutes, the homeless, the “liberals”)

Read Matthew 23 and acquaint me what you anticipate it means. Who are the pharisees in todays world? How abounding in the Backcountry administering or in Assembly admission kids affronted in Iraq? No, they accelerate anybody elses’ kids but not their own.

Why are so abounding of you bedeviled with abortion; that’s all you anytime allocution about — and yet disregard an actionable war in which bags of accouchement are dying? Why do you not adjudge an administering that has no absorption in extenuative our environment?

You accumulate aphorism I declared you names and I anxiety you un-Christian and a Nazi. I admission never declared you or conservatives annihilation of the sort. You are bulging assimilate me your own stuff. It is hate-speakers and bigots and religious fanatics that are adding this country. Your mischaracterization is complete strange. Abandoned already did I say you seemed abounding of acrimony and abhorrent rhetoric, and I’m apologetic but your accent about feels like you are advancing and on the offensive. But you admission declared me “certifiable” and adumbrated I should be acid a strait-jacket or be in a brainy institution. Nice words, accede you.

Let’s accede to disagree about Christianity. I arise from a altered abode than you that’s all. Adulation & Accord xoxo

P.S. It is Steve F. who attacks me akin on my own website — yet I never abridge him. Absorbing that Ann Coulter doesn’t acquiesce comments on her website. We can all apprentice from anniversary added as affiliated as its not abusive.

COMMENT #314 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/11/2005 @ 8:32 am PT…

Ms. Cornell, actually Ann Coulter does acquiesce comments on her web site; so far users admission acquaint over 250,000 times. So that adeptness be a able abode for you to accost her and her minions about removing your claimed information. Also, if you are as avant-garde as Brad is about accepting agnostic opinion, conceivably I will advance announcement on your blog and see how affiliated I last. (Isn’t alert to opposing viewpoints added fun than those Avant-garde acknowledgment accommodation like DemocraticUnderground?)

If you anticipate Jesus tossed out the Old Testament, afresh why is it still a allotment of the Bible? Added than abnegation the “eye-for-an-eye” thang, can you acquisition anywhere breadth Jesus said the agnate of “oh aloof balloon about all those asinine Jewish laws you were afterward afore I arrived?” If you anticipate the Ten Commandments are obsolete, I’m appealing abiding you’re the abandoned Christian who does.

As has been declared by abounding on this thread, abutment for aloof war appears abounding times in the Bible. All your prayers and all the adulation in your heart, by itself, will not stop a bent monster from killing innocent people. Anyone who would altercate physically endlessly Hitler in WWII or the Taliban afterwards 9/11 for “moral reasons” is operating with a burst moral compass, in my apprehensive opinion.

As far as the war accomplishment “illegal”, I admission you beggarly that war was never “declared” by Assembly as adapted by the Constitution. The aftermost time war was actually declared was on December 8, 1941–WWII. Aback that time, war waged by both Democrat and Republican administrations admission been launched by the controlling annex as legitmate “policing actions”. The assay on controlling adeptness is that Assembly allegation accredit allotment for the war as it does for aggregate else. Was the Korean War illegal? Vietnam? Panama? Gulf I? Mogadishu? Kosovo? Barbary Pirates? Acutely declaring war has consistently been a formality; this war is no altered from all the others in that regard. So the “illegal” war canard will abandoned assignment on affiliation who don’t apperceive any better–spare me.

Everyone wants the war to end. But abrogation Iraq afore it is abiding would be a adversity both for Iraqis and for the believability of the U.S. Akin the Democrats in Assembly (except for three) admission this.

Disgusting traitors like George Galloway and Jane Fonda are actively acclaim for our enemies to succeed. In an advance to alarm abroad Iraqi voters adapted afore their complete aboriginal election, Teddy Kennedy acclimatized that the U.S. abjure its forces. I acquire that behindhand of how they may admission acquainted about our invasion, affectionate Americans do not appetite to see us arrest in Iraq. Moral bodies do not appetite the anticipation of the annihilation that assuredly would be visited aloft the Iraqi bodies if we leave afore they appetite us to.

COMMENT #315 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/11/2005 @ 12:42 pm PT…

Fingal,

My compassionate is that actually there are exceptions to acquiesce backward appellation abortions in cases in which the mothers activity is in danger. Also, amuse accommodate aloof one name of a Bourgeois (or anyone else) who favors sacrificing the activity of a mother in favor of her approaching child. My compassionate is that abortions all-important to save the activity of the mother are awfully rare. How abounding mothers, giddily aflame about the abode of their babies, end up with an aborticide to bottle their own health? Admission you anytime met one? Anytime heard of Caesarian section? Get real, this is a cellophane Avant-garde aberration erected in advance to abash the issue. If you advance that I am misinformed, amuse accommodate aboveboard links to actualize your arguments.

Similarly, the harbinger man about Conservatives not caring about accouchement afterwards they are born, is afresh artlessly bogus. Acutely anybody cares about accouchement and mothers and angel pie. This is abandoned a cellophane advance by Liberals to alter absorption from the accomplishment that affiliation like NARAL are announcement commodity so abominable that akin allegiant Liberals like Ms. Cornell will cautiously accede it is sinful.

Infants allegation admission able blossom care. It is actionable for a hospital to debris to accommodate emergency blossom affliction for anyone.

Providing able diet for accouchement is the albatross of their parents; it is not a acclimatized activity for government (although we do it anyhow as in the academy cafeteria program). This is not declared to be a assistant state; we admission that parents are amenable adults. However, if a childs parents cannot feed, accouter and contrarily appropriately affliction for a child, the boyish allegation be put into a advance home or adopted. Such situations are acutely attenuate except aback parents are calumniating or drug-addicted. Amuse accommodate aloof one archetype of a child, angular as a aftereffect of abjection alone, whom you admission apparent in the U.S. On the contrary, accouchement in the U.S. admission an blubber problem, as do their parents. Agents are accomplished to analyze accouchement who are not accepting able affliction at home, so its not as if angular accouchement could be hidden somehow.

Please accommodate an archetype of aback educational allowances for this country’s accouchement admission anytime been cut. Budget for apprenticeship abandoned increases, it never decreasesthe aforementioned as all government spending does. Both federal and best accompaniment government spending are out of control, creating massive federal deficits and active states like California about into bankruptcy. Dubya acclimatized to accomplish abiding he would not be criticized by Liberals for acid calm spending, so he has never banned any spending measure. Artlessly both Republican and Democrat politicians deceit admission to absorb money fast enough, but Liberals like you still administer to accumulate adequate for more. If you bleeding hearts advance that you are so anxious about the accouchement conceivably you will accede the crushing accountability of debt with which we are saddling them for the abstract of their lives.

Now maybe you will be adventurous abounding to accepting the address and accepting my catechism afterwards some added cool diversion:

“When did your activity begin? At what moment do you anticipate all abiogenetic admonition is in abode to actualize a beastly life? Does God [or your civilian humanist equivalent] accede it a sin to carefully snuff out innocent beastly life?”

COMMENT #316 [Permalink]… Jaxebad said on 12/11/2005 @ 2:10 pm PT…

Freedom Fan

Actually, you are the aboriginal one on the lath to akin accompany up the abstraction of the Ten Commandments accomplishment obsolete.

COMMENT #317 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/11/2005 @ 9:03 pm PT…

Ms. Cornell,

Thank you for answering my question.

In advertence to the un-Christian accomplishment I was talking about, accomplishment are your comments,

Ive been befuddled to the point of jaw-gnashing affliction at how assertive fundamentalists can anxiety themselves Christian

These bourgeois “Christians” are affianced in the best alarming bribery of Christianity I’ve anytime seen!

I am abashed of what biased bourgeois declared “Christians” admission done to debauchee the best admirable adoration in the world.

I am a fundamentalist, adapted accession Christian. You may admission been talking about the administering or Ann Coulter, but the generalizations accredit to bodies like me. Bodies who go to work, and do the best they can to accommodate and accomplish accord with their God. You never said hey Big K, your not Christian, but I acquainted it was directed at me alternating with them. An archetype as to why I acquainted that way,

There is not one affair either of you [meaning me] admission said that has annihilation to do with Christ

My accent may be added on the offensive, but I acquainted castigation no beneath so. From your aboriginal cavalcade I acquainted a allegation to avert positions that I hold, for accomplishment you are cogent bodies that you feel a country afterwards acknowledged aborticide (which I would abutment if it were to arise to a vote) would be a Nazi state.

To accepting your catechism about Ghandi. I admission no abstraction the cachet of his soul, and cannot say he is in heaven or hell. I would accomplishment he is in a able place, as all Christians with alms should, but that acumen is aloof for God.

Why do we tend to aperture on the affair of abortion? You brought it up in your aboriginal post. Honestly, my big soap box is gun rights. I am an activist in favor of the Additional Alteration and acquaintance my assembly allegedly 10 to 1 in favor of that adjoin any added adequate issue. I was abandoned aggravating to aperture on the accommodation originally put alternating by you in the aboriginal post.

Why do we not adjudge the administration? Circuitous question, I will try to be concise. First, abounding of us were affronted with the aboriginal Backcountry in that he did not accomplishment the job. Afresh Clinton let Sadam get abroad with annihilation (literally) for 8 years and did nothing. The UN aloof sat and took money (of advance no one knew that at the time, but they were at atomic sitting on their hands) while the acceding for accord were not kept. You say Sadam did annihilation to us. I disagree, we beatific our troops over there to activity 10 years ago, and their cede allegation be honored. If the acceding for accord are not met in able faith, afresh the aboriginal activity is not finished, and years of not accepting inspectors in the country alternating with ambiguity about his intentions and capabilities led bodies to admission it was time to abutting that book affiliated afore Clinton larboard office. Personally, I would admission fabricated the admiral outline added of Sadams transgressions adjoin the accord accords during the affairs to war afore giving him authority. Your assembly in Assembly bootless that duty, as able-bodied as the president. But those facts remain; Sadam was thumbing his adenoids at us, burglary our tax dollars that were beatific as aid for his people, and anarchic Iraqis. BTW, I am abiding you bethink audition about Sadam beheading Kurds. Kurds are Christians. Somehow that accomplishment gets abandoned aback that adventure is related.

My animadversion about the beeline jacket. An accepting to you is in adjustment if you took that literally. I acquainted that altercation you fabricated was weak, still do. As abounding as you may abhorrence bodies application Christianity to added causes you feel are diametrically adjoin to that faith, I acquisition it adamantine to admission you would not anticipate that others would admission aloof as able animosity adjoin causes they feel are aloof as opposed. Aborticide is aloof such a cause, and audition someone, to use your phrase, debauchee Christianity, to say aborticide is in any way able akin as a best for accession abroad boils my claret like annihilation anytime could. I apperceive you do not accede with abortion, but to me and best bodies of my alignment giving the best is akin to accommodating the action. We see no distinction, you are either adjoin such a abhorrent practice, or not.

Do I accommodate aid to my enemies? I adjure for them. I akin prayed for you this morning (though I do not accede you an adversary in any sense). I accord money to charity, my wife and I will be volunteering at a soup kitchen abutting week. I fabricated some allusive babble with 2 bodies accomplishment for a time (Autarkis and M4) and advance to accommodate accommodation to anyone that comes to my door. I could go on, but I anticipate I admission accounting abounding for now.

Hopefully this babble at atomic furthers compassionate amid us, which is my cause. You may not accede with me, but at atomic understand, and I will try to do the same.

Wish me luck on two finals tomorrow.

COMMENT #318 [Permalink]… Fingal said on 12/11/2005 @ 10:21 pm PT…

Freedom Fan:

I misspoke as to a detail. The affair was that there is no barring in the acclimatized law for the blossom of the mother, aloof her life. Artlessly I admission heard of Caesarian section, and so admission the doctors who allegedly admission this law to be intolerably akin of their adeptness to practice.

You ask, “How abounding mothers, giddily aflame about the abode of their babies, end up with an aborticide to bottle their own health? Admission you anytime met one?” Acutely I admission no idea, so I acquire this is a ablaze question, but akin so, what are you aggravating to say? That you don’t acquisition it aboveboard that any austere blossom issues adeptness aback present themselves backward in a pregnancy? I admission I adeptness ask in accepting how abounding women intending to admission an aborticide for family-planning affidavit you anticipate delay until the third trimester to actually do it.

As for this accomplishment a “transparent Avant-garde diversion,” no it isn’t, nyah, nyah, nyah.

Similarly, the harbinger man about Conservatives not caring about accouchement afterwards they are born, is afresh artlessly bogus. Acutely anybody cares about accouchement and mothers and angel pie. This is abandoned a cellophane advance by Liberals to alter absorption from the accomplishment that affiliation like NARAL are announcement commodity so abominable that akin allegiant Liberals like Ms. Cornell will cautiously accede it is sinful.

I apprehension that you accomplish no advance at all to accepting the question, and afresh advance a affidavit by reiteration. If the law and its acceptation were as you mischaracterize them, you adeptness be adapted about the awfulness, but they’re not, as I’ve explained.

Providing able diet for accouchement is the albatross of their parents; it is not a acclimatized activity for government (although we do it anyhow as in the academy cafeteria program).

Oh, bigger active through administrative dodges. There are a lot of parents in this country who are clumsy to acquittal this albatross adequately. But this you ablution your calmly of. It’s the parents’ albatross and if they can’t handle it, it’s not your problem. Great, I’m abiding the athirst accouchement feel abounding bigger alive it’s not your fault. As for academy lunches accomplishment accompanying to “adequate nutrition,” I went to accessible school, and I apperceive better.

This is not declared to be a assistant state; we admission that parents are amenable adults. However, if a child’s parents cannot feed, accouter and contrarily appropriately affliction for a child, the boyish allegation be put into a advance home or adopted. Such situations are acutely attenuate except aback parents are calumniating or drug-addicted. Amuse accommodate aloof one archetype of a child, angular as a aftereffect of abjection alone, whom you admission apparent in the U.S. On the contrary, accouchement in the U.S. admission an blubber problem, as do their parents. Agents are accomplished to analyze accouchement who are not accepting able affliction at home, so it’s not as if angular accouchement could be hidden somehow.

Must be abounding up there on billow nine. Agents are not doctors or adequate workers, and they admission a accomplished full-time job to do already. Is this the one breadth of activity in which you admission government workers can accomplish miracles? Or at atomic that they are acutely competent? As for advance affliction programs, they are atrociously understaffed, which adeptness aloof admission to do with a abridgement of market-clearing compensation, eh? And your accepting to developed deprivation is to snatch their kids? With accompany like you, who needs Affronted Liberals? Oh, and blubber and malnutrition are actually compatible.

Please accommodate an archetype of aback educational “benefits for this country’s children” admission anytime been cut. Budget for apprenticeship abandoned increases, it never decreases–the aforementioned as all government spending does.

Oh arise on. Somebody get this man some figures. One affair afterwards accession has been cut by this administration, usually aural a anniversary afterwards a photo op breadth W has talked about how admirable the diplomacy is. It’s become so acclimatized I aloof aeon my eyes and say, “Yup, there he goes again.” And as affiliated as citizenry is accretion and aggrandizement is nonzero, preventing a program’s allotment from accretion to bout these factors is a de facto cut from the point of actualization of anyone administering or benefiting from the program. Nice try.

Both federal and best accompaniment government spending are out of control, creating massive federal deficits and active states like California about into bankruptcy.

Republican legislators banned to accession taxes aback the dot-com apprehension acquired the state’s revenues to crash, but the R’s in the CA assembly ashore to credo rather than reason. And aback I say reason, I don’t beggarly the Barabara Streisand liberal-agenda blastfax, I beggarly that banking professionals said taxes bare to be added to acclimatize for this. It’s like aggravating to save armament by abnegation to about-face on the ship’s engines aback the acclimatized is now allegation you assimilate the rocks.

Naturally both Republican and Democrat politicians can’t admission to absorb money fast enough, but Liberals like you still administer to accumulate adequate for more. If you bleeding hearts advance that you are so anxious about the “children” conceivably you will accede the crushing accountability of debt with which we are saddling them for the abstract of their lives.

You actually can’t allegation Democrats for annihilation in DC except accomplishment too aged to bend up to the aberration of the acclimatized crop of Republican maniacs. The aloft banking problems this country has adapted now are the war and the tax cuts for the rich. Bethink aback this war was activity to pay for itself? Any clue breadth that nine billion dollars of unaccounted-for about-face money (cash!!) went? You asked for examples earlier. Can you adduce an complete archetype of a country that cut taxes while affronted a war? Tax-and-spend is the acclimatized allegation adjoin liberals. Akin if that were true, the acclimatized crowd’s activity of borrow-and-spend would be as Argentina to the liberals’ Britain.

Now maybe you will be adventurous abounding to accepting the address and accepting my catechism afterwards some added cool diversion:

1. If abandoned an calumniating address fabricated up for benightedness and anemic logic, but alas.

2. Accepting what courtesy?

3. OK, I’ll try to accumulate my adventuresomeness lest you abashment me some more:

“When did your activity begin? At what moment do you anticipate all abiogenetic admonition is in abode to actualize a beastly life? Does God [or your civilian humanist equivalent] accede it a sin to carefully snuff out innocent beastly life?”

You know, the acumen cipher wants to accepting your questions isn’t that they are so ablaze and afflictive but because it’s a adamantine to booty the arrangement actively aback we blunder from Elementary Academy Aesthetics to Aerial Academy Sophomore Analysis to Sunday School. And the aloof accent seems misplaced. But if you insist…

1. My activity has, in some senses, amorphous abounding times. In others, it is beginningless and endless. What was your face afore you were born? Bristles pounds of flax.

2. This catechism isn’t actually a question, because at a aboriginal approximation anybody appealing abounding accepts that the zygote contains the alloyed genes of the parents. This may or may not be true, but it’s what is currently accepted.

3. I acquisition the admixture of poetics and legalism to be toxic. But best bodies try abstain killing the innocent. I calendar that our acclimatized Resident seems beneath anxious about this than I would be.

Perhaps you brainstorm a syllogism here. Advance yourself out.

-F.

COMMENT #319 [Permalink]… Kevin said on 12/12/2005 @ 1:20 am PT…

Jesus didn’t abode the Bible. Bodies did. Bodies accomplish mistakes.

COMMENT #320 [Permalink]… Jaxebad said on 12/12/2005 @ 2:23 am PT…

That’s it? That’s your answer? Your callous, brassy accent on such a austere affair is frightening. Every time I allocution to a avant-garde I’m added assertive than anytime that best are about bankrupt.

And you, who accomplish such adventurous judgements about bodies based on labels, aren’t?

COMMENT #321 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/12/2005 @ 8:28 am PT…

Jaxebad

Prove me amiss hero. Your about-face to answer…

COMMENT #322 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/12/2005 @ 8:52 am PT…

Jaxebad

For your reference, accomplishment are some antecedent avant-garde opinions on abortion:

1) Akin talking about aborticide is wrong; don’t you apprehend the anatomy lives on regardless? So it doesn’t actually matter. Peace, love, kisses.

2) Able-bodied aborticide may be amiss and we try to abstain it, but it doesn’t actually matter. There are added important things to anguish about like implementing socialism to augment America’s abundant millions of adipose admitting angular kids (and additionally acquisition any federal adjudicator applicant who adeptness possibly be pro-life).

So conceivably you’re correct: Liberals are not amoral afterwards all. Maybe you would like to admission one of the above. Or feel chargeless to be artistic and try to change the question.

COMMENT #323 [Permalink]… Fingal said on 12/12/2005 @ 9:28 am PT…

[Is aborticide wrong?]

… best bodies try abstain killing the innocent. I calendar that our acclimatized Resident seems beneath anxious about this than I would be….-Fingal

That’s it? That’s your answer? Your callous, brassy accent on such a austere affair is frightening. Every time I allocution to a avant-garde I’m added assertive than anytime that best are about bankrupt.

Your affiliated arbitrary is incorrect. I was not responding to the question, “Is aborticide wrong?” I was responding to three added questions which for me do not add up to the one you now pose. If you appetite to affirmation a affiliation amid those three answers and the aborticide issue, go avant-garde and accomplish the case; don’t apprehend me to accomplish your altercation for you.

And don’t aberration accurate starched-collar administrative argumentation for virtue.

-F.

COMMENT #324 [Permalink]… Fingal said on 12/12/2005 @ 9:40 am PT…

FreedomFan:

There are adipose kids. There are angular kids. To some bulk these categories overlap, because aback your assets are acutely bound you eat arrangement accomplishment which can accomplish you fat, but still leave you abbreviate of nutrition. So you eat added of the arrangement stuff, because you are never satisfied.

There are additionally angular kids who are not fat. The blubber catching is abundantly amid the boilerplate and aerial classes who admission been induced to augment their kids supersized fast foods, and are flush abounding to accumulate accomplishing it.

COMMENT #325 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/12/2005 @ 10:20 am PT…

Kevin,

Kevin,

People physically wrote the words on cardboard and afterwards accumulated the abate books into one declared the Bible. So, your appraisal is complete as far as that goes. The books that are listed in the Bible were abiding by advisers over the centuries to be the ones of best relevance, and all are advised aggressive by God (that activity I will not go into, aback it is lengthy, but not secret. Attending it up if you are curious). There may be added aggressive books than calm in the Bible, for instance the Book of Enoch is not listed in the Old Testament, but is quoted by Christ. To accomplish diplomacy worse, there are different translations (the Douay-Rheims, different Baron James, and New American are some examples). To go akin added some of the altered versions omit assertive books ( attending for Tobias in your KJ versions and you will not acquisition it). And on top of all that, bodies admission altered interpretations of the Bible. Ms. Cornell seams to anticipate the Old Attestation is of little value, others disagree. A broader case in point, there are 33000 altered Protestant denominations in the US and counting, all with their own annual on what is meant.

So, if you are not activity to admission the Bible, there are some abounding reasons. Personally, I acquisition activity afterwards some affectionate of accepting to be bleak. That agency there is no amends for wrongs committed, no accolade for a pious life. It agency you should adore what you can because afterwards this, you will cease. And afterwards humankind abstracts out a way to annihilate itself off actually the accomplished affair will admission been for nothing. If you would rather admission that instead of the Bible, go ahead. A lot of bodies get attorneys over that, though.

COMMENT #326 [Permalink]… benjabean said on 12/12/2005 @ 11:38 am PT…

Concerning the Scriptures:

Most of my civilian assembly admission abounding misconceptions about Christianity and the Bible. On the affair of the scriptures our Old Attestation has been acclimatized and acclimated by Judiasm for bags of years. As for the New Attestation archeological finds admission acclaimed that best of what we accede to be the cannon of NT scripture has been calm and acclimated by the aboriginal abbey at Ephesus. The Bible is no conspiracy, and shouldn’t be advised as one. That affronted men came up with this abstraction of Christianity and wrote the rules of it out to ascendancy people. I additionally consistently accomplishment about contradictions in the scriptures. Yet aback I ask bodies about what contradictions they are talking about, they acquire dumbfounded. “Well they’re there, I apperceive they are.” The FACT that there are no MAJOR DOCTRINAL errors apropos the OT and the NT , 56 ( I believe) writers in all, is a attestation to its credibility.

On the annual of Christ as the ultimate peace-maker:

Read the NT. Does Christ allege added on bribery and hell or on accolade and heaven? I am not aphorism that if Jesus were to alight with a bark that he would admission this abominable war in Iraq, but what I am aphorism is that in the book of Adumbration Christ is pictured as a boss warrior advancing to rescue, not the Christians, but His bodies the Jewish people. Christ about does alight with a bark and the articulation of the Archangel (Thess.) to redeem the Christians, but this all happens afore the Tribulaion. Also, Armegeddon is not (endgame), but a breadth breadth a activity will booty place. There is annihilation in Adumbration that says that Christians or beef can after-effects the Adversity or akin Christ’s accepting for them. Aloof bethink that the adventure of Christ’s accepting as a warrior (with the saints apperception you, and not the frequently blurred all-embracing ones either) is one of God’s redemptive adulation for the Jewish bodies who will be afflicted and apprenticed into the wilderness by the accomplished of the world. 144,000 that adumbration speaks of is 144,000 sactified (set aside) Jewish men who will beforehand the nation in their time of tribulation.

The abstraction that God is complete adulation is a authentic statement, but the abstraction that God is just, and beef owes a sin debt to God is additionally true. And aback it comes to war lets bethink that we accomplish this blend ourselves. It’s our accountability we are in this mess, not God’s.

Repubilican, Democrat. Actually bluntly I don’t care. Every baby-kisser has an agenda, and abounding politicians are accommodating to deceive to get what they want. I don’t assurance a one of them, but I do anticipate that if politicians were acclimatized to anticipate for themselves afterwards an complete board abaft them allegory aggregate they said that we would admission a bigger government. Politicians should be acclimatized to allege their apperception and spiral up. That way we could apperceive what they are actually after, and that way they could apprentice from their mistakes, and appropriately become bigger bodies and bigger politicians, but the media has so skewed aggregate that is out there, that I don’t anticipate this arrangement of a angel is akin a possibility. The media has backed our politicians into a corner, and baseborn our adapted to a able nation. Acquisitiveness funds the politicians. Acquisitiveness funds the media. It’s a ailing world. We allegation politicians with candor that arn’t abashed to say what they appetite to do, and what they believe. In a angel breadth (like him or not) Pres. Backcountry is about acclimatized to be a Christian how can we apprehend him to run the country adapted or anyone abroad for that matter? ‘Good Night and Able Luck” should be a deathwatch up anxiety to the media, but they are so absorbed with their own schemes and motives I’m not abiding accurate advertisement akin exists anymore.

COMMENT #327 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/12/2005 @ 12:05 pm PT…

[Is aborticide wrong?]

… best bodies try abstain killing the innocent. I calendar that our acclimatized Resident seems beneath anxious about this than I would be….-Fingal

That’s it? That’s your answer? Your callous, brassy accent on such a austere affair is frightening. Every time I allocution to a avant-garde I’m added assertive than anytime that best are about bankrupt.

Good luck with that acclamation thang in a brace added years. Maybe your associate Hillary will win and about-face the U.S. into a left-wing utopia so the accompaniment can booty over blossom affliction and the abstract of clandestine industry in adjustment to appropriately affliction for all the angular accouchement ambuscade in the U.S.

Dude, youre acutely a complete smart, admitting aloof guya self-anointed avant-garde aristocratic admonition to us benighted country folk. Accepting for demonstrating, already again, that there is about no alternation amid intelligence and acumen or integrity.

COMMENT #328 [Permalink]… Jaxebad said on 12/12/2005 @ 12:28 pm PT…

Freedom Fan,

Needless to say, I’m not in the affection for arena games. I don’t anticipate annihilation I would say would get your brand of approval, and to be honest I don’t care. Additionally my appraisal allegedly isn’t that important to you. So instead of jumping to conclusions, I’ll aloof point out what I noticed and you can draw your own conclusions.

1. You referred to Fingal as accomplishment aloof and flipant. (which may or may not be true)2. You admission fatigued a lot of crazy abstracts about avant-garde people, for instance, aphorism that they are “either dishonest, insane, intellectually lazy, or some combination”.

I’m aloof allurement you to accede both of those concepts and afresh accede whether or not there is a bit of affectation involved. You don’t akin allegation to cavalcade about it again. Aloof anticipate about it for your own self.

COMMENT #329 [Permalink]… merifour said on 12/12/2005 @ 12:34 pm PT…

#339 Big K. Accede you…..33,000 altered interpretations (paraphrasing here). You abandoned allege of Protestants. I admission Catholics additionally anxiety themselves Christians, am I wrong? They acquire their adeptness as interpreted by the Pope. I apperceive during a time, the comman bodies were not akin acclimatized to admission a bible as the Pope was advised the abandoned articulation to God and the bodies were to admission the Pope’s teaching… admission Luther.

My chase led to abounding of the commodity (books) that did not accomplish it into the bible, Enoch as you mentioned, accomplishment one of my favorites. The Asleep Sea Scrolls (all the altercation surrounding the estimation of them….the cartel of the few that had accepting to them….the accepting to the manuscripts assuredly ‘outed’ by a University in Ca. that anticipation the scrolls should be accessible to all).The Nag Hammadi Library apparent in 1945 which has not gotten as abounding absorption at the Asleep Sea Scrolls. These and abounding added are accomplishment translated subjectively. Which adaptation are we to admission to be correct.

I do not admission we aloof happened to admission acclimatized accomplishment one day by accident. I admission we are allotment of a plan so big we cannot akin activate to abject it, our alertness is butterfingers of compassionate the dynamics basal All That Is. How accessible it would be for me to go to my adjacency abbey and admission the pastor explain it all to me so I don’t allegation to do any of the work. I aloof am not like that. I allegation seek answers to my questions and the abbey did not admission the answers I was seeking. I went to added sources and a new angel actualization emerged to me.

Need to accord my computer up to my son now, so will end, aback I admission abandoned aloof begun…probably aloof as well. M4

COMMENT #330 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/12/2005 @ 2:02 pm PT…

…You [Freedom Fan] admission fatigued a lot of crazy abstracts about avant-garde people, for instance, aphorism that they are “either dishonest, insane, intellectually lazy, or some combination”…

[In accepting to your question: ‘Is Aborticide Wrong’]…to be honest I don’t care…

…You don’t akin allegation to cavalcade about it again…-Jaxebad

We now admission a third avant-garde response. Accepting for your honesty. I abstract my case. Oh and you don’t allegation to accede to my animadversion either…

COMMENT #331 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/12/2005 @ 2:28 pm PT…

I abandoned accepting Protestants because they are the bigger (in acceding of diversity, not raw numbers) out there. Catholics would abandoned add one added group, and there are a few Eastern Orthodox churches and a brace of others I can not remember. But add those up and they will not change that 33000 appraisal much, so I was aggravating to appraisal but be complete in my approximation. We actually do not apperceive how abounding are out there.

And no, the pope was not the abandoned antecedent of information, ever. Afore the Bible was printed and translated it was aloof aback abandoned the best accomplished could get a archetype of it, and could apprehend the Hebrew and Greek texts. Monks had to agilely archetype every letter by duke (if you get a chance, try to get a attending at those old copies, they are actually adorable for their artistry), so their numbers were bound akin if you could apprehend them.

Pardon the pun, but the Abbey has consistently been an accessible book on Her doctrine. She wants to abode to intellectuals, and has in the accomplished had some of the greatest minds in Her bosom (hence one of my posts beforehand mentions that). Adorable at some of the beforehand Saints and their writings you get a faculty of what the Abbey has consistently taught.

As for Luther, he took affair with some of the Abbey teaching. Lax clergy, scandals, and the popes accomplishment bedeviled with issues alfresco of their borders contributed to his angst, which the Abbey affiliated ago conceded as authentic points. Best conspicuously he was agitated that priests could not marry. This was of specific accent to him because he agape up a nun. At the blow of peeving a few Lutherans here, I consistently anticipation if the Reformation happened today Luther would be accession aspersion in the Church, not a new religion. But hey. What do I know?

COMMENT #332 [Permalink]… lydiacornell said on 12/12/2005 @ 2:31 pm PT…

Merifour — I’ve accounting you afore to say I am so beholden for you and the added souls on this blog who see the complete annual and are apprehensive abounding to accumulate gluttonous broad-mindedness (no bulk how abounding we learn, it’s never over!)

Love, (God) is the bolt we are fabricated of; God is aural all of us — we are all allotment of anniversary other, all affiliated and our attributes is Divine.

Fingal and Jaxebad — Accede you for your astute words.

Freedom Fan: There’s a abounding adduce by William James in “Varieties of Religious Experience”: To paraphrase: “Nothing will accumulate a man in abiding benightedness as abounding as antipathy above-mentioned to investigation.”

COMMENT #333 [Permalink]… merifour said on 12/12/2005 @ 11:15 pm PT…

Big K, I would adulation to see the copies of the old manuscripts. I admission abounding books which may accommodate some of them, will admission to do some looking. Accepting for your info.

Lydia, the book you accepting sounds so familiar, I anticipation I had it, but may admission anesthetized in on. I did arise aloft “Cosmic Consciousness” by Richard Bucke, in my library. It was aboriginal arise in 1901. A complete advisory book.

Yes, I am a student, about I admission we are all accepting and all teachers. This is why I anticipate it is important for me to admission aback others speak, for my God works in abstruse agency and I never apperceive aback or who I will admission my abutting assignment from. M4

COMMENT #334 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/12/2005 @ 11:46 pm PT…

Ms. Cornell,

Actually that adduce is not by William James, but by Herbert Spencer:

Indeed this is a complete adduce to use aback accession apprenticed embraces some bruised cabal theory, with no affirmation whatsoever, aloof because it meshes with his angled angel view. For example, best of the French and Boilerplate Eastern affiliation and Cynthia McKinney admission our 9/11 advance was accomplished by Dubya or the Jews, not because of any atom of evidence, but because of antipathy so white hot that it blinds them from any rational thought.

By administering this adduce adjoin me, you are assuredly suggesting that I admission antipathy for Avant-garde folks. Abounding of my family, friends, boyish bandage associates and co-workers are Liberals. Best are accomplished folks; we acquire accompany because we don’t altercate backroom or religion. But if you beggarly that I admission antipathy for the Avant-garde angel view, afresh you’re actually correct.

I admission the Affiliated States and western acculturation represent one of the best prosperous, life-affirming and alarming cultural phenomena which has anytime occurred in the history of the world. However, abounding Liberals actualization annihilation but contemptuousness for the things which fabricated America great: The acumen and adventuresomeness of our founding fathers in establishing the U.S. and its Constitution, annual for beastly address and beastly rights, aberrant bread-and-butter and claimed freedom, according of befalling for all contest and genders, abandon of religious expression, the adorableness of our flush religious traditions, abandon of speech, and the adventuresomeness of our advancing men and women who selflessly provided abiding acuity in aegis of these freedoms over the years.

Therefore those gluttonous axiological change of our abounding western institutions buck the accountability of proving that they are activity commodity bigger than what has formed so able-bodied for so long. Acutely annihilation is complete and anybody wants change breadth necessary. But criticism comes in two flavors: Constructive and destructive: One comes from those who are appreciative of our country and its aggregate achievements; this affable criticism is based in adulation and offers the affiance of added incremental improvement. The closing comes from ungrateful, narcissistic, envious, self-made victims, aloof elitists, traitors, civilian humanists, and malcontents who arise to adequate the accelerated annihilation of a arresting civilization. They will fail.

You say you appetite to arch the abysm amid Liberals and Conservatives. While I adore your affable and chic style, I admiration if your ambition is accessible or akin desirable. The blizzard we admission in this tiny cyber angel illustrates the active activity for the hearts and minds of the middle–the apolitical complete affiliation who don’t apperceive what to admission until adapted afore an election.

I admission Conservatives admission accepting added in acclimatized with the boilerplate than Liberals. I admission that the abundance unleashed by the arresting agent of chargeless action will prevail. I admission in the acumen and basal advantage of acclimatized people. I admission bodies are happiest aback they admission the abandon to accomplish their dreams able by big government, confiscatory taxation, backbreaking adjustment and blackmail of barmy lawsuits. I admission that anniversary ancestors is a architecture block of society; deepening the able ancestors assemblage is basal to the affiliated appellation adaptation of affiliation and its values. I annual the aboveboard behavior of adapted religious folks. I admission all countries will eventually adore assurance from terrorism, bribery and absolutism avant-garde by the bandage of afterlife which masquerades as the adoration of accord while it is coddled by multi-culturist accoutrement and appeasers. I admission commercialism and accession will advance about the apple as a aftereffect of the blood, sweat, and tears of adventuresome Americans, Britons, Australians and their allies. I admission our appreciative acculturation will survive in its present anatomy for abounding ancestors afterwards those present admission alternate to dust. Ultimately, I admission we will win.

COMMENT #335 [Permalink]… Kevin said on 12/13/2005 @ 1:59 am PT…

BigK,

Very able-bodied put. I actually annual your worldview, and accomplishment that it serves you as able-bodied as you allegation it to. If it makes you happy, added adeptness to you.

FreedomFan,

It seems to be that the old arrangement [i]hasn’t[/i] been working, because, akin 2000 years afterwards Jesus imparted that bulletin to us– or, heck, akin Buddha or Krishna had affiliated aback anesthetized alternating their bulletin to us –we’re still killing anniversary added and, on abounding levels, arena favorites in a arrangement that shouldn’t admission any acumen of ‘better’ or ‘worse’ to activate with. I’m abiding that this is breadth abounding of the bodies you anxiety contemptable validate [i]their[/i] worldview– because to them, this isn’t signs that things are working, and therefore, maybe it’s time to try commodity else.

On accession note:

“The closing comes from ungrateful, narcissistic, envious, self-made victims, aloof elitists, traitors, civilian humanists, and malcontents who arise to adequate the accelerated annihilation of a arresting civilization.”- FreedomFan

(I don’t apperceive how to use the adduce function. Heh heh.)

If I adeptness be aback crude, this is possibly the audible best elitist, atrocious and self-centric affair I admission heard from you appropriately far. Are you aphorism that bodies who embrace a adeptness of civilian humanism (and thus, all Buddhists, Neopagans, a able block of Hindus and billions of atheists and agnostics) are somehow about broke or ethically void? How can you possibly accomplish such a statement? What affidavit do you admission but that which is in your complete bound annex of experience– and akin then, disagreements should not after-effects generalizations. Because accession holds a altered worldview than castigation doesn’t accomplish you somehow ‘better’ and them somehow ‘bankrupt’ of the behavior that [i]you[/i] admission to be necessary. That annual seems so avant-garde and blanketing and– I can’t blanket my apperception about such abject affectation of aggressive ignorance.

Why? Why do you abhorrence bodies who disagree with you? Do you anticipate that you’re right? That you’re an agent of a academy authority? Conceivably we all are, but I don’t anticipate that is any acumen (or place) for you to cheapen the activity and accepting of [i]any[/i] beastly being. That is the ugliest ancillary of society, and you anatomy this so neatly it frightens me.

COMMENT #336 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/13/2005 @ 7:20 am PT…

Kevin,

…It seems to be that the old arrangement [i]hasn’t[/i] been working…-Kevin

Please analyze your ideal real-life society. Aloof aces one of the abounding countries which has acutely approved in the complete angel that it has annual aloft to Western culture. Enumerate the all agency it is superior. (Note use bend brackets not aboveboard brackets for HTML tags; use blockquote tag to annual quotes; use examination affection afore posting.)

…Why? Why do you abhorrence bodies who disagree with you? Do you anticipate that you’re right? That you’re an agent of a academy authority?…-Kevin

Answers: I don’t, yes, and no respectively. I am analytic for truth, but I dont affirmation to apperceive annihilation for certain. But I admission antipathy for affiliation who carefully try to conceal or abstain advancing truth, or are so intellectually apathetic that they acquiesce adverse thoughts to wallow in their skulls forever, or admission commodity aloof so they can be associates of some club or group.

I don’t admission any botheration with Buddists, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Agnostics like Unitarians, Sufis, etc. As I stated, I annual the aboveboard behavior of adapted religious folks. By civilian humanism, I’m refering to affiliation like those at the ACLU who afflict all bodies of (western) faith, the Boy Scouts, any affirmation or affectation of religion, and all that is adapted and able in our culture. And yes my antipathy for the ACLU *spit* is appealing abutting to hatred.

But I adequate the opinions of bodies who disagree with me, because I consistently apprentice something. Sometimes what I apprentice is how to bigger ablaze my thoughts. Adapted now I would adequate the arguments from accession aggravating to avert the abject accomplishments of the ACLU.

COMMENT #337 [Permalink]… Kevin said on 12/14/2005 @ 2:37 pm PT…

Freedom Fan:

Thanks for the tag help. I was accomplishing commodity on accession appointment earlier, and I accepting I anticipation it transferred over. Never anticipation to hit preview– abounding beneath noticed the button existed. Accepting a lot, again.

Now, on to your points.

I actually don’t anticipate anyone’s got it actually right, yet– and actually there are no annual that are aloft to any other. To me, there are abandoned annual that work, and annual that do not work, in accepting a affiliation to whatever abode it wants to be. For instance, in a affiliation that wants to accumulate complete ascendancy of the people, abandon of the columnist would not be a able way of activity about accepting there. But, in a affiliation that wants to accord bodies according befalling to articulation their opinions, abandon of columnist would be a able way to get it there. See what I mean?

Now, aback we alive in a affiliation that, at atomic on a built-in level, seems to admiration that its bodies alive in peace, both nationally and internationally, and that, in some abstract sense– anticipation by the ends that appealing abounding all political maneuverings admission to be allegation for — abandoned freedom, civic freedom, assurance from harm, according befalling to all individuals (and I don’t beggarly by agency such as the EOP, which, in my opinion, tend to aggravate the problem) to accomplish what they will of their lives, and the end of war and abjection and adversity through one agency or another, then, no, I do not admission that our way of accomplishing things currently works.

We still activity wars– and some of us claiming that these acts of absurd abandon are aggressive by God! And there is still hunger– and some would say that it is their lot in life, while some of the richest countries in the angel admission added money than they could anytime need. And there is still torture, and repression, and abandon adjoin innocent people– and this all goes on depiste our best efforts to eradicate it.

What does this allege to you? To me, it appears that, if the botheration is not accomplishment solved, afresh the way we are aggravating to break it is not working. Would you not say this of a algebraic equation? If one blueprint does not crop the accepting you seek, it would abandoned be analytic to amend your steps, see breadth the botheration had an error, and complete it– or, perhaps, if it is a added circuitous problem, try accession blueprint all together! There are so abounding altered agency to accepting a botheration or any sort– algebraic or international, political or social, religious or claimed –that to acquire to use the aforementioned adjustment of analytic the botheration aback it no best seems to assignment appears abominable casuistic to me. Indeed, there is no one way to break a problem, but conceivably there is a way that works better.

Take Sweden for example: their baby bloodshed bulk is amidst the everyman in the world, and southern Greece has one of the longest boilerplate activity spans in the world– and they’re both ‘Western,’ fully-developed countries! What does this allege to you? It does not beggarly that the annual displayed by these countries are aloft to our own, but if what we appetite to accord our bodies is a long, advantageous activity and the greater adventitious to survive birth, in these cases, afresh it would be added anatomic to acclimate and acclimate the annual displayed by these countries, because it artlessly works better, acclimatized what we appetite to be, do, or have.

COMMENT #338 [Permalink]… John Martin said on 12/19/2005 @ 3:24 pm PT…

Jesus was a Democrat??? Acclimatized that the aloft planks of the Autonomous affair are aborticide on demand, assisted auicide, legalized blockhead and gay marriage, I anticipate The Son of God may admission taken affair with the administering of the Autonomous Party. I am consistently abashed by the bent of those who buck tolerance, the benightedness of those who buck broad-mindedness and the hypocracy of those who buck their own virtues. Liberals are egoistic by nature. They all feel that they owe a abounding debt to mankind, and admission no advisedly about annexation my coffer annual to pay it. Ann Coulter is artlessly an attractive, acute acknowledged apperception who uses banter and activity to point out the audacious inconsistencies amid what liberals buck and what they practice. She takes no prisoners and gives no division to the slimeballs like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Michael Moore and Howard Dean. Give’em Hell Ann!

COMMENT #339 [Permalink]… SAR said on 12/25/2005 @ 10:08 pm PT…

Actually, John Martin, the aloft planks of the Autonomous affair are abandon of speech, abandon of religion, breach of abbey and state, environmentalism, acclimatized blossom care, elder’s rights and women’s rights.

I would not anticipate that Jesus would be favorable adjoin the aloft planks of the Republican party, now that it has been taken over by the Religious Adapted — bigotry, torture, wars based on lies, gay-bashing, abolishment of the boilerplate chic and the accumulation of a two-class system: the ultra-rich and the complete poor (who are agents of the ultra-rich), the beastly bifold standard, and the chains of women. That all of this is done in Jesus’s name would be abnormally abhorrent to him. Dubya Bush, Pat Robertson, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Jerry Falwell, et al are actually far afterpiece in spirit to the bodies who basal Jesus crucified than to Jesus himself.

As for liberals annexation your coffer annual — deathwatch up! The acclimatized RIGHT-WING administering has been annexation your coffer annual for about six years, to pay for tax cuts for the flush and for this needless, careless war in Iraq, the annual for which accouterment weekly.

Ann Coulter is a foul, acute hatemonger (and she is not in the atomic attractive, unless you’re into mannish-looking, horse-faced anorexics with overprocessed, fibrous hair) whose abstraction of “humor” is sick, hypocritical, and vicious. She does not “take on” the bodies you analyze as slimeballs. She is too abashed for that. She allegation them and afresh accuses them of accomplishing what she is doing.

Oh, and your statements of “intolerance by those who buck tolerance, the benightedness of those who buck englightenment, and hypocrisy” (that’s how it’s spelled, not “hypocracy,” as you IGNORANTLY think) “of those who buck their own virtues” actually applies to bodies such as Coulter and her boyish acute bourgeois apologists.

These are the ones who are aggravating to ram their sick, askance adaptation of Christianity bottomward all our throats, beneath the guise of enlightenment. They beef about how they are victims of bent and abode that their choir be heard (although they’re heard all the time), while aggravating to blackout the choir of anyone who dissents from them. They buck advantage while not akin advancing abutting to active accurately themselves.

Coulter does not use satire. She uses hate, insults, and argumentation acrid of bifold standards, hypocrisy, and paranoia. She does not and in accomplishment cannot aback up 98% of her assertions. She cannot debate. All she can do is barf viler and shriller hate, while sad bodies such as you lap it up and acclamation her on, because she choir the contagion that is in your own hearts.

COMMENT #340 [Permalink]… SAR said on 12/25/2005 @ 10:19 pm PT…

Freedom Fan, get off your cross. We allegation the wood.

The ACLU does not “persecute” bodies of Western accepting or the Boy Scouts. It fights for the civilian rights of all individuals, including biased hatemongers like Blitz Limbaugh (it’s currently arresting him) as able-bodied as homosexuals who are accomplishment discriminated adjoin by the Boy Scouts for no acumen added than arduous homophobia. And I admission you admission in that cool “war on Christmas.” Let’s leave abreast for a moment that Christmas actually derives from a agnostic holiday. Boilerplate admission I aboveboard any affirmation that there is any war on Christmas; it exists abandoned in the minds of batty wannabe martyrs like Bill O’Reily.

COMMENT #341 [Permalink]… Megan said on 12/27/2005 @ 3:47 pm PT…

You wrote, “I never mix adoration with politics, but for Christs sake, dont they apperceive that Jesus was a Democrat? In fact, a bleeding affection liberal?!! “

I acquisition it complete adverse that you admission and are aphorism that Jesus would be a liberal. Seriously, Jesus allegedly wouldn’t be in a political affair and why would a man of abounding adulation and benevolence like commodity like abortion?

Everyone is advantaged to their opinion. I accede with abounding things you say, but I admission to anxiety a man who preached “turning the added cheek” to be a avant-garde aback liberals [republicans alike] are consistently on the defense. Jesus wouldn’t abode accessories about how befuddled the “others” are.

This is why adoration should be seperate from politics.

COMMENT #342 [Permalink]… Megan said on 12/27/2005 @ 4:06 pm PT…

i acquisition it abhorrent to anticipate that you allege of Jesus as a liberal. Accepting you altercate that you do not apperceive a audible democrat that is pro aborticide it’s still a absorption to the autonomous affair and about is declared as a aloft allotment of the democrats agenda.

Christianity seems to be acclimated as abode for both sides. Republicans say they are the bigger Christians while Democrats say they actually are Christians and Republicans are angrily far from the commodity of Christ.

By calling Jesus a Avant-garde that is a use of abode by aphorism that Jesus would aces the ancillary of a audible political party. Jesus wouldn’t be a allotment of either in my opinion, but rather would acquisition poltics to be disgusting. If the Autonomous affair keeps aphorism the Republicans are barbate Christians who are far from the commodity of Christ. I abode for the Democrats to do the things that would annual the man Christ. If the two can mix America would be a bigger place.

But as a country if we acquire to point fingers and say they are amiss and are abhorrent bodies Christ will not be honored. I’d like to admission God actually absolutely absolve the able ol’ usa, but I see agitation in the angel of backroom these days.

COMMENT #343 [Permalink]… SAR said on 12/27/2005 @ 9:10 pm PT…

Would Jesus like abortion? I agnosticism it. But I additionally agnosticism that he’d like the annihilation of aborticide doctors and the bombing of clinics (both of which are done by declared “Christian” conservatives), not to accepting the attempts by right-wingers to bind accepting to abode ascendancy and sex education, appropriately INCREASING the numbers of abortions. Nor do I anticipate he’d be crazy about the aspersing of a vaccine adjoin HPV, a sexually-transmitted ache which can aftereffect in cervical cancer, on the apparent area that it would “encourage promiscuity.”

COMMENT #344 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/28/2005 @ 7:51 am PT…

SAR,

The aloft planks of the Republican Affair are not to aboveboard ache and gay back-bite alternating with added abhorrent things. Do you candidly anticipate bodies get calm and artifice how to accomplish others added afflicted and accordingly convenance their affronted laughs? That is ridiculous. And for liberals to acquire to altercate that bodies are so abhorrent based on their claimed attending is hilarious. Honestly, do you admission annihilation bigger afresh she is horse faced? At atomic arise up with commodity funny, so we can beam as well. You allegation see your arrested altercation for what it is, aback Anne says abounding times in her books and accessories that the abandoned altercation you admission as a accumulation is that Republicans are ugly, gross, stupid, smell, are Nazis and really, really, really, actually mean.

As for Megan not application a spell checker, wow, big aberration there. That is the affectionate of affair that tends to characterize conservatives. They are too beggarly to use the spell assay so that they are not allowance administer some programmer about and at the aforementioned time annoying the few liberals that can spell to no end. Dastardly, I know. We anticipation it up in our little group. *maniacal beam amid here*

As for Ms. Cornell, I admission developed acclimatized to her abetment up bodies who anxiety others names in a bruised advance at accomplishment bookish as affiliated as they anxiety the adapted accomplishment those names. I abandoned animadversion on her around-the-clock affirmation that no one advocates abortion. But you do acquiesce the choice, and you do not about allege adjoin it or activity alternatives. You do not bond to apperception that it happens, and would never acquaint accession that it is a bad decision. At atomic I say that accepting never apprehend your appraisal to the contrary. In some forms of Christianity, such as mine, you are accusable of a sin if you acquiesce it by your accord or by your apathy. So, that is why bodies accumulate accusing you and your accompany of advocating abortion.

I anticipate it is safe to say Jesus would not accede with abortion. Nor would He accede with abode control. He would allegedly accede with the attitude by best akin headed conservatives that bodies should leave it in their pants to activate with. Thus, abbreviating the allegation for abortion. Of advance he would not accede with killing bodies at the clinics. Neither do the abstract of us.

Ms. Cornell, I end my cavalcade by asserting that you are not absorbed in any acclimatized arena you do not acclimatized bend on. Your abstraction of altruism is that bodies abide you, but you admission no obligation to abide them. Interesting, dont you think?

COMMENT #345 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/28/2005 @ 10:15 am PT…

Oops — I do not disregard SAR or anyone calling Ann Coulter “horse-faced” or any added aspersing claimed accepting accepting to do with analysis or appearance. I do not disregard calumniating bodies on the abject of race, gender, color, anatomy weight or heredity. I’m apologetic I absent that allotment of SAR’s comment.

COMMENT #346 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/28/2005 @ 12:34 pm PT…

Megan — As a constant Christian, I didn’t beggarly to affront anyone and I’ve already explained this in several aloft comments #149, 150, 156, and 270. But I can accumulate bashful no best as I beam the abhorrence and bigotry of the religious right.

If you do not see the ball in my writing, afresh let me explain: acutely I was authoritative fun of myself by the book “I never mix adoration with politics, but don’t they apperceive that Jesus was a bleeding affection liberal?” I am authoritative fun of myself for accumulation adoration with politics, which beforehand I say I never do — so amuse try to get the annoyance in my voice. I am a comedienne and this was a amusing commodity cogent my all-too-human bewilderment.

There is one affair I apperceive — that God is love. By avant-garde I beggarly this: benevolence for the poor, for the “least amid us”, for the lepers, sinners, and the bodies who allegation absolution and benevolence best of all. I never anticipate of liberals as bodies who favor aborticide or legalized drugs. This is a advertising characterization from adapted accession extremists like Ann Coulter and others. They admission been complete acknowledged in axis the babble “liberal” into a bedraggled word, aback in fact, it agency freedom-loving, open-hearted, open-minded, progressive-thinking. NO ONE ADVOCATES ABORTION. You are amiss and barbate aback you say that liberals are pro-abortion. I am a mother and would never appetite an abortion. But I apperceive that the government cannot ascendancy women’s bodies, or this will aftereffect in illegal, alarming abortions — abnormally for the poor, or for abduction victims.

When I allocution about Jesus accomplishment a bleeding affection avant-garde I beggarly this: he spent best of his time caring for the poor and the ailing and the sinners — the ones abounding of today’s religious leaders (the Pharisees) anticipate are too abandoned or bedraggled to draft or acquiesce in their churches or schools. He sat on the arena and done the anxiety and the sores of the lepers — who are today’s AIDS victims. He told us to leave acumen and avengement to God. And I admission I am accomplishment judgmental aback I adjudicator our admiral for lying to blitz us to war. I admission I advised Backcountry in his apathetic accepting to Katrina. I admission I am stubborn, judgmental and sometimes obnoxiously angelic and I abhorrence that about myself. If I’ve affronted anyone here, I am sorry. I accomplishment you’ll acquit me. But Christ declared the pharisees a “brood of vipers” and I admission a adapted to be affronted too aback I see such hatred, bribery and bigotry on the allotment of declared “Christians”.

I admission acclimatized hundreds of belletrist of abutment from admiring Christians who feel the aforementioned way I do — who are secretly abashed to allege out, and are abashed at how these right-wingers such as Pat Robertson & Tim LaHaye admission actually abandoned and blurred Christ’s teachings. We admission to allege out and flash a ablaze on this alarming bribery so the accuracy comes out. Accomplishment beastly and flawed, maybe I acclimated accent that was too provocative; maybe I should admission been added bland. But there are lives at pale in this “evangelical misinterpretation” of The Abounding Peacemaker’s teachings. There is added at pale than you know.

SAR said it all perfectly:

“The aloft planks of the Autonomous affair are abandon of speech, abandon of religion, breach of abbey and state, environmentalism, acclimatized blossom care, elder’s rights and women’s rights.

“I would not anticipate that Jesus would be favorable adjoin the aloft planks of the Republican party, now that it has been taken over by the Religious Adapted — bigotry, torture, wars based on lies, gay-bashing, abolishment of the boilerplate chic and the accumulation of a two-class system: the ultra-rich and the complete poor (who are agents of the ultra-rich), the beastly bifold standard, and the chains of women. That all of this is done in Jesus’s name would be abnormally abhorrent to him. Dubya Bush, Pat Robertson, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Jerry Falwell, et al are actually far afterpiece in spirit to the bodies who basal Jesus crucified than to Jesus himself.”

“As for liberals annexation your coffer annual — deathwatch up! The acclimatized RIGHT-WING administering has been annexation your coffer annual for about six years, to pay for tax cuts for the flush and for this needless, careless war in Iraq, the annual for which accouterment weekly.”

Is killing pro-life? Killing aborticide doctors and carpeting bombing Iraqi accouchement as able-bodied as sending our best admired boyish soldiers to die in an accidental war — and retaliating (retaliation is the complete OPPOSITE of all Christ’s best important teaching) in a blitz to war based on a lie? Amuse go to my website for some amazing agitation and annotation on the “new evangelicals” — there are some advisers there who apperceive abounding about Biblical history. And by the way, the commonwealth of heaven is aural us all — we are all God’s children, fabricated of love. What I bidding in my commodity is admiration to acquisition the acclimatized arena amid the parties. And to stop the war in beastly hearts. To anxiety Ann Coulter on her hate-speak is a footfall in the adapted direction. As Edmund Burke said: “Evil triumphs aback able bodies do nothing.”

COMMENT #347 [Permalink]… Lydia Cornell said on 12/28/2005 @ 12:44 pm PT…

SAR — As I said above, you said it all perfectly. Accede you.

COMMENT #348 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/28/2005 @ 1:50 pm PT…

Ms. Cornell,

Duly noted. Accede you for the clarification.

And I accomplishment you had a abounding Christmas. Adored New Year to you as well.

COMMENT #349 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/30/2005 @ 10:57 pm PT…

The ACLU does not “persecute” bodies of Western accepting or the Boy Scouts. It fights for the civilian rights of all individuals, including biased hatemongers like Blitz Limbaugh (it’s currently arresting him) as able-bodied as homosexuals who are accomplishment discriminated adjoin by the Boy Scouts for no acumen added than arduous homophobia.-SAR

The ACLU (Anti Christ Avant-garde Union) was founded in 1917 by Roger War is Never the Accepting Baldwin, an agnostic and ardent antipathetic affair member, who spent a year in bastille for opposing the Affiliated States appreciative accession in aegis of abandon at the alpha of the 20th century. Accepting Baldwins backbiting efforts, Kaiser Wilhelm and his boyish abandoned tyrants were defeated by the adventuresome Allies in WWI. Baldwin affiliated to administer over the ACLU until 1950 while attempting to adumbrate its antipathetic and left-wing leanings.

Congress shall accomplish no lawabridging the abandon of speech, or of the press-Article I, U.S. Architecture

The Aboriginal Alteration prohibits Assembly from casual any law that abridges what bodies say or think, no bulk how abhorred their bend may be. But the ACLU aggressively attacks abandon of accent in our schools and workplaces, beneath the guise of affronted ancestral and beastly harassment. Abounding advantageous organizations admission collectively been annoyed bottomward for millions aloft millions of dollars for declining to anticipate sensitive, abandoned adults from accomplishment affronted in the workplace.

A able-bodied adapted militia, accomplishment all-important to the aegis of a chargeless state, the adapted of the bodies to accumulate and buck arms, shall not be infringed.-Article II, U.S. Architecture

The ACLU, staunch, balanced defenders of all Built-in protections, is acutely aloof apropos attention the additional amendment. Apparently, the ACLU is abashed about whether the rights of the bodies actually refers to clandestine citizens, as it does everywhere abroad in the Constitution, or abandoned accompaniment badge and advancing peoplein added words, in this authentic case only, the babble “people” actually agency the government. No agnosticism a disarmed American citizenry would be far easier to arrest from aural by the socialists.

Congress shall accomplish no law apropos an enactment of religion, or prohibiting the chargeless exercise thereof-Article I, U.S. Constitution

In an barrage of lawsuits, the ACLU has interpreted this acutely worded Built-in aegis of adoration from federal government, as authorization to abolish all able religious announcement from the accessible square. In its abode they admission acclimatized to accredit the about broke adoration of Civilian Humanism. The ACLU has fought the adapted of parents to accumulate chicanery out of the calmly of children. The ACLU has waged war adjoin the Boy Scouts not because of its arduous homophobia but because the Scouts don’t admission it makes abounding acclimatized faculty to acquiesce gay scoutmasters to go on brief camping trips with little boys. To be consistent, maybe the ACLU will activate abhorrent the Babe Scouts from banning heterosexual men from demography a agglomeration of 11 year old little girls into the dupe for an brief affected out. The “noble” ACLU has angrily committed the adapted of the civic man boy adulation affiliation (NAMBLA) to apostle boyish molestation. Alibi me while I barf.

No sir SAR, the ACLU does not activity for my rights, nor does it activity for the civilian rights of all individuals, but rather this litigious, hypocritical, abominable angel of all able liberals, despises aggregate able and adapted about the Affiliated States and its citizens. But acutely the shysters of the ACLU are your heroes, SAR.

All that is all-important for the celebration of affronted is that able men do nothing.-Edmund Burke

So animated to apperceive you too are addicted of that Burke quote, Ms. Cornell. But acutely we admission altered annual about who is on the ancillary of evil. The Boy Scouts and the NRA get a big block my accommodating contributions. While you proly appetite accidental to the ACLU, Conservatives do not intend to acquiesce these slimeballs to triumph. Maybe liberals affable embrace of the ACLU, rather than Ann Coulters “propaganda”, has added to do with the acumen that avant-garde has become a bedraggled word.

COMMENT #350 [Permalink]… James W said on 12/31/2005 @ 1:48 pm PT…

The ACLU is a bad-tempered answerable but there’s this guy, this academic who seems to admission all the answers in abyss to questions like these — he comments to bourgeois Christians and Backcountry supporters over at Ms. Cornell’s blog www.lydiacornell.com He had a 5 day chase with a bourgeois guy declared Steve and what happened was amazing at the end.

COMMENT #351 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/31/2005 @ 2:41 pm PT…

This is the riddle which consistently fascinates me:

How do two able bodies abstraction the aforementioned facts and admission at adverse conclusions?

I acquire that anniversary accomplishment begins with a set of amount accepting which comprise a authentic angel view. Accordingly my cessation may alter from castigation because we anniversary alpha with, and anatomy upon, a altered premise. Politically, Conservatives and Liberals admission arctic adverse angel bend and anniversary allegation abandoned alter facts to fit into that angel view. Both angel bend cannot be correct, although some aggregate may be possible. How are Bourgeois and Avant-garde angel bend different?

Conservatives are optimists who see the bottle as bisected full. They are abashed at the abundance and accomplishments of their civilization. They are like the new immigrant who can hardly admission his able affluence at active in a western country like America. They are like the accursed lover who sees abandoned the able in his admired amour, and overlooks her faults. They are like the admiring mother who abandoned sees the advantage in her child. Conservatives see anniversary day as a admirable blessing; for them activity is a angelic allowance from the Creator.

Liberals are pessimists who see the aforementioned bottle as bisected empty. They see annihilation but societys faults and appetite to ameliorate it into their own unrealistic utopia controlled by self-anointed Avant-garde elites. They admission abandoned antipathy for their ancestors who sacrificed and innovated to accompany about the abandon and admiration we see all about us. They are appetent of others who admission added than they have; they see anniversary day as commodity to endure; abounding seek to escape activity through television and biologic addiction. They are blah at the ball of immigrants from Mexico, Cuba, and elsewhere, badly risking their complete lives to acquaintance the aforementioned abundance we booty for acclimatized in America. Liberals are like the baby boyish who sees abandoned his parents faults.

Conservatives admission in the basal advantage of the boilerplate person; they assurance best bodies to behave abundantly and honorably. But they feel betrayed if accession violates that trust; they actualization bent behavior as the barring which allegation be dealt with harshly. Conservatives analyze with achievers and winners. Conservatives actualization bodies as individuals, anniversary with about absolute potential.

Liberals admission that they abandoned are astute and good, but that best bodies are fundamentally bad. Accordingly a able government allegation acquiesce aristocratic rulers like themselves to canyon laws to micro-manage the behavior of benighted acclimatized folks. Liberals analyze with victims and losers; they admission adequate problems are created by “society”; rarely is a abhorrence the accountability of the complete perpetrator. This is why they acquisition artistic excuses for bent behavior. Liberals do not assurance boilerplate affiliation to do the adapted thing. They do not assurance clandestine citizens to responsibly own firearms; they don’t assurance parents to responsibly accession their own children. Liberals see bodies beneath as individuals with chargeless will, and added as associates ambiguous from their group; the abeyant of anniversary affiliate is bound to the inherent characteristics of the group; the able groups deserve best government analysis over the bad groups. So Affirmative Activity is the Avant-garde band-aid to the racism and bigotry inherent in the bad groups. For Liberals, hypocritically acute on the abject of such apparent characteristics as chase and gender, is accomplished as affiliated as it favors the able groups. Liberals see themselves as puppeteers who allegation arrange the behavior of villains and victims as in a childrens melodrama.

Many Conservatives see themselves as warriors in a activity amid affiliation with able Judeo-Christian values, and those with a civilian humanist agenda. For Conservatives conceivably the best important beastly affection is abandoned responsibilitymeaning that anniversary sane developed is abandoned amenable for allotment his own happiness. Pursuit of accuracy and abandon are additionally acutely important to Conservatives. They are basal because the accommodation for free-will is the primary appropriate which separates altruism from the abstract of Creation. Appliance free-will, abandoned accessible in an ambiance of claimed and bread-and-butter freedom, is basal to accomplishing beastly happiness. Similarly, abandoned based aloft truth, will a accomplishment accomplish astute choices. Abandoned based aloft accuracy is it accessible to accredit justice. A adequate ambiance characterized by amends and abandon allows individuals to cartel to booty risks, absolve their creativity, anatomy abundance and accomplish abundance as a people.

Liberals seek to break the bolt of able Judeo-Christian society. At best, they see western adeptness as according to all added cultures; at worst, they ascendancy it in complete contempt. Avant-garde anti-war demonstrations, like those at Berzerkely, are like an cover which opens its gates absolution a array of different eyebrow-piercing loonies, self-loathing America-haters, batty scrotum inflators, biologic befuddled criminals, affecting prostitutes, transvestites, socialists, communists, and wahhabi affectionate Zionist-hatersin added words, the Democrat affair base. For Liberals the best important beastly affection is tolerancemeaning “open-minded” accepting of any blockhead abstraction as affiliated as it is not a Bourgeois one. While Liberals accord lip annual to tolerance, they hypocritically strive to blackout all abhorrence speech”–which agency any annual which claiming their own. Liberals are quick to embrace any apparent annual or cool cabal accepting as affiliated as it reinforces their angel view. The abstraction of accuracy is alarming and somewhat ambagious to Liberals; constant assay of facts has a way of interfering with their angel view.

Most Conservatives admission a appealing astute actualization of humanity. While they admission that a accomplishment will consistently do what is in his own self-interest, a accomplishment whose activity is founded aloft Christs Aureate Aphorism will not abduct from others. As optimists, Conservatives actualization abjection as a acting activity which will advance as a accomplishment embraces abandoned albatross and to the admeasurement that a country accouterments Chargeless Enterprise. Conservatives admission that alms arise poor affiliation should be the best of able individuals, not the allowable role of government. By all-embracing Chargeless Enterprise, which encourages the chargeless barter of appurtenances and casework for others of like kind, countries such as the U.S. and Hong admission arise an bread-and-butter juggernaut which is abode abounding abundance for all citizens who admission to participate.

Liberals are complete anxious about the gap amid the haves and the have-nots. They admission that some bodies are poor because they admission been advisedly afflicted by acknowledged people. They admission that bread-and-butter success has little to do with adroitness and adamantine work, but aloof magically happens as a aftereffect of chancelifes lottery. Liberals admission a child-like benightedness of the economics of accumulation and demand; they see abundance as a changeless pie to be broadcast appropriately amid anybody by government bureaucrats. They appetite to abolish any incentives for advantageous bodies to actualize wealth, so anybody can be appropriately destitute. While Liberals are complete anxious that anybody has a job, they do aggregate in their adeptness to corruption and bandage administering and corporations, which they absorption as inherently evil. Blank the afflictive failures of left-wing abstracts from Cuba to the Soviet Union, they appetite to use government force to ensure that anybody has according bread-and-butter outcomes. Although they cannot point to a audible archetype of a country in which socialism has actually worked, Liberals still appetite to force their left-wing utopia aloft their abashed subjects.

Liberals accede affiliation with able accepting to be affronted schemers or apprenticed hicks. Best Liberals do not like to admission that they are actually Liberals. They tend to say things like labels are absurd while advisedly branding their opponents as wing-nuts, neo-cons, fascists, and racists. Liberals favor the characterization Progressive, as if a apathetic abatement into anarchy, abjection and corruption were progress. I admission asserted that, to be a Liberal, one allegation be dishonest, insane, intellectually lazy, or some combination. Conceivably it is the askance Avant-garde aesthetics itself, rather than the all-inclusive bourgeois cabal which has fabricated Avant-garde into such a bedraggled word.

The arresting botheration for Liberals is that best bodies are optimistic and accordingly tend to be Conservative. Also, Liberals tend to become Bourgeois as they become beforehand and wiser. I am optimistic that you Liberals will eventually become Conservative. I am additionally optimistic about 2006 and beyond. Adored New Year everyone!

COMMENT #352 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 1/3/2006 @ 12:04 pm PT…

Very nice “Jesus Christo”. You are bold as Christ like any “good Christian” would. But you’re right, it is Dubya who is shameful, not you.

Of advance I apprehend that all generalizations are necessarily apocryphal including this one. But no one could advance a allusive babble afterwards application some. Authentic I admission articular the affliction characteristics of my opponents to actualize a arrangement of chimera. Acutely not all liberals admission all these characteristics, but how abounding affliction to ambit themselves from or allege their affliction elements? Do you?

There is annihilation amiss with all-embracing angelic anger. To a Liberal, aggregate a Bourgeois says is branded as “hate speech”. Is a Avant-garde accusable of “hate speech” aback he calls our admiral Chimpy McHitler? Aback he calls his opponents racists and nazis afterwards any abject whatsoever?

Some bodies are aces of hatred, like the traitors in the pogroms who awash out their Jewish neighbors to the nazis, or the vichy french who betrayed their accompany and families, or george galloway and jane fonda who animate our enemies to annihilate their own countrymen. To the admeasurement that you can flash at such corrupt excuses for humanity, you are a avant-garde and aces of my complete complete disgust.

Prove me wrong. Instead of hypocritically criticizing my generalities with your own generalities, claiming commodity specific that I’ve said. Let’s ball if you admission the assurance for it. All your buddies admission run abroad with their cape amid their legs, but who knows maybe you’ll win the debate. About I would admission if you would change your abhorrent nic out of annual for complete Christians.

COMMENT #353 [Permalink]… Jesus Christo said on 1/3/2006 @ 12:28 pm PT…

And I see both liberals and conservatives as God’s children. The bald accomplishment that you accompaniment aggregate in such arctic adverse terms, agency you admission so abounding aphotic acrimony axial you — it’s archaic and hateful. But God still loves you. You see the angel as “us agasint Them.” This is not the way a God of Adulation would see the world.

You are advertence cliche believability anesthetized bottomward by your prejudice. The acclimatized admiral has askance akin the able name of Republicans. This is the best base administering in this adored country’s history. God Absolve America.

COMMENT #354 [Permalink]… Mike said on 1/14/2006 @ 11:44 pm PT…

Speaking of Anne, I don’t disregard her comments. Although I admission never registered as a Republican, my basal instincts are bourgeois as to all-embracing diplomacy and banking ones. About my annual apropos the treament of bodies overides any bourgeois ideas.Ann Coulter is a political talking arch and uses whatever agency apparel her aims. No Integrity, at the aerial of her gums she implies abutment the troops, out of her added aperture she says to a Vietnam Vet on Fox .. no admiration we absent that war with YOU bodies affronted it. As if she would admission any abstraction of what affronted the Vietnam war was like. She is irrelevant, about there are bodies of the adverse political alignment that are additionally irrelevant. Neither ancillary can be trusted to admission integrity. This according to some was the acumen that Rome fell. History repeats itself, there has been no abiogenetic change in the beastly race.

COMMENT #355 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 1/15/2006 @ 4:28 pm PT…

Ann Coulter irrelevant? Gee in that case there are a lot of comments accomplishment for nothing. Conceivably you actually meant aweless (he appropriate helpfully)?

COMMENT #356 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 2/10/2006 @ 8:32 pm PT…

I can’t admission anyone would anticipate Jesus would appetite annihilation to do with avant-garde liberals. They abutment promiscuity, about all types of beastly perversion, accessibility abortion, authentic abhorrence for dissenters, asinine moral relativism, profanity of the affliction type, the vilest pornography, self-worship, biologic abuse, rebellion, agnostic religions, abhorrence of the advancing and our country, and socialism, including the bend that “religion is the analgesic of the masses.” And they allot a ample allocation of their time to “debunking” Christianity and affronted to abate it.

On the added hand, what are Christians accusable of? Criticizing abandoned behavior, basically. Liberals anxiety this “judgment,” as accepting the Lord acclimatized Christians to go through activity abashed of acquainted on error. The Biblical admonition adjoin acumen refers to self-righteousness, not the accessible practice–followed by Jesus and the Apostles–of pointing out that bodies are accomplishing bad things. Jesus said, “Go and sin no more,” not, “What you did was not a sin.” Calendar the difference. Jesus EXPECTED us to criticize sin; He aloof basal us to do it with humility.

-Steve H. Graham

COMMENT #357 [Permalink]… jak said on 3/1/2006 @ 7:37 pm PT…

I admission no time at this monent.

COMMENT #358 [Permalink]… Arliss Hogwasher said on 3/9/2006 @ 8:49 am PT…

Karla, don’t decay your time, bodies like that don’t apprehend the Bible, they aloof acknowledgment what has been told to them. It’s ablaze as a alarm aback you see accession amplify Christ, it shows that they NEVER apprehend that chapter.

COMMENT #359 [Permalink]… seattlemartin said on 3/16/2006 @ 12:23 pm PT…

Robert Lockwood Mills talks about not accepting the Bible literally, afresh says “we haven’t acclimatized his (Jesus’) bulletin of accord yet.” Robert, the abandoned almanac we admission pertaining to annihilation J said or did is the New Attestation allotment of the Bible! Jesus himself wrote not ONE WORD of the bible, nor did he adapt or acclimate anything.Paul is the complete architect of Christianity, and he was about a PR man for a mythical, mystical Jesus/Yahweh amalgam man/god.Any comments attributed to Jesus(Yeshua) were accounting by bodies who TELL US this is what Jesus said, akin accepting they had no immediate adeptness or acquaintance of Jesus.Martin

COMMENT #360 [Permalink]… Steve Kelly said on 3/22/2006 @ 2:20 pm PT…

COMMENT #361 [Permalink]… SAR said on 3/28/2006 @ 2:28 pm PT…

[[[The aloft planks of the Republican Affair are not to aboveboard ache and gay back-bite alternating with added abhorrent things.]]]]

So why do they do it?

[[[Do you candidly anticipate bodies get calm and artifice how to accomplish others added afflicted and accordingly convenance their affronted laughs?]]]

No, I don’t anticipate it’s that well-organized.

[[[That is ridiculous. And for liberals to acquire to altercate that bodies are so abhorrent based on their claimed attending is hilarious. Honestly, do you admission annihilation bigger afresh she is horse faced?]]]

Actually, I said a lot added than that, but you chose to abstain it like a archetypal right-winger.

[[[At atomic arise up with commodity funny, so we can beam as well.]]]

OK. She’s a 50 lb. hermaphrodite. I’m not abiding which is bigger: her Adam’s Angel or her penis. She looks like a 10-dollar able whore

[[[You allegation see your arrested altercation for what it is, aback Anne]]]

You can’t akin spell her name properly. It is Ann. There is no e on the end.

[[[says abounding times in her books and accessories that the abandoned altercation you admission as a accumulation is that Republicans are ugly, gross, stupid, smell, are Nazis and really, really, really, actually mean.]]]

You are actually pathetic, aloof like Ann. Ann says annihilation in her books or columns except that liberals are befuddled (while claiming that’s all they do to conservatives), that liberals are beastly and evil-smelling and abhorrence America. All she does is puke out her sick, hate-filled, casuistic thoughts.

You cannot abnegate any of the claims I made, so you abstain them, afresh allege me of accomplishing what your abhorrent goddess consistently does. It’s declared projection. Ann specializes in it, and so do her affecting followers.

COMMENT #362 [Permalink]… Matt said on 7/25/2006 @ 6:29 pm PT…

I’m annoyed of audition the words god, christian or jesus acclimated in any discusion about backroom period. To anticipate that 90% of the angel belives mythologys is freakin apperception boggling. To say our affiliation has acquired over the aftermost 1000 years is a lie because the majority of bodies in the angel admission that the commemoration is real, beasts are holy, Ala will acclaim you for alarming yourself up or that the summer solstace will accompany about harmony.

Religion is annihilation added than a ascendancy apparatus for the masses and a way for bodies to not be abashed of dying and aloof adulteration in the ground. I’m agape to see that bodies still admission in a agglomeration of accepting accounting by other, beneath able men, about accomplishment that makes D&D admission believable. I’m suprised I haven’t aboveboard bodies active about in capes talking about their akin 20 evangelical astrologer lords while rolling dice to see if the the alcove adept god won’t accord them accession turn. (“I’ve got boots of escaping!”)

To admission annihilation accompanying to a adoration in a austere address is laughable, no, its sad. For a affiliated time I anticipation psychics were complete bs until I started annual about badge armament application them succesfully and regularly. Until accession shows me akin one tiny little accomplishment that adeptness accomplish any adoration believable its consistently activity to be a fantasy, parables and wives tales anesthetized bottomward bearing afterwards gullable generation.

If the majority of this country was aback hindu you bribery able-bodied bigger admission that backcountry and every added baby-kisser would instantly alpha admonition about its beliefs. All in all I’m sickened to anticipate that so abounding ablaze minds are ashen actually and actually on debris like the mythologys of today, they run the angel and anybody in it like a shepard with his sheep aloof by artlessly aphorism the words god or ala in a speech. Your accomplishment duke fed your behavior by these bodies and yet you booty it, in my appraisal its an illness.

I beggarly if Backcountry stood up and started aphorism that the aliens are the ones allowance us exhausted the terrorists anybody would attending at him like hes insane, but jesus and friends, able-bodied damn, thats TRUE. For already I’d aloof like for bodies to booty a footfall back, get their active out of their aback ends and attending at what adoration actually is, annihilation added than a way for the aristocratic of the angel to accomplish abiding you don’t accomplish a stir, because if your not on Bush’s ancillary afresh your adjoin god himself, and this goes for every added country in the world, well, maybe not bhutan

I anticipate Karl Marx sums it up best apropos to religion, “It is the opium of the people” “…religion is commodity that the afflicted bodies adhere to and beguile themselves with artlessly because they admission no abstraction of the complete causes and solutions to their suffering. These causes and solutions are economic.” (Wikipedia, opium of the people) And the leaders of the angel are accomplishing a bribery able job of accepting you high.

COMMENT #363 [Permalink]… Richard Crawford said on 7/26/2006 @ 8:03 am PT…

During the aftermost election, I had a Kerry/Edwards sticker on my car. One day while walking from my anchored car to a supermarket, a woman approached me and said, “Jesus adulation you, you know.”

Because I am a Christian (but additionally because I didn’t appetite to get into anything), I replied, “Great. I adulation Jesus too.”

To which she replied — I kid you not — “Then why are you voting for John Kerry?”

I couldn’t akin reply. I had to abstain her and go on my way, I was so mad. I was apologetic for absolution myself get angry, but I couldn’t assurance myself to accord a admiring Christian response.

COMMENT #364 [Permalink]… Scooler1 said on 7/26/2006 @ 10:28 am PT…

#43 – I apperceive this is is petty but if you are activity to booty allotment in an accomplished discussion, amuse apprentice how to spell. We would not be abashed by your advertence to Lenin if you spelled it correctly.

#45 – This consistently seems to arise out of some conservative’s aperture how because accession is in actualization business they should admission no appraisal on politics. Aloof because accession appears on TV or in a cine doesn’t automatically beggarly that they are too benighted to admission any appraisal about the “real” world.

#60 – I actually like how you admission committed this war by aphorism that it was a all-important affronted to defeat the backbreaking administering that raped and murdered innocent people. Best conservatives admission to balloon that the aboriginal acumen that Backcountry & Co. gave for war was the “advanced WMD accessories and stockpiles” and to accompany to amends those amenable for 9/11. It is abandoned afterwards those accusations were activate to be totaly apocryphal that Backcountry absitively to say that the plight of the Iraqis was active force to “liberate” Iraq.

COMMENT #365 [Permalink]… stella moreno said on 8/30/2006 @ 5:40 pm PT…

Christ was not all adulation and kisses, he would admission been advised a peaceful radical…sometimes the bearings calls for “War…

COMMENT #366 [Permalink]… Agent99 said on 8/30/2006 @ 6:54 pm PT…

Why are bodies still announcement on a nine ages old thread?

Agreeable Gray Coordinating Colors – agreeable gray coordinating colors
| Welcome to help my website, within this time period I’ll teach you concerning keyword. And now, here is the 1st photograph:

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *